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Sooooo... with the new materials being IC exclusives... is eso finally P2W?

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You can buy things like colossus bars and harvester silk + VR16 runes at the merchant in the IC sewers. As IC is also the only spot with v16 enemies, are non-dlc players even able to get v16 items by themselves? Are they stuck at v14 items? How are they supposed to get those mats without the dlc/buying it from a dlc player.
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  • JD2013
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    It's pretty much the same as any expansion. If you don't buy the expansion, you don't get the gear.
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  • driosketch
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    They mentioned in another thread they would be raising the level of dungeons to VR16. What about that?
    Maotti_Nor wrote: »
    Xeniph wrote: »
    Sadly the only real info we got here, that we haven't seen before, is the launch date and the crown cost.

    I was hoping for more info.

    As mentioned in the article, we'll be releasing more info each week as we get closer to its launch. And, of course, there will be a whole slew of patch notes when this hits the PTS later this month. ;)

    What about existing pledges and Vet CoA? Will those be upscaled to VR16 aswell? I certainly hope so.

    Yes, all dungeons and pledges will be scaled to VR16.

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    You can get them mailed to you from what I hear.
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  • MCMancub
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    They aren't exclusive. They can only be obtained in I.C., but you can mail them or sell them.
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    You can decon v15-16 items from dongeons and pledges to get that material
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  • Pangnirtung
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    Did I hear right when someone said, the Telvar Stones will be in the crown store?
  • emre.as.aslanb16_ESO
    driosketch wrote: »
    They mentioned in another thread they would be raising the level of dungeons to VR16. What about that?
    Maotti_Nor wrote: »
    Xeniph wrote: »
    Sadly the only real info we got here, that we haven't seen before, is the launch date and the crown cost.

    I was hoping for more info.

    As mentioned in the article, we'll be releasing more info each week as we get closer to its launch. And, of course, there will be a whole slew of patch notes when this hits the PTS later this month. ;)

    What about existing pledges and Vet CoA? Will those be upscaled to VR16 aswell? I certainly hope so.

    Yes, all dungeons and pledges will be scaled to VR16.

    Only the dungeons, or do you also have information on trials.
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  • JD2013
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    Did I hear right when someone said, the Telvar Stones will be in the crown store?

    They will *not* be in crown store.
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  • Shimmer
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    The auction is also a useful place to purchase materials. I dont understand why everyone is crying P2W, its an expansion, you pay for expansions in any game.
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  • MCMancub
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    Did I hear right when someone said, the Telvar Stones will be in the crown store?

    They confirmed they will not be in the crown store.
  • FireCowCommando
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    Pay to win is buying in game currency ect to progress, not unlocking DLC or expansions...
  • DDuke
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    Warlords of Draenor raised level cap & introduced new gear you don't even have access to without it.

    I guess this means WoW is P2W (since Burning Crusade)

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  • timidobserver
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    I can't even remember the last time I looted a resource node. When I need crafting materials I buy them, which is still possible in Imperial City.
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  • spoqster
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    Nah this doesn't count. It's a DLC, it's content. In that sense ESO itself could be cosidered P2W because you can't win at it unless you pay for the game.
  • Celestrael
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    This ain't Welfare Scrolls Online. If you want access to DLC content you're going to have to pay for it, because it's not free to generate and MMOs are not free to operate. Quit cryin'.
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  • Vizier
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    Honestly... SO WHAT. Sooooooo ZoS can't introduce new content and not charge for it? That's called running a business. The gaming industry is not a charity. Get used to it. You want to start a non-profit gaming organization? Go for it.
  • Agobi
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    MCMancub wrote: »
    Did I hear right when someone said, the Telvar Stones will be in the crown store?

    They confirmed they will not be in the crown store.

    Good thing they have never gone back on their word before ;)

    Think the correct phrase here is not yet..... :D
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    They've made it very clear, repeatedly and across multiple media, that you can buy the gear from other players, minus bind-on-pickup stuff. You don't need to have the DLC to get the new gear, but I don't really know what content you're looking to gear up for if you don't have the DLC. More Sanctum runs? Don't get me wrong, I'll totally still do some SO and all that after IC launch, but most of us will be focusing on the new stuff.
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  • TheMavShow
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    I'm so excited!!! I don't have time to farm materials as I mainly pvp so this is great for me!
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  • Tyrusaran
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    YES ESO has gone P2W and pvp centric. If i wanted guild wars i would have bought guild wars. As for P2W, a sure way to make the game die before the end of the year.
  • SLy_Kyti
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    The new materials WILL be available to those without the DLC.
    They will be available in PvP chests as gear.Those can be deconned for mats.
    They can be sold in Guild Stores, As well as deconstructed from gear there.
    There are no New Material nodes in IC. There are no nodes there at all.
    There is a Merchant that is available to IC DLC owners. Otherwise they get those mats the same way. Though they have access to monsters/ Treasure chests that drop said items.

    It is not P2W. It is however easier for those with the DLC as they have more content.

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    Edited by SLy_Kyti on July 17, 2015 10:22PM
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    It is pay to play like it should. Is it worth the pay for playing . Up to now I it doesn't look like it to me.
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  • JamilaRaj
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    I hope the Monetization Department forgot to nerf Cyrodiil rewards (mails) scaling, so us freeloaders will be able get some VR16 for deco by farming whales heading for the P2W zone. That will be totally hillarious.
    Edited by JamilaRaj on July 18, 2015 1:23AM
  • RazzPitazz
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    Agobi wrote: »
    MCMancub wrote: »
    Did I hear right when someone said, the Telvar Stones will be in the crown store?

    They confirmed they will not be in the crown store.

    Good thing they have never gone back on their word before ;)

    Think the correct phrase here is not yet..... :D

    If anything they have been pretty straight up with the contents of the crown store. Anything they said would NOT be in the crown store has yet to show up. They even went so far as to tell us way ahead of time that xp pots were definitely going to be in the crown store.
    It's what they are not telling us that should scare you lol.
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