Lose 100% of Tel Var Stones, WTF!! T_T

Aerius_Sygale · July 2015

What. The. Hell. *facedesks repeatedly* I have been playing for probably nearly 4000 hours by now, but although competent, I'm not the sharpest, most alert individual by any means, the Imperial City may end up causing me to have a heart attack...

They better revisit this, either that or the stuff you buy with it is crap that I wouldn't miss anyway. But if it does...sh*t needs to change... ;-; My God... *shudders* I have nearly 400 Champion Points, but that won't be enough when someone has over 1000...

MrBeatDown · July 2015

Get good and die in pvp?

xoduspaladin · July 2015

They suggested that depending on the feedback they get in beta, they may change the value..but yeah, I feel ya.

TheBull · July 2015

You are in Cyrodiil. Don't like it don't come.

Aerius_Sygale · July 2015

MrBeatDown wrote: »

Get good and die in pvp?

Dying to a player in PvP in Imperial City robs you of ALL your Tel Var Stones, death is not an option...that is intentionally bad advice, thanks bunches... -_-'

technohic · July 2015

You can get a box from quests including dailies that cannot be looted until you open it, which you can do safely right by where you can bank them. Sounds reasonable to me to give someone no risk, guaranteed rewards, you got it and at the same time, you can go try to get more at a risk. This is meant to be a PvP currency after all.

TheBull · July 2015

Aerius_Sygale wrote: »

What. The. Hell. *facedesks repeatedly* I have been playing for probably nearly 4000 hours by now, but although competent, I'm not the sharpest, most alert individual by any means, the Imperial City may end up causing me to have a heart attack...

They better revisit this, either that or the stuff you buy with it is crap that I wouldn't miss anyway. But if it does...sh*t needs to change... ;-; My God... *shudders* I have nearly 400 Champion Points, but that won't be enough when someone has over 1000...

Aaah the mythical 1000 champ point guy.

Machiavelli · July 2015

Are they bound? Would it be possible to mail them on the fly.

Aerius_Sygale · July 2015

technohic wrote: »

You can get a box from quests including dailies that cannot be looted until you open it, which you can do safely right by where you can bank them. Sounds reasonable to me to give someone no risk, guaranteed rewards, you got it and at the same time, you can go try to get more at a risk. This is meant to be a PvP currency after all.

There was already Alliance Points for a PvP currency, the hell... ._. I just hope one of those polymorphs they mentioned are good. <.<

Aerius_Sygale · July 2015

Machiavelli wrote: »

Are they bound? Would it be possible to mail them on the fly.

You can not mail them, you can not trade them, only bank them, at a charge of 50, I repeat 50 Tel Var Stones no matter how few you may be depositing...

traigusb14_ESO2 · July 2015

Aerius_Sygale wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

You can get a box from quests including dailies that cannot be looted until you open it, which you can do safely right by where you can bank them. Sounds reasonable to me to give someone no risk, guaranteed rewards, you got it and at the same time, you can go try to get more at a risk. This is meant to be a PvP currency after all.

There was already Alliance Points for a PvP currency, the hell... ._. I just hope one of those polymorphs they mentioned are good. <.<

Still getting AP too.

sparafucilsarwb17_ESO · July 2015

Here is feedback ZOS...change the value lost to ZERO.

Pangnirtung · July 2015

TheBull wrote: »

You are in Cyrodiil. Don't like it don't come.

I wish that PVP in Cyrodiil was like the old UO.

Get ganked and you lose EVERYTHING. Now that's PVP'ing not the carebear IC style PVP.

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Celestrael · July 2015

There's already several threads on this... if you don't like the mechanic then don't go to IC. It's a PvP/PvE mixed zone where there's high danger and risk, as well as high reward. If you want to mindlessly farm stones with zero excitement, wait for the next expansion which from what I understand is going to be a PvE one.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · July 2015

Aerius_Sygale wrote: »

Machiavelli wrote: »

Are they bound? Would it be possible to mail them on the fly.

You can not mail them, you can not trade them, only bank them, at a charge of 50, I repeat 50 Tel Var Stones no matter how few you may be depositing...

So you have to pay to bank them (out of the stones you have)? WTF!

Aerius_Sygale · July 2015

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Aerius_Sygale wrote: »

Machiavelli wrote: »

Are they bound? Would it be possible to mail them on the fly.

You can not mail them, you can not trade them, only bank them, at a charge of 50, I repeat 50 Tel Var Stones no matter how few you may be depositing...

So you have to pay to bank them (out of the stones you have)? WTF!

Yes, so if you go to bank 51, only 1 Tel Var Stone will actually be deposited, the rest lost. ._.

traigusb14_ESO2 · July 2015

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Aerius_Sygale wrote: »

Machiavelli wrote: »

Are they bound? Would it be possible to mail them on the fly.

You can not mail them, you can not trade them, only bank them, at a charge of 50, I repeat 50 Tel Var Stones no matter how few you may be depositing...

So you have to pay to bank them (out of the stones you have)? WTF!

No he said they tried that and people didn't like it, so now they have it that you have to have more than 50 to bank them... but all are banked (no fee).

SO if you have 34 you can't bank.
if you have 49 you can't bank
if you have 50 you bank 50 (no fee)
if you have 51 you bank 51 (no fee)

if you have 10,000 you bank 10,000 (no fee)

Korah_Eaglecry · July 2015

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Aerius_Sygale wrote: »

Machiavelli wrote: »

Are they bound? Would it be possible to mail them on the fly.

You can not mail them, you can not trade them, only bank them, at a charge of 50, I repeat 50 Tel Var Stones no matter how few you may be depositing...

So you have to pay to bank them (out of the stones you have)? WTF!

If that isnt a blatant indicator that they want you to keep them on you so gankers like Bull up there can easily strut through the game with no effort.

Aerius_Sygale · July 2015

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Aerius_Sygale wrote: »

Machiavelli wrote: »

Are they bound? Would it be possible to mail them on the fly.

You can not mail them, you can not trade them, only bank them, at a charge of 50, I repeat 50 Tel Var Stones no matter how few you may be depositing...

So you have to pay to bank them (out of the stones you have)? WTF!

No he said they tried that and people didn't like it, so now they have it that you have to have more than 50 to bank them... but all are banked (no fee).

SO if you have 34 you can't bank.
if you have 49 you can't bank
if you have 50 you bank 50 (no fee)
if you have 51 you bank 51 (no fee)

if you have 10,000 you bank 10,000 (no fee)

Then why was the game being played live still applying a 50 Tel Var Stones fee? >.<

JD2013 · July 2015

Aerius_Sygale wrote: »

Machiavelli wrote: »

Are they bound? Would it be possible to mail them on the fly.

You can not mail them, you can not trade them, only bank them, at a charge of 50, I repeat 50 Tel Var Stones no matter how few you may be depositing...

They changed this.

Now you have to deposit a min. of 50.

No false information, please

Hiero_Glyph · July 2015

The biggest joke is that if you're ganked but survive your best solution is to get killed by a mob and only lose 10%.

Halfwitte · July 2015

sparafucilsarwb17_ESO wrote: »

Here is feedback ZOS...change the value lost to ZERO.

Best Idea I've seen all day and it's not a wall text.

traigusb14_ESO2 · July 2015

Aerius_Sygale wrote: »

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Aerius_Sygale wrote: »

Machiavelli wrote: »

Are they bound? Would it be possible to mail them on the fly.

You can not mail them, you can not trade them, only bank them, at a charge of 50, I repeat 50 Tel Var Stones no matter how few you may be depositing...

So you have to pay to bank them (out of the stones you have)? WTF!

No he said they tried that and people didn't like it, so now they have it that you have to have more than 50 to bank them... but all are banked (no fee).

SO if you have 34 you can't bank.
if you have 49 you can't bank
if you have 50 you bank 50 (no fee)
if you have 51 you bank 51 (no fee)

if you have 10,000 you bank 10,000 (no fee)

Then why was the game being played live still applying a 50 Tel Var Stones fee? >.<

When they showed the banking he talked about it for like 5 mins explaining they tested it at and nobody liked it, so they changed it. it wasn't even a passing comment. He talked about it a lot.

technohic · July 2015

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

Aerius_Sygale wrote: »

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Aerius_Sygale wrote: »

Machiavelli wrote: »

Are they bound? Would it be possible to mail them on the fly.

You can not mail them, you can not trade them, only bank them, at a charge of 50, I repeat 50 Tel Var Stones no matter how few you may be depositing...

So you have to pay to bank them (out of the stones you have)? WTF!

No he said they tried that and people didn't like it, so now they have it that you have to have more than 50 to bank them... but all are banked (no fee).

SO if you have 34 you can't bank.
if you have 49 you can't bank
if you have 50 you bank 50 (no fee)
if you have 51 you bank 51 (no fee)

if you have 10,000 you bank 10,000 (no fee)

Then why was the game being played live still applying a 50 Tel Var Stones fee? >.<

When they showed the banking he talked about it for like 5 mins explaining they tested it at and nobody liked it, so they changed it. it wasn't even a passing comment. He talked about it a lot.

People don't care. They are in full out negative mode. I didn't like undaunted passive being behind a game mode I don't like so I just didn't do them. Somehow that's ok because it's a traditional MMO feature but because this is tied to PVP in a way people are not used to, it's wrong because it's not comfortable to the norm PVE king for progression.

timborggrenlarsenb16_ESO · July 2015

For now:
Bank 50 Win 0 Tel war stone
Bank 51 Win 1 Tel war stone

technohic · July 2015

Edit: you know that was mean of me and I apologize for those who saw it. I will stop posting for a while here and just let people get it out of their system.

MissBizz · July 2015

timborggrenlarsenb16_ESO wrote: »

For now:
Bank 50 Win 0 Tel war stone
Bank 51 Win 1 Tel war stone

They explained there is now NO fee - even though what they showed still had it. I'm watching the moment right now 1hr:23min in.

Enodoc · July 2015

Spectral_Lord wrote: »

I personally think that changing the value that you can lose would be fairer at 50 to 75%.

I agree with this. Let's get on PTS when it's up, and send in /feedback that the value should be something lower than 100% (75% works for me).

Aerius_Sygale · July 2015

technohic wrote: »

timborggrenlarsenb16_ESO wrote: »

For now:
Bank 50 Win 0 Tel war stone
Bank 51 Win 1 Tel war stone

Wipe those tears away and watch it again and you will see where that is not the case. Actually, probably better to listen to them until they finish talking. If you didn't start your temper tantrum so quick you might have heard they changed that.

I watched the whole thing to hear the stuff, but you can't believe half the stuff they say, and I still -saw- a fee...

Forestd16b14_ESO · July 2015

It's a work in progress 100% is not well not 100% set in stone.