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Every CC should be blockable
BugCollector
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Whether you're feared or rooted with Talons or Encase, it should all be blockable.
Some additional info: with the next major update you'll get no stamina regen whilst blocking
Edited by BugCollector on July 17, 2015 1:21PM Some additional info: with the next major update you'll get no stamina regen whilst blocking
May knowledge guide you to enlightenment
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BugCollector✭✭✭✭After you explain why it should be blockable.
Because it will raise the skill ceiling, especially with the new block system. You'll have to know when to block and when not to block and you'll have to think fast for deciding!Edited by BugCollector on July 17, 2015 1:23PMMay knowledge guide you to enlightenment0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭But then it would be cheaper to block then to break free etc..., gg permablockers.PS4 EU DC
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I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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CC of any form should not be spam ableFFFRRREEEDDDOOOMMM!!!
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timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I agree with this thread.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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BugCollector✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »But then it would be cheaper to block then to break free etc..., gg permablockers.
With the new block system, they'll get no more stamina regen whilst blocking, so problem solved.May knowledge guide you to enlightenment1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭How do you Block being terrified? How do you block claws shooting out of the ground to grab your legs?
Block isn't meant to be a one stop shop for all your defensive needs. Learn how to roll dodge and break free, they exist for a reasonPS4 / NA
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AlnilamE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭How do you Block being terrified? How do you block claws shooting out of the ground to grab your legs?
Block isn't meant to be a one stop shop for all your defensive needs. Learn how to roll dodge and break free, they exist for a reason
I was going to say something like this, but you said it better.The Moot Councillor0 -
timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭How do you Block being terrified? How do you block claws shooting out of the ground to grab your legs?
Block isn't meant to be a one stop shop for all your defensive needs. Learn how to roll dodge and break free, they exist for a reason
About 25 to 50 percent of the time cc break does not work on fear and it regularly bugs your character out so you can't move without using the crown store trick to free yourself.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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I hate too when every 3rd Fear unbreakabel but it only means that only skills must be fixed, not to change entire mechanic.timidobserver wrote: »How do you Block being terrified? How do you block claws shooting out of the ground to grab your legs?
Block isn't meant to be a one stop shop for all your defensive needs. Learn how to roll dodge and break free, they exist for a reason
About 25 to 50 percent of the time cc break does not work on fear and it regularly bugs your character out so you can't move without using the crown store trick to free yourself.1 -
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I hate too when every 3rd Fear unbreakabel but it only means that only skills must be fixed, not to change entire mechanic.timidobserver wrote: »How do you Block being terrified? How do you block claws shooting out of the ground to grab your legs?
Block isn't meant to be a one stop shop for all your defensive needs. Learn how to roll dodge and break free, they exist for a reason
About 25 to 50 percent of the time cc break does not work on fear and it regularly bugs your character out so you can't move without using the crown store trick to free yourself.
If they can't be bothered to fix it allowing me to block it would at least give me some hope of not getting perma cc'd.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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Mr_Nobody✭✭✭✭✭This game has no logic behind CC. The most OP CC abilities are not blockable; the other few dont respect CC immunity and can keep u in place for as long as the enemy wants. Staying Rooted in place is very often more of a CC than being knocked down for 2 seconds. But since zos has hired *McDonalds like* combat analysts, what do you expect.Edited by Mr_Nobody on July 17, 2015 8:25PM0 -
DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don't understand. If you're paralyzed or frozen in place by some affect, how could you block? You're paralyzed or frozen in place after all. If you can't attack, cast a spell or move, how on Nirn would you block?
Maybe I just don't understand the question. Are we saying that we want to be able to avoid taking damage from an attack when the entire purpose of the affect being cast on us in the first place was so that we HAD to take damage and could not defend ourselves?0 -
CaptainObvious✭✭✭✭How do you Block being terrified? How do you block claws shooting out of the ground to grab your legs?
Block isn't meant to be a one stop shop for all your defensive needs. Learn how to roll dodge and break free, they exist for a reason
Well Sparky, normally you need to see something scary to be afraid of it. So when you put your shield in between you and the fearing source then you no longer see it to be frightened.
So when the fearkyn throw the skull/fear projectile and it runs into a shield, maybe just the shield should be scared. Same thing with NB mass hysteria. When I block, I can't see the nightblade attempting to explain the rising cost of a decent education in today's society. Thus I fear nothing, my shield may be another story.
On another note, when you get set on fire then you should continue to burn until there is no oxygen source, no fuel source, or you are immersed in a vacuum or water. Additionally, said same fire should cause you to drop your weapons and cause increasing damage as cloth/leather and other flammable things will cause it to spread.Due to a typo in the system, the area was accosted by the Daedric Prince Moar Lag Brawls.2 -
timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I don't understand. If you're paralyzed or frozen in place by some affect, how could you block? You're paralyzed or frozen in place after all. If you can't attack, cast a spell or move, how on Nirn would you block?
Maybe I just don't understand the question. Are we saying that we want to be able to avoid taking damage from an attack when the entire purpose of the affect being cast on us in the first place was so that we HAD to take damage and could not defend ourselves?
Because I am in a fantasy world where my magical shield has the ability to block stuff that a mundane shield wouldn't.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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Samadhi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭CaptainObvious wrote: »How do you Block being terrified? How do you block claws shooting out of the ground to grab your legs?
Block isn't meant to be a one stop shop for all your defensive needs. Learn how to roll dodge and break free, they exist for a reason
Well Sparky, normally you need to see something scary to be afraid of it. So when you put your shield in between you and the fearing source then you no longer see it to be frightened.
So when the fearkyn throw the skull/fear projectile and it runs into a shield, maybe just the shield should be scared. Same thing with NB mass hysteria. When I block, I can't see the nightblade attempting to explain the rising cost of a decent education in today's society. Thus I fear nothing, my shield may be another story.
On another note, when you get set on fire then you should continue to burn until there is no oxygen source, no fuel source, or you are immersed in a vacuum or water. Additionally, said same fire should cause you to drop your weapons and cause increasing damage as cloth/leather and other flammable things will cause it to spread.
Have never had this happen. Dodge out of the way of Fear projectiles so they miss me.
Can see why people would want such projectiles to become blockable though. It would make it easier to faceroll if I only had to hide behind block rather than pay active attention to combat."If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
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DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭timidobserver wrote: »I don't understand. If you're paralyzed or frozen in place by some affect, how could you block? You're paralyzed or frozen in place after all. If you can't attack, cast a spell or move, how on Nirn would you block?
Maybe I just don't understand the question. Are we saying that we want to be able to avoid taking damage from an attack when the entire purpose of the affect being cast on us in the first place was so that we HAD to take damage and could not defend ourselves?
Because I am in a fantasy world where my magical shield has the ability to block stuff that a mundane shield wouldn't.
Ah! Now I understand.
Thank you.
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Samadhi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭In the next update, Fear is not going to be the CC people complain about anyway.
Dual Shades (for the Stamina drain) --> Dark Cloak --> Concealed Weapon for the stun will be what gets under everyone's skin now.
Dual Shades will mean the player has to block, blocking will mean a total lack of stamina, lack of stamina will mean unbreakable stun on Concealed Weapon.
At least with Fear I'm not standing in one place for the enemy to hammer on."If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
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jkemmery✭✭✭✭The real issue is that there isn't really any "checks and balances" to the combat systems. Being "feared" causes you to be completely vulnerable, incapable of doing anything. You can't break it even, like other CCs. It and the ridiculous "Steel Tornado" are an OP combination that Nightblades exploit to rack up kills. It's kind of pathetic and telling really that one class out of 4 accounts for 1/3 of the PVP kills. So whatever the solution is, the parity between classes has shifted to NB's being OP, and SOMETHING needs to be done about it. Make Fear cost more and be breakable, like other CCs. Reduce the radius of Steel Tornado. I mean for FREAKS sake, how on earth can a guy with 2 daggers cause damage to EVERYONE within a 72 foot wide circle. (11 meter radius ... ) The radius needs to be a more realistic 3 or maybe 5 but 11 meters? Come on! All NBs have to do is spam Fear and Steel Tornado and they win 90% of their fights.0 -
Warraxx✭✭✭✭✭The real issue is that there isn't really any "checks and balances" to the combat systems. Being "feared" causes you to be completely vulnerable, incapable of doing anything. You can't break it even, like other CCs. It and the ridiculous "Steel Tornado" are an OP combination that Nightblades exploit to rack up kills. It's kind of pathetic and telling really that one class out of 4 accounts for 1/3 of the PVP kills. So whatever the solution is, the parity between classes has shifted to NB's being OP, and SOMETHING needs to be done about it. Make Fear cost more and be breakable, like other CCs. Reduce the radius of Steel Tornado. I mean for FREAKS sake, how on earth can a guy with 2 daggers cause damage to EVERYONE within a 72 foot wide circle. (11 meter radius ... ) The radius needs to be a more realistic 3 or maybe 5 but 11 meters? Come on! All NBs have to do is spam Fear and Steel Tornado and they win 90% of their fights.
90% against you... l2p0 -
jkemmery✭✭✭✭The real issue is that there isn't really any "checks and balances" to the combat systems. Being "feared" causes you to be completely vulnerable, incapable of doing anything. You can't break it even, like other CCs. It and the ridiculous "Steel Tornado" are an OP combination that Nightblades exploit to rack up kills. It's kind of pathetic and telling really that one class out of 4 accounts for 1/3 of the PVP kills. So whatever the solution is, the parity between classes has shifted to NB's being OP, and SOMETHING needs to be done about it. Make Fear cost more and be breakable, like other CCs. Reduce the radius of Steel Tornado. I mean for FREAKS sake, how on earth can a guy with 2 daggers cause damage to EVERYONE within a 72 foot wide circle. (11 meter radius ... ) The radius needs to be a more realistic 3 or maybe 5 but 11 meters? Come on! All NBs have to do is spam Fear and Steel Tornado and they win 90% of their fights.
90% against you... l2p
Let me guess, you play a NB ... please. RMFE1 -
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✭Nerf Sorcs.Really we do it without like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical: the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth. Right? The brain, more important than the mouth, is the brain. The brain is much more important.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭This whole thread is really just another "Nerf Paper, Buff Rock, scissors is fine" whine. You guys need to learn to deal with the abilities the enemy is using against you instead of just coming to the forums to complain every time you get killed in pvp.PS4 / NA
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