Itemization for the Imperial City DLC & Base-Game Patch

Aunatar · July 2015

RazzPitazz wrote: »

Glass armor. Sooooo.... there are 34 items you can craft, 10 motif fragments each, making 340 fragments. You can get a maximum of three fragments per day until you finish woodworking 50 days later, then are limited to two per day. The earliest anyone can possibly get the whole book without the crown store is 145 days after launch, 5 months later.
I don't want to see the glass motif in the crown store any sooner than that.

I think they will be like the Dwemer style.. at least I hope so!

Anlaemar · July 2015

Only thing I cared about was the mention that new AND existing dungeons will now scale up to V15 and V16, which means the undaunted sets won't be forgotten and will still remain viable (if not meta).

I have some Spindle/vCoA farming ahead of me.

TagaParti · July 2015

nice..

Dagoth_Rac · July 2015

Will Trials and VDSA be moved up to VR16? If there is no longer any endgame content for large groups, that is going to disappoint a lot of people. Heck, getting 12 people to do AA and HRC now is difficult because they are not endgame. If they become 4 levels below endgame, forget about it. AA and HRC will become ghost towns. And while VDSA is for small groups, it is unique and well-liked content and I think people will be sad to see it no longer be endgame.

Faulgor · July 2015

ckbud wrote: »

What about DSA/VDSA? Can we scale this up to VR15/16 and get VR15/16 drops from this now?

FooWasHere wrote: »

There has been speculation in, and a lot of us were hoping for, an update of the (since 1.6) obsolete trials sets. Sets like the Wise Mage e.g. But I take it that no other sets than the mentioned 11 PvP reward sets gets an update in the IC patch. Can you confirm this @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ?
-Foo

Forget it guys, Craglorn is finished. Trials and DSA will not scale with Update 7, any old gear is obsolete with VR16. Crafting, 4-man dungeons and IC/PvP are the only ways to get endgame gear now.

SkylarkAU · July 2015

Will the new gear be in the PTS?

r.jan_emailb16_ESO · July 2015

SkylarkAU wrote: »

Will the new gear be in the PTS?

Yes, all the content will be there.

wraith808 · July 2015

KerinKor wrote: »

Yes, you can craft VR15 and VR16 gear—this includes existing craftable items, and the three new craftable sets. You can get the new materials needed to craft VR15 and VR16 items from the Tel Var merchants. You also have a chance to get them any time you deconstruct a VR15 or VR16 item.

So, no non-PVP way to obtain VR15/16 crafting mats, did I read that right?

No, you didn't.

Can I craft VR15 and VR16 gear? If so, how/where do I get the new materials?
Yes, you can craft VR15 and VR16 gear—this includes existing craftable items, and the three new craftable sets. You can get the new materials needed to craft VR15 and VR16 items from the Tel Var merchants. You also have a chance to get them any time you deconstruct a VR15 or VR16 item.

What are all the ways I can get VR15 and VR16 gear?
There are a variety of ways you can obtain VR15 and VR16 equipment, from crafting to PVE to PVP. Here are all the places and ways you can obtain VR15 and VR16 gear:
Bosses and mini-bosses in existing dungeons that are scaled-up to VR15 or VR16
Monsters in the Imperial City
Monsters in the new dungeons (Imperial City Prison and White-Gold Tower)
Tel Var merchants
Crafting
VR15 and VR16 versions of existing craftable items
Three new sets created at the special crafting stations in the Imperial City
Trophy Vaults in the Imperial City
Cyrodiil Rewards for the Worthy (improved versions of 11 existing sets)
VR15 and VR16 Undaunted pledges (new and existing dungeons)

Darkonflare15 · July 2015

wraith808 wrote: »

KerinKor wrote: »

Yes, you can craft VR15 and VR16 gear—this includes existing craftable items, and the three new craftable sets. You can get the new materials needed to craft VR15 and VR16 items from the Tel Var merchants. You also have a chance to get them any time you deconstruct a VR15 or VR16 item.

So, no non-PVP way to obtain VR15/16 crafting mats, did I read that right?

No, you didn't.

Can I craft VR15 and VR16 gear? If so, how/where do I get the new materials?
Yes, you can craft VR15 and VR16 gear—this includes existing craftable items, and the three new craftable sets. You can get the new materials needed to craft VR15 and VR16 items from the Tel Var merchants. You also have a chance to get them any time you deconstruct a VR15 or VR16 item.

What are all the ways I can get VR15 and VR16 gear?
There are a variety of ways you can obtain VR15 and VR16 equipment, from crafting to PVE to PVP. Here are all the places and ways you can obtain VR15 and VR16 gear:
Bosses and mini-bosses in existing dungeons that are scaled-up to VR15 or VR16
Monsters in the Imperial City
Monsters in the new dungeons (Imperial City Prison and White-Gold Tower)
Tel Var merchants
Crafting
VR15 and VR16 versions of existing craftable items
Three new sets created at the special crafting stations in the Imperial City
Trophy Vaults in the Imperial City
Cyrodiil Rewards for the Worthy (improved versions of 11 existing sets)
VR15 and VR16 Undaunted pledges (new and existing dungeons)

I just do not understand why people cannot read properly or read between the lines. Most of this information was stated since last eso live and people still try confuse other people by rumor mongering. It is just sad.

lifefrombelowb14_ESO · July 2015

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Will the elite PVP vendors be getting new items with the release of the Imperial City base-game patch?
No, but we did significantly reduce the AP cost of Grand Soul Gems.

Please tell me this is a troll. This is a troll right? To a kind of serious question?

Docmandu · July 2015

Do I understand it correctly that the "PVP Expansion" adds 2 new monster helm sets that are only obtainable by running PvE Dungeons ad nauseum?! Monster sets which are pretty powerful in PvP and almost a must have if they are anything like the previous ones.

Attorneyatlawl · July 2015

Darkonflare15 wrote: »

wraith808 wrote: »

KerinKor wrote: »

Yes, you can craft VR15 and VR16 gear—this includes existing craftable items, and the three new craftable sets. You can get the new materials needed to craft VR15 and VR16 items from the Tel Var merchants. You also have a chance to get them any time you deconstruct a VR15 or VR16 item.

So, no non-PVP way to obtain VR15/16 crafting mats, did I read that right?

No, you didn't.

Can I craft VR15 and VR16 gear? If so, how/where do I get the new materials?
Yes, you can craft VR15 and VR16 gear—this includes existing craftable items, and the three new craftable sets. You can get the new materials needed to craft VR15 and VR16 items from the Tel Var merchants. You also have a chance to get them any time you deconstruct a VR15 or VR16 item.

What are all the ways I can get VR15 and VR16 gear?
There are a variety of ways you can obtain VR15 and VR16 equipment, from crafting to PVE to PVP. Here are all the places and ways you can obtain VR15 and VR16 gear:
Bosses and mini-bosses in existing dungeons that are scaled-up to VR15 or VR16
Monsters in the Imperial City
Monsters in the new dungeons (Imperial City Prison and White-Gold Tower)
Tel Var merchants
Crafting
VR15 and VR16 versions of existing craftable items
Three new sets created at the special crafting stations in the Imperial City
Trophy Vaults in the Imperial City
Cyrodiil Rewards for the Worthy (improved versions of 11 existing sets)
VR15 and VR16 Undaunted pledges (new and existing dungeons)

I just do not understand why people cannot read properly or read between the lines. Most of this information was stated since last eso live and people still try confuse other people by rumor mongering. It is just sad.

I agree, and I've noticed it's gotten worse across most forum types in the last few years. Five years ago it was starting to become more common, ten it wasn't very normal to see and resulted in people being laughably dismissed. Nowadays it seems unusual if there isn't some weird and strange interpretation of facts that leads to rumors being spread around with no basis in reality on game forums, tech forums, you name it. It's sad, indeed

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Attorneyatlawl · July 2015

Will drops such as Trials and Veteran Dungeon sets such as Stygian and Thorn come in VR16 form after the new patch? Or are only the primary sets like monster helmets being updated?

Currently, VR12 is the maximum for ones like Relics of the Physician, Ansur... VR14 would have been nice (hypothetical pictured, but it does not exist in-game currently), but VR16 would be a sizable change from VR12 so I'm hoping it got updated

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Godthab · July 2015

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Currently, VR12 is the maximum for ones like Relics of the Physician, Ansur... VR14 would have been nice (hypothetical pictured, but it does not exist in-game currently), but VR16 would be a sizable change from VR12 so I'm hoping it got updated ?

Totally agree with Attorney. Not only RoP and Ansur, but also those ones like Aether or Yokeda from AA/HRC and those ones you get in SO - it would be pretty nice if ZoS could consider to raise the max lvl of those gears up to VR16 along with the Imperial City major update or the patches after that.

jcollinson10preub18_ESO · July 2015

Can I craft VR15 and VR16 gear? If so, how/where do I get the new materials?
Yes, you can craft VR15 and VR16 gear—this includes existing craftable items, and the three new craftable sets. You can get the new materials needed to craft VR15 and VR16 items from the Tel Var merchants. You also have a chance to get them any time you deconstruct a VR15 or VR16 item.

So your basically saying screw crafting nodes in the new update?

Attorneyatlawl · July 2015

Godthab wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Currently, VR12 is the maximum for ones like Relics of the Physician, Ansur... VR14 would have been nice (hypothetical pictured, but it does not exist in-game currently), but VR16 would be a sizable change from VR12 so I'm hoping it got updated ?

Totally agree with Attorney. Not only RoP and Ansur, but also those ones like Aether or Yokeda from AA/HRC and those ones you get in SO - it would be pretty nice if ZoS could consider to raise the max lvl of those gears up to VR16 along with the Imperial City major update or the patches after that.

Definitely, I didn't mean to imply that I only meant a specific few of those sets. I'm hoping they took into account, and did update (or will by the time the Imperial City goes live) the drop bind on equip item sets and all of the bind on pickup ones in Trials, vDSA, and Vet Dungeons to have VR16 ones available.

OrphanHelgen · July 2015

Info about masters weapons pls.
If I have a vr13 masters weapon, will that in my inventory automaticly become vr15? and the vr14 be vr16?. Or do we have to farm DSA over again?

lolo_01b16_ESO · July 2015

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

Info about masters weapons pls.
If I have a vr13 masters weapon, will that in my inventory automaticly become vr15? and the vr14 be vr16?. Or do we have to farm DSA over again?

I's assume they won't automaticly level up since no weapon did that when they added v12 and v14 to the game. Question is if v16 master weapons will exist at all.

Attorneyatlawl · July 2015

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

Info about masters weapons pls.
If I have a vr13 masters weapon, will that in my inventory automaticly become vr15? and the vr14 be vr16?. Or do we have to farm DSA over again?

I's assume they won't automaticly level up since no weapon did that when they added v12 and v14 to the game. Question is if v16 master weapons will exist at all.

Yeah, there's no reason to expect they should or would scale from your packs

, but I am hoping vr16 ones can be earned along with the veteran dungeon sets and trials drops.

OrphanHelgen · July 2015

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

Info about masters weapons pls.
If I have a vr13 masters weapon, will that in my inventory automaticly become vr15? and the vr14 be vr16?. Or do we have to farm DSA over again?

I's assume they won't automaticly level up since no weapon did that when they added v12 and v14 to the game. Question is if v16 master weapons will exist at all.

Yeah, there's no reason to expect they should or would scale from your packs , but I am hoping vr16 ones can be earned along with the veteran dungeon sets and trials drops.

Finally more bank space, right?

Attorneyatlawl · July 2015

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

Info about masters weapons pls.
If I have a vr13 masters weapon, will that in my inventory automaticly become vr15? and the vr14 be vr16?. Or do we have to farm DSA over again?

I's assume they won't automaticly level up since no weapon did that when they added v12 and v14 to the game. Question is if v16 master weapons will exist at all.

Yeah, there's no reason to expect they should or would scale from your packs , but I am hoping vr16 ones can be earned along with the veteran dungeon sets and trials drops.

Finally more bank space, right?

I broke down and bought a bunch of copies on that $12 sale from Greenmangaming the other day. I'm shameless.

Storage should never be an issue for me again other than holding bind on pickup or bound gear on my account

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Pyr0xyrecuprotite · July 2015

Here's a thought... for the crafters out there, if we need a new skill rank in Wood/metal/cloth crafting to craft the new v15/16 gear... will top level crafting writs then require you to use the new mats? And where will you deliver those writs...?
We'll have to wait and see how it works when on the PTS...

Francis_Toliver · July 2015

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

Info about masters weapons pls.
If I have a vr13 masters weapon, will that in my inventory automaticly become vr15? and the vr14 be vr16?. Or do we have to farm DSA over again?

You will have to farm DSA to get the higher level items. Why wouldn't you? What make you think that your current items ought to be boosted simply because the game is continuing to grow? Go out there and get you some of those newer higher level stuff! Its supposed to be fun, not static.

King Bozo · July 2015

So there really is no point for ap when buying pvp bags with ap.

Nifty2g · July 2015

so when exactly are they going to tell us, kinda sucks for those saving up and stuff

BalgusFlinn · July 2015

Faulgor wrote: »

ckbud wrote: »

What about DSA/VDSA? Can we scale this up to VR15/16 and get VR15/16 drops from this now?

FooWasHere wrote: »

There has been speculation in, and a lot of us were hoping for, an update of the (since 1.6) obsolete trials sets. Sets like the Wise Mage e.g. But I take it that no other sets than the mentioned 11 PvP reward sets gets an update in the IC patch. Can you confirm this @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ?
-Foo

Forget it guys, Craglorn is finished. Trials and DSA will not scale with Update 7, any old gear is obsolete with VR16. Crafting, 4-man dungeons and IC/PvP are the only ways to get endgame gear now.[/quoteVR15 and VR16 Undaunted pledges (new and existing dungeons)

VR15 and VR16 Undaunted pledges (new and existing dungeons
trials will scale

Docmandu · July 2015

Docmandu wrote: »

Do I understand it correctly that the "PVP Expansion" adds 2 new monster helm sets that are only obtainable by running PvE Dungeons ad nauseum?! Monster sets which are pretty powerful in PvP and almost a must have if they are anything like the previous ones.

So what's the deal with the monster sets? Are these only available through laborious PvE?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

MissBizz · July 2015

davidbarryb16_ESO wrote: »

Here's a thought... for the crafters out there, if we need a new skill rank in Wood/metal/cloth crafting to craft the new v15/16 gear... will top level crafting writs then require you to use the new mats? And where will you deliver those writs...?
We'll have to wait and see how it works when on the PTS...

@davidbarryb16_ESO I thought about that, not sure. It is something I'll be checking out on the PTS, that's for sure.

Pyr0xyrecuprotite · July 2015

Docmandu wrote: »

So what's the deal with the monster sets? Are these only available through laborious PvE?

"Monster sets" refers to the special 2-piece head and shoulder sets that are only available from the 4P group dungeons in Vet mode - helms as rare drops from the final boss (usually), and shoulders from the Undaunted pledge gold key chest.
Basically we are all going to have to farm both the two new PvE dungeons (if we want the new helms) and/or old vet dungeons (ideally scaled to v16), to try get new versions of the helms and gold keys for the upgraded (vr16) and two new shoulder pieces. You might be lucky and get the set that you want on your first run though..

MrGhosty · July 2015

RazzPitazz wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

RazzPitazz wrote: »

Glass armor. Sooooo.... there are 34 items you can craft, 10 motif fragments each, making 340 fragments. You can get a maximum of three fragments per day until you finish woodworking 50 days later, then are limited to two per day. The earliest anyone can possibly get the whole book without the crown store is 145 days after launch, 5 months later.
I don't want to see the glass motif in the crown store any sooner than that.

This will probably work like the Dwemer chapters, so you have 15 chapters instead of 34.

Possibly, and hopefully so.

MrGhosty wrote: »

RazzPitazz wrote: »

Glass armor. Sooooo.... there are 34 items you can craft, 10 motif fragments each, making 340 fragments. You can get a maximum of three fragments per day until you finish woodworking 50 days later, then are limited to two per day. The earliest anyone can possibly get the whole book without the crown store is 145 days after launch, 5 months later.
I don't want to see the glass motif in the crown store any sooner than that.

I would be utterly shocked if they didn't add the glass motif book into the crown store almost immediately tbh, their whole point with this is to make the slog to get the finished product complicated enough that it encourages players to just buy the motif from the crown store.

What do you mean by finishing woodworking?

The woodworKing items are the fewest of the crafting skills with only 6 items made of wood. If you were to receive a Fragment everyday through the woodworking wit, this is the set that would finished first.

Ah yeah! The phrasing threw me off for a minute. I hadn't thought of that. Cheers!