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Disenchanted with Enchanting

Tholian1
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Title pretty much says it all. After devoting the time and many skill points to enchanting, there seems to be very little reward. The runes needed to make useful enchantments, beyond the basic glyphs that can be purchased from an NPC vendor, are just too rare to justify pouring so many points into the skill tree. I thought about quitting enchant altogether and just buying the glyphs I need, but after going to every guild trader, I couldn't even find them for sale. Not even the runes could be found.

So far, for me, enchanting is nothing but a waste of skill points. Thoughts?
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  • Zahne
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    You can buy purple/gold glyphs from NPC vendors?
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  • Tholian1
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    I didn't say you could buy purple or gold from NPC vendor.
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  • Nestor
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    Tholian1 wrote: »

    So far, for me, enchanting is nothing but a waste of skill points. Thoughts?

    During Leveling and lower VR Ranks, Attribute Glyphs and Fire/Frost and those types, unless you have the runes on hand to make them just buy them from a Vendor. I don't recall if Vendors sell Regen Glyphs, but I seem to remember they don't.

    However the Glyphs like Poison or Disease or Shield or Spell/Weapon Power? You can only make those from farmed Essence Runes. I don't remember all the ones that are not vendor available, but it seems like all the really effective Weapon and Jewelery Essences are not.

    Also, once your in the upper VR Ranks, then making Glyphs with Blue, Purple and in some cases Gold Aspects can really benefit you, and there is no other way to get these unless you want to pay through the nose to an Enchanter.

    So, here is what you do. Decon all the Glyphs you get from mob loot to level the skill, but don't put any points into anything but Extraction. Then, when you reach mid VR ranks, start putting points into the craft and making your own. By then, you have more skill points than you can spend anyway.

    Enchanting was also Nerfed hard with 1.6 and the promised changes to bring it back in line with what it was have not happened. Enchanting used to really change your character and what they did, now it just kind of enhances what they do.

    Edited by Nestor on July 21, 2015 9:38PM
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  • Tholian1
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    Nestor wrote: »
    Tholian1 wrote: »

    So far, for me, enchanting is nothing but a waste of skill points. Thoughts?

    During Leveling and lower VR Ranks, Attribute Glyphs and Fire/Frost and those types, unless you have the runes on hand to make them just buy them from a Vendor. I don't recall if Vendors sell Regen Glyphs, but I seem to remember they don't.

    However the Glyphs like Poison or Disease or Shield or Spell/Weapon Power? You can only make those from farmed Essence Runes. I don't remember all the ones that are not vendor available, but it seems like all the really effective Weapon and Jewelery Essences are not.

    Also, once your in the upper VR Ranks, then making Glyphs with Blue, Purple and in some cases Gold Aspects can really benefit you, and there is no other way to get these unless you want to pay through the nose to an Enchanter.

    So, here is what you do. Decon all the Glyphs you get from mob loot to level the skill, but don't put any points into anything but Extraction. Then, when you reach mid VR ranks, start putting points into the craft and making your own. By then, you have more skill points than you can spend anyway.

    Enchanting was also Nerfed hard with 1.6 and the promised changes to bring it back in line with what it was have not happened. Enchanting used to really change your character and what they did, now it just kind of enhances what they do.

    Thanks for the tips. I suppose my biggest issue with crafting in ESO, is that lower levels must make huge sacrifices with skill points in order to pursue crafting. It's a wall that shouldn't exist.

    Good to know that I will be swimming in skill points later on.
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  • Wreuntzylla
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    You can swim in skill points early on... I have a level 15ish toon with 60 or 70 skill points, without the delve skyshards.

    1. Get the skyshard addon and grab any skyshard that isn't in a delve. You will find that almost all of them have at least one approach that does not aggro any nearby mobs (with Cold harbour being rather tricky in places). If you know someone that is much higher level than you, ask them to group with you and then teleport from wayshrine to wayshrine. Use travel to player each time the person teleports. Do this again at VR1, and again when completing Cadwell's Silver. If they are really willing to go out of their way, have them clear the way to the skyshard in each delve!

    2. Find a PvP server dominated by your faction. Complete the newb quest (1 skill point). Particpate in PvP for about an hour or two (1-2 more skill points). Grab every skyshard. Because you are battle leveled it is possible to grab the delve skyshards also. I think the skyshards alone net you something like 16 skill points.

    Other sources of skillpoints many people don't know about include public dungeon group encounters and group dungeons.

    Of course, most people know that the main quest line and faction quest line provide skill points.

    I have a compendium of leveling must-do's not involving skill points, such as wearing at least one of each type of armor (light, medium and heavy) with the training trait on the non primary armor type. Use a weapon with the training trait (have a level 16 sorc with level 24 or 25 in destruction staff). Once you have a second bar, load it up with skills you aren't using, 2 from each line you want to level, and switch to that bar when completing a quest. You can level a line even if it is a weapon line and you don't have the weapon equipped.

    Anyway, the game allows you to do what you want if you know how!


  • Pyro117
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    I think the main problem with enchanting is that it is so dang hard to actually level up compared to all the other crafting options and its benefits are somewhat lacking comparatively.

    Don't worry Tholan - you aren't the only one disenchanted with enchanting but dang it - I will make it to level 50! someday, somehow...

    BTW, I have 3 toons - all of them save all the glyphs and runes and funnel them in to the enchanting toon. That toon is at level 44 but only a level 26 enchanting.
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    Enchanting for me has been the only craft that has been somewhat worth anything in ESO. I have made millions of gold from enchanting. Love it and am so glad I invested SP into this skill.
  • Wreuntzylla
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    Pyro117 wrote: »
    I think the main problem with enchanting is that it is so dang hard to actually level up compared to all the other crafting options and its benefits are somewhat lacking comparatively.

    Don't worry Tholan - you aren't the only one disenchanted with enchanting but dang it - I will make it to level 50! someday, somehow...

    BTW, I have 3 toons - all of them save all the glyphs and runes and funnel them in to the enchanting toon. That toon is at level 44 but only a level 26 enchanting.

    You can make any enchant in the game at level 40 enchanting. It's not apples to apples.
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