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Imperial City, Nightblade paradise?
Vylaer
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Ignoring the entire debate about losing stones to players, is anyone else incredibly scared of the unique set of skills Nightblades have to hide among PvE enemies and execute people fighting bosses?
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RustedValor✭✭✭Um not really. Anyone can wear medium armor and use invisability potions. The nightblade invis lasts like 3 seconds unless they spam it over and over. Also with the new PvP update people aren't going to be getting instakilled anymore, and no more infinite dodge rolling, so NB will actually have to go Toe to Toe with people. We will just have to see how things play out on Test.2 -
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✭Yeah, infinite invisibility on Magicka Nightblades is not an advantage at all. "LOL" button, please!
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Vylaer✭✭I feel like you could build a Nightblade to sustain invisibility long enough to get a few impales off. Something you can't do with invis potions. Also, from the looks of those areas in Imperial City it will be hard to chase down a fleeing Nightblade with the amount of PvE enemies everywhere since they have invis past them on demand.Guild Leader - Entropy Rising1
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Vylaer✭✭RustedValor wrote: »
I just imagine the fighting between PvE/PvP being hectic enough a Nightblade will be able attack and retreat while avoiding getting CC'd by players.Guild Leader - Entropy Rising0 -
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There's an assumption you'll see them coming. Which is not really likely unless they are being piloted by uber-derp.RustedValor wrote: »I don't have a problem dealing with them. Every class has its strengths, and its pretty easy to kill them since they run out of stamina pretty quickly and wont be able to break CC.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yaaaaaaay more threads spreading fears about Imperial City.Sweetrolls for all!
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✭✭✭Ignoring the entire debate about losing stones to players, is anyone else incredibly scared of the unique set of skills Nightblades have to hide among PvE enemies and execute people fighting bosses?
If ZOS really does make it so Detection Potions stop going through Cloak, then it will be a Nightblade's paradise.
If ZOS keeps Detection Potions working as they are now, it will be a Nightblade's Nightmare -- if Oblivion was any indication Imperial City has a lot of small areas and closed corridors, it will be difficult for a Nightblade to break out of detection range of anyone running a potion."If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
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There's an assumption you'll see them coming. Which is not really likely unless they are being piloted by uber-derp.RustedValor wrote: »I don't have a problem dealing with them. Every class has its strengths, and its pretty easy to kill them since they run out of stamina pretty quickly and wont be able to break CC.
Actually I'm one of the few players that doesn't run a glass cannon build. Roll around on an Imperial templar with 35khp with high spell resist and crit resist champion passives. I ride around on get ambushed by a nightblade, I don't die instantly, heal, pop shields, stun them, and force them into a sustained fight where they arent comfortable. They either run, or die unless they are really good because allies are never far behind.Edited by RustedValor on July 19, 2015 11:09PM0 -
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Sorry to disappoint you, but this topic is about Nightblades and not about (your opinion on) your character.RustedValor wrote: »Actually I'm one of the few players that doesn't run a glass cannon build. Roll around on an Imperial templar with 35khp with high spell resist and crit resist champion passives. I ride around on get ambushed by a nightblade, I don't die instantly, heal, pop shields, stun them, and force them into a sustained fight where they arent comfortable. They either run, or die unless they are really good because allies are never far behind.0 -
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✭RustedValor wrote: »
You clearly dont get the point. Who is talking about NB's right now?
Cloak breaks randomly, cloaks still breaks on single target abilities. Cloak is useless, as soon as the enemy pops a detection potion and it last around 40 seconds. Only exception would be a lucky sniper sitting at max range, rolling out of detection range and cloaking before you get close enough. No one should have problems with magicka NB's today.
But we're talking about Imperial City and some of the informations that's been shared so far. Cloak will only break on AoE, that one is for sure. Detection potions might also be changed, to only reveals stealthed players, not cloaked NB. That means you wont be able to find a NB ever, once he cloaked. Unless you're like psychic and magically knows where he went and drops AoE on that specific spot.
People seem to not get that a magicka NB can stay cloaked forever. On my magicka NB, I can just recast/animation cancel it over and over before the old cloak run out. So no cloak doesn't last for 2.9 seconds, it can last for hours with enough magicka recovery and cost reduction.0 -
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People seem to not get that a magicka NB can stay cloaked forever. On my magicka NB, I can just recast/animation cancel it over and over before the old cloak run out. So no cloak doesn't last for 2.9 seconds, it can last for hours with enough magicka recovery and cost reduction.
Yup.
Can even do so on my Bosmer, which receives no racial bonuses to Magicka management.
Coupled with the relatively low cost on Concealed Weapon and Funnel Health, and it is possible to dish out damage and vanish as well."If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
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Vylaer✭✭Yeah. As I feared. After just playing Imperial City I've concluded that Nightblades will definitely be the strongest class for that type of fighting. The NPC enemies are strong enough to kill small groups of players on their own, so if a NB can just invis around those groups the NPC will inflict enough damage to allow for executes all day. I also saw one of the mini bosses that are scattered in each area wipe a group of 6 through some sort of AOE attack. Seems like invisibility and escapes will be the strongest weapon in IC.Guild Leader - Entropy Rising1
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k2blader✭✭✭✭✭Everyone ought to roll an endlessly cloaking NB for IC (serious).
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✭✭Well any one can be "that guy" just NB would be the best at it cause there gonna be "the class" in 7.0 -
NDwarf✭✭✭Everyone ought to roll an endlessly cloaking NB for IC (serious).
More like endlessly croaking. As in dead meat.
I'm no pvp expert (ps4 player so been playing 1.5 months) but I can't see staying alive with my NB in a claustrophobic tunnel with mage light/detect potion users about and zergs running through the area. At least in Cyrodiil I can keep a distance on a zerg and pick off targets on the flank. Need to respec into a "tunnel fighter" build I guess.
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Pirhana7_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Ignoring the entire debate about losing stones to players, is anyone else incredibly scared of the unique set of skills Nightblades have to hide among PvE enemies and execute people fighting bosses?
The Imperial City wont be liek an Open PVP server where NBs can just go anywhere with out worries. It is still territory controlled inside. Stay on yourside or around allies and you will be fine. Venture into the enemies territory and you start playing the risk game.0 -
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✭RustedValor wrote: »Um not really. Anyone can wear medium armor and use invisability potions. The nightblade invis lasts like 3 seconds unless they spam it over and over. Also with the new PvP update people aren't going to be getting instakilled anymore, and no more infinite dodge rolling, so NB will actually have to go Toe to Toe with people. We will just have to see how things play out on Test.
Might be true about going toe to toe but I lol at using invis pots, or detect pots for that matter....
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k2blader✭✭✭✭✭Everyone ought to roll an endlessly cloaking NB for IC (serious).
More like endlessly croaking. As in dead meat.
I'm no pvp expert (ps4 player so been playing 1.5 months) but I can't see staying alive with my NB in a claustrophobic tunnel with mage light/detect potion users about and zergs running through the area. At least in Cyrodiil I can keep a distance on a zerg and pick off targets on the flank. Need to respec into a "tunnel fighter" build I guess.
I can see packs of Steel Tomatoes night blades going apeshit in the tunnels tho
Lol, yeah, probably. Either way NBs will be fun, I think. I dread the PTS download but will be getting on to check things out..
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Rhakon✭✭✭Just watch some streams.. NB rushing throught the mobs without pull them, so when you want follow you will pull and die, there is zero chance of getting the NB because he hides behind the mobs endless...4
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Vylaer✭✭Just watch some streams.. NB rushing throught the mobs without pull them, so when you want follow you will pull and die, there is zero chance of getting the NB because he hides behind the mobs endless...
I experienced that a few times myself. That's the exact strategy I'm not thrilled about.Guild Leader - Entropy Rising2 -
dafox187✭✭✭RustedValor wrote: »NB will actually have to go Toe to Toe with people. .
i dont even play nb and that's bad nightblade is obviously supposed to be a rogue-like assassin class they should be able to instakill evryone
don't get mad at my spelling, autocorrect doesn't cover fantasy.
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IWannaBeATiger✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
So... cloak isn't going to be OP just fixedEdited by IWannaBeATiger on July 29, 2015 4:58AM0 -
OzJohnD✭✭✭✭I have three nightblades ... all three are argonians and all three are my bank mules, I gave them all servant disguises to wear, they never get to leave the bank
boy they are pissed off !Edited by OzJohnD on July 29, 2015 5:13AMEveryone knows the phenomenon of trying to hold your breath underwater - how at first it's alright and you can handle it, and then as it gets closer and closer to the time when you must breathe, how urgent the need becomes, the lust and the hunger to breathe. And then the panic sets in when you begin to think that you won't be able to breathe - and finally, when you take in air and the anxiety subsides...that's what it's like to be a vampire and need blood.
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✭There isnt that much room to hide as you think, lots of close quarters fighting. IC is going to be totally different than open and wide Cyrodil. Its literally city. Big zerg might hit you as you go around the corner.
Edited by Sausage on July 29, 2015 5:44AM1
