@UPrime Hmmmm... Role playing is really not why I am playing games. I mean, games like The Sims, probably. But I like the competition. I'm a fairly competitive person. The thing with communities like LoL, is most people say they're a team, and yet when it comes down for players to actually work together (like when one teammate is dying too often, on purpose or not), they tend to lash at each other rather than trying to come up with a solid plan so that they can win the game. Having said that, that is what I like about the ESO community, based on my experience so far, there are several instances when on group dungeons killing a boss is just too difficult, and instead of isolating people for doing poorly, everyone on the team is being constructive and try to at least give pieces of advice as to how we can complete the dungeon. Again, I'm not saying "flamers" doesn't exist here, but so far, in the months I have played ESO, I have only meet a couple, literally two people, who have flamed on me and to the team.

the toxic in LoL and dota is mostly because it is a MOBA-game. This is a simular, though different genre then MMORPG's.
There is also no big border between those types. For example guildwars 1 is in essence an MMORPG (although a-typical for most mmo's cause it isn't full open world), the PvP part of that game however is mostly MOBA.

We humans have a natural urge to categorize everything. Reality however is that every game is unique. I think the best way to categorize ESO as it is not is by calling it an MMORPG2.0

The reason is that in my opinion games like guildwars2 introduced a different direction in the genre that is taking a different approach. If you play old school MMORPG1.0 games you will find many differences that make the game different and therefor the community. Two examples.

1: the MMORPG1.0 games have a tag to loot system. basically this means that the first person hitting a foe will get the loot (and if in a party all in that party can share through a loot sharing system). The advantage of this system is that nobody can "tag along". The disadvantage is that you get something called lootstealing, resulting in flaming and annoyed people. This system is still in ESO when it comes to gatheringnodes. Something most of us has happened is that you find an iron mining node, it is guarded by a foe and while you tackle the foe, another player shows up and "steals" your iron ore. In the old gen games, this could potentially happen with all fights.

2: the MMORPG1.0 games have a very big difference between levellinggame and endgame. This is why still many people have the urge to grind to max level. They are "seasoned" to think that it is the way to go. Reality in my opinion is that ESO doesn't have an endgame, but has a strong levelling game.

Why this long introduction to answer your question?
Cause it is needed to explain how stupid labels are. A game is not designed to have a label or fit in a certain box.

A true mmorpg is an openworld role playing game.
This means that (mot) of the game takes place in an open world where all players roam and encounter eachother. They can either play together against the environment (PVE) or fight eachother (PVP) depending on the gamemode. Ironically, the most popular elements in many MMORPG's is not the open world content, but the instanced content (like raids, dungeons and trials).

Keep in mind that RPG (role playing game) is much broader than just role playing. RP-ing is something only a minority of the community enjoy. It is where you enact as if there is no immersion wall and you stay in full character all the time.
Personally I don't do that. I like to make my character look good. I like the story and the fantasy. But I prefer to always be aware of the reality, that I am playing a game and that it is an artificial world.

ESO is actually not really an MMORPG game at all. The elder scrolls series is mostly single player role playing game. ESO is more a hybrid between an MMORPG and a single player RPG. It is made to attract public from both genres.

I think the best answer is that ESO is ESO!

me_ming wrote: »

@UPrime Hmmmm... Role playing is really not why I am playing games. I mean, games like The Sims, probably. But I like the competition. I'm a fairly competitive person. The thing with communities like LoL, is most people say they're a team, and yet when it comes down for players to actually work together (like when one teammate is dying too often, on purpose or not), they tend to lash at each other rather than trying to come up with a solid plan so that they can win the game. Having said that, that is what I like about the ESO community, based on my experience so far, there are several instances when on group dungeons killing a boss is just too difficult, and instead of isolating people for doing poorly, everyone on the team is being constructive and try to at least give pieces of advice as to how we can complete the dungeon. Again, I'm not saying "flamers" doesn't exist here, but so far, in the months I have played ESO, I have only meet a couple, literally two people, who have flamed on me and to the team.

The RPG in Role Playing Game doesn't mean Role Playing. It's a hold over from table top games when you were actually role playing. But now it represents a type of game play. If you have a game where your play a single character that has skills that develop, you're playing a role playing game.

KerinKor wrote: »

Ranique wrote: »

ESO is actually not really an MMORPG game at all.

ESO is an entirely generic theme-park MMO, structurally identical to WOW, Rift, LoTRO, GW2 and several others.

All those games are soloable to level cap (PVE) with option group content, and the end-game is endless repeating 'raids' (of some form or other) or 'dailies'. Yes, there are differences of detail but objectively they're all pretty much the same.

PVP is also similarly generic, the 'massive battles' ZOS hyped up Cyrodiil to have but failed to deliver server tech to support were seen 10 years ago in WOW in the open world, to name but one of those I experienced first-hand, EVE of course has mega-battles far beyond anything ESO can remotely dream of.

ESO isn't a bad MMORPG, it's just nothing special, structurally.

Please if you quote someone, do it correctly. You pulled my quote totally out of context and then put some nonsens arguments why it is wrong. That way of commenting is rude, offensive and simplky wrong.

I said....

ESO is actually not really an MMORPG game at all. The elder scrolls series is mostly single player role playing game. ESO is more a hybrid between an MMORPG and a single player RPG. It is made to attract public from both genres.

I never called ESO bad, or not an MMORPG. I made a point that it is designed to be a crossover. something they did very well.

Here is some details from wiki about what RPG is. Fun info to skim if you're learning.
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This isn't specific to MMO's only but a lot of MMO's are of RPG games. ESO for instance is an MMO-RPG.