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ESO named MMORPG's best MMO of 2015 (so far)
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http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/9882/The-Top-7-Best-MMOs-of-2015So-Far.html
Nice to see it getting some respect.
Nice to see it getting some respect.
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✭✭✭✭They’ve done a great job of revamping the game and now that the console version is out in the wild, the full vision of what the game was supposed to be is finally realized.
A legitimate LOL sentence.
People have been leaving ZOS because the game is turning into something that's NOT what they envisioned.Edited by Sallington on July 16, 2015 4:44PMDaggerfall Covenant
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JD2013✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭One post for the negativity to seep in. One post.
Is that a record?
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Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!5 -
Sallington✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭One post for the negativity to seep in. One post.
Is that a record?
How can you say that the vision of the game is finally realized, when the first content update that they showed at Quakecon '14 isn't even on the PTS yet?
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Trolling & Baiting]Edited by ZOS_ArtG on July 16, 2015 8:17PMDaggerfall Covenant
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✭✭✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »
It's amazing how anyone who actually likes the game is a fan boy.
Constructive retorn, son
[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]Edited by ZOS_ArtG on July 16, 2015 8:19PMSweetrolls for all!
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Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!2 -
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✭I have a bad feeling about gaming press as of lately. Not to say ZOS did not fix or improve anything, they did, but amount of things they did not fix or broke in the process of fixing of something else is astounding. Combat is buggy, glitchy, clunky as ever, it shouts out loud: this is beta-stage software. Then it stops to add with voice down: and some parts are alpha.
So, apparently all it takes to buy favours of the press is throw in some P2W and voila, from averagae to bad game they bashed when it was more or less the same as it is now is #1.
EDIT: I wonder what will the press make of Mark Jacobs once he and his men launch Camelot. I guess next time I read about him I will find he is a *** and Al-Qaeda operative.Edited by JamilaRaj on July 16, 2015 4:57PM1 -
Sallington✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »
It's amazing how anyone who actually likes the game is a fan boy.
Constructive retorn, son
When you agree with anything good that is said about something, even if it's overwhelmingly untrue, then that makes you a fan boy.
Go ahead and tell me the state of PvP right now is a fully realized vision.
EDIT: I'm more trashing the "journalism" than ESO itself.
[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]Edited by ZOS_ArtG on July 16, 2015 8:19PMDaggerfall Covenant
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✭✭If by "best" they mean "caters most to whiners and destroys its own PvP", then yea it's the best.2013
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Zershar_Vemod✭✭✭✭✭If by "best" they mean "caters most to whiners and destroys its own PvP", then yea it's the best.
I think ZOS did the fastest knee-jerk reaction nerfs I had ever seen when the game launched.House Nyssara (NA)
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✭✭✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »
It's amazing how anyone who actually likes the game is a fan boy.
Constructive retorn, son
When you agree with anything good that is said about something, even if it's overwhelmingly untrue, then that makes you a fan boy.
Actually, that is also not true.
You see, the feeling, especially on these boards about the game is overwhelmingly negative, stemming back to when the game was first announced and how everyone just wanted a Skyrim Online or an Elder Scrolls VI. It has never quite managed to shake that negativity.
Do I think everything Zenimax has done is right? Good lord no. Not in a million years. Not even close.
But this is a huge online version of Tamriel that allows me to play with friends in my favourite gaming world.
So ... If I like the game, despite its glaring flaws, it is my absolute right to do so.
[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]Edited by ZOS_ArtG on July 16, 2015 8:20PMSweetrolls for all!
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Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!4 -
MCMancub✭✭✭✭One post for the negativity to seep in. One post.
Is that a record?
It's never too early for @Sallington to pop in, claim he no longer plays but just trolls the forums while at work, and then proceed to crap all over the game.
EDIT: All in a day's work.Edited by MCMancub on July 16, 2015 4:58PM1 -
Sallington✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »
It's amazing how anyone who actually likes the game is a fan boy.
Constructive retorn, son
When you agree with anything good that is said about something, even if it's overwhelmingly untrue, then that makes you a fan boy.
Actually, that is also not true.
You see, the feeling, especially on these boards about the game is overwhelmingly negative, stemming back to when the game was first announced and how everyone just wanted a Skyrim Online or an Elder Scrolls VI. It has never quite managed to shake that negativity.
Do I think everything Zenimax has done is right? Good lord no. Not in a million years. Not even close.
But this is a huge online version of Tamriel that allows me to play with friends in my favourite gaming world.
So ... If I like the game, despite its glaring flaws, it is my absolute right to do so.
Fair enough. I think that ZOS trying to cater to both people that wanted a full-on Elder Scrolls MMO and the people that wanted a "Skyrim Online" at the same time is really where most problems/complaints stem from. They tried to include everyone, made a watered down version of both, and they have a bunch of people form both sides upset.
If they would have focused more on making it a true MMO, with less of a focus on all this immersion balogna, I'd be much happier.Edited by Sallington on July 16, 2015 5:01PMDaggerfall Covenant
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Sallington✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭One post for the negativity to seep in. One post.
Is that a record?
It's never too early for @Sallington to pop in, claim he no longer plays but just trolls the forums while at work, and then proceed to crap all over the game.
EDIT: All in a day's work.
And the daily tagteam from you too as well defending against whatever opinions I have. SSDD
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MCMancub✭✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »One post for the negativity to seep in. One post.
Is that a record?
It's never too early for @Sallington to pop in, claim he no longer plays but just trolls the forums while at work, and then proceed to crap all over the game.
EDIT: All in a day's work.
And the daily tagteam from you too as well defending against whatever opinions I have. SSDD
So you admit your only purpose for being on these forums is to berate those of us who enjoy the game?0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »
It's amazing how anyone who actually likes the game is a fan boy.
Constructive retorn, son
When you agree with anything good that is said about something, even if it's overwhelmingly untrue, then that makes you a fan boy.
Actually, that is also not true.
You see, the feeling, especially on these boards about the game is overwhelmingly negative, stemming back to when the game was first announced and how everyone just wanted a Skyrim Online or an Elder Scrolls VI. It has never quite managed to shake that negativity.
Do I think everything Zenimax has done is right? Good lord no. Not in a million years. Not even close.
But this is a huge online version of Tamriel that allows me to play with friends in my favourite gaming world.
So ... If I like the game, despite its glaring flaws, it is my absolute right to do so.
Fair enough. I think that ZOS trying to cater to both people that wanted a full-on Elder Scrolls MMO and the people that wanted a "Skyrim Online" at the same time is really where most problems/complaints stem from. They tried to include everyone, made a watered down version of both, and they have a bunch of people form both sides upset.
If they would have focused more on making it a true MMO, with less of a focus on all this immersion balogna, I'd be much happier.
And I respect that opinion. You are absolutely right that they tried to cater to both parties and likely should not have.
I also would like a little more MMO in this game.
But I work an insane amount of hours, and I am not a hardcore at all due to this, so I just sit back, boot up and go and wander off into Tamriel. It is my stress relief and escape.Sweetrolls for all!
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✭✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »One post for the negativity to seep in. One post.
Is that a record?
It's never too early for @Sallington to pop in, claim he no longer plays but just trolls the forums while at work, and then proceed to crap all over the game.
EDIT: All in a day's work.
And the daily tagteam from you too as well defending against whatever opinions I have. SSDD
So you admit your only purpose for being on these forums is to berate those of us who enjoy the game?
Semantics holmes. Would you have preferred if I said "providing conflicting opinions of your own."Daggerfall Covenant
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kupacmac✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »
It's amazing how anyone who actually likes the game is a fan boy.
Constructive retorn, son
When you agree with anything good that is said about something, even if it's overwhelmingly untrue, then that makes you a fan boy.
Actually, that is also not true.
You see, the feeling, especially on these boards about the game is overwhelmingly negative, stemming back to when the game was first announced and how everyone just wanted a Skyrim Online or an Elder Scrolls VI. It has never quite managed to shake that negativity.
Do I think everything Zenimax has done is right? Good lord no. Not in a million years. Not even close.
But this is a huge online version of Tamriel that allows me to play with friends in my favourite gaming world.
So ... If I like the game, despite its glaring flaws, it is my absolute right to do so.
Fair enough. I think that ZOS trying to cater to both people that wanted a full-on Elder Scrolls MMO and the people that wanted a "Skyrim Online" at the same time is really where most problems/complaints stem from. They tried to include everyone, made a watered down version of both, and they have a bunch of people form both sides upset.
If they would have focused more on making it a true MMO, with less of a focus on all this immersion balogna, I'd be much happier.
Nothing wrong with immersion IMO. You can always just ignore that aspect, whereas an MMO with zero immersion doesn't offer anything for players that do want it.1 -
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✭✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »
It's amazing how anyone who actually likes the game is a fan boy.
Constructive retorn, son
When you agree with anything good that is said about something, even if it's overwhelmingly untrue, then that makes you a fan boy.
Actually, that is also not true.
You see, the feeling, especially on these boards about the game is overwhelmingly negative, stemming back to when the game was first announced and how everyone just wanted a Skyrim Online or an Elder Scrolls VI. It has never quite managed to shake that negativity.
Do I think everything Zenimax has done is right? Good lord no. Not in a million years. Not even close.
But this is a huge online version of Tamriel that allows me to play with friends in my favourite gaming world.
So ... If I like the game, despite its glaring flaws, it is my absolute right to do so.
Fair enough. I think that ZOS trying to cater to both people that wanted a full-on Elder Scrolls MMO and the people that wanted a "Skyrim Online" at the same time is really where most problems/complaints stem from. They tried to include everyone, made a watered down version of both, and they have a bunch of people form both sides upset.
If they would have focused more on making it a true MMO, with less of a focus on all this immersion balogna, I'd be much happier.
Nothing wrong with immersion IMO. You can always just ignore that aspect, whereas an MMO with zero immersion doesn't offer anything for players that do want it.
There's been plenty of immersion in other MMOs (or games in general), but you might need to use your imagination. The problems arise when they try to force immersion through game mechanics that affect the gameplay of an MMO.
"Immersion" in MMOs just isn't the same as single-player RPG. In MMOs you get immersed in the community, of it feeling like a real world you're apart of. ZOS tried to use the same immersion tactics they use in the single-player ES games, and it failed in my opinion.Edited by Sallington on July 16, 2015 5:14PMDaggerfall Covenant
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asteldian✭✭✭✭While I would like more MMOness, the less focus on that has been a refreshing change and I found the game highly enjoyable.
I think all these 'best' lists are nonsense though. I mean for me, yes ESO is the best - otherwise I would be playing something else. But as an overall 'best' for the majority? I don't think so, I mean to be fair I think there are very slim pickings atm which probably helps, but ESO, despite me enjoying it, has far too many flaws, some of which have been around far too long, to be winning any best of race.2 -
kupacmac✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »
It's amazing how anyone who actually likes the game is a fan boy.
Constructive retorn, son
When you agree with anything good that is said about something, even if it's overwhelmingly untrue, then that makes you a fan boy.
Actually, that is also not true.
You see, the feeling, especially on these boards about the game is overwhelmingly negative, stemming back to when the game was first announced and how everyone just wanted a Skyrim Online or an Elder Scrolls VI. It has never quite managed to shake that negativity.
Do I think everything Zenimax has done is right? Good lord no. Not in a million years. Not even close.
But this is a huge online version of Tamriel that allows me to play with friends in my favourite gaming world.
So ... If I like the game, despite its glaring flaws, it is my absolute right to do so.
Fair enough. I think that ZOS trying to cater to both people that wanted a full-on Elder Scrolls MMO and the people that wanted a "Skyrim Online" at the same time is really where most problems/complaints stem from. They tried to include everyone, made a watered down version of both, and they have a bunch of people form both sides upset.
If they would have focused more on making it a true MMO, with less of a focus on all this immersion balogna, I'd be much happier.
Nothing wrong with immersion IMO. You can always just ignore that aspect, whereas an MMO with zero immersion doesn't offer anything for players that do want it.
There's been plenty of immersion in other MMOs (or games in general), but you might need to use your imagination. The problems arise when they try to force immersion through game mechanics that affect the gameplay of an MMO.
"Immersion" in MMOs just isn't the same as single-player RPG. In MMOs you get immersed in the community, of it feeling like a real world you're apart of. ZOS tried to use the same immersion tactics they use in the single-player ES games, and it failed in my opinion.
The only MMOs I've played that had "community immersion" were ones that also had forced grouping (FFXI, DAoC, Lineage2, etc). Otherwise the community just went off and did their own thing more or less. Can you give me an example of an MMO with better immersion than ESO?0 -
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✭✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »
It's amazing how anyone who actually likes the game is a fan boy.
Constructive retorn, son
When you agree with anything good that is said about something, even if it's overwhelmingly untrue, then that makes you a fan boy.
Actually, that is also not true.
You see, the feeling, especially on these boards about the game is overwhelmingly negative, stemming back to when the game was first announced and how everyone just wanted a Skyrim Online or an Elder Scrolls VI. It has never quite managed to shake that negativity.
Do I think everything Zenimax has done is right? Good lord no. Not in a million years. Not even close.
But this is a huge online version of Tamriel that allows me to play with friends in my favourite gaming world.
So ... If I like the game, despite its glaring flaws, it is my absolute right to do so.
Fair enough. I think that ZOS trying to cater to both people that wanted a full-on Elder Scrolls MMO and the people that wanted a "Skyrim Online" at the same time is really where most problems/complaints stem from. They tried to include everyone, made a watered down version of both, and they have a bunch of people form both sides upset.
If they would have focused more on making it a true MMO, with less of a focus on all this immersion balogna, I'd be much happier.
Nothing wrong with immersion IMO. You can always just ignore that aspect, whereas an MMO with zero immersion doesn't offer anything for players that do want it.
There's been plenty of immersion in other MMOs (or games in general), but you might need to use your imagination. The problems arise when they try to force immersion through game mechanics that affect the gameplay of an MMO.
"Immersion" in MMOs just isn't the same as single-player RPG. In MMOs you get immersed in the community, of it feeling like a real world you're apart of. ZOS tried to use the same immersion tactics they use in the single-player ES games, and it failed in my opinion.
The only MMOs I've played that had "community immersion" were ones that also had forced grouping (FFXI, DAoC, Lineage2, etc). Otherwise the community just went off and did their own thing more or less. Can you give me an example of an MMO with better immersion than ESO?
Without a doubt SWG (RIP). I felt immersed in the world when playing WoW and LOTRO back in the day as well.
Don't get me wrong, ESO can be very immersive in much the same way it's single-player counterparts are. I just don't think it gets the MMO part right, which is the whole reason I started playing it in the first place.Edited by Sallington on July 16, 2015 5:27PMDaggerfall Covenant
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kupacmac✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »
It's amazing how anyone who actually likes the game is a fan boy.
Constructive retorn, son
When you agree with anything good that is said about something, even if it's overwhelmingly untrue, then that makes you a fan boy.
Actually, that is also not true.
You see, the feeling, especially on these boards about the game is overwhelmingly negative, stemming back to when the game was first announced and how everyone just wanted a Skyrim Online or an Elder Scrolls VI. It has never quite managed to shake that negativity.
Do I think everything Zenimax has done is right? Good lord no. Not in a million years. Not even close.
But this is a huge online version of Tamriel that allows me to play with friends in my favourite gaming world.
So ... If I like the game, despite its glaring flaws, it is my absolute right to do so.
Fair enough. I think that ZOS trying to cater to both people that wanted a full-on Elder Scrolls MMO and the people that wanted a "Skyrim Online" at the same time is really where most problems/complaints stem from. They tried to include everyone, made a watered down version of both, and they have a bunch of people form both sides upset.
If they would have focused more on making it a true MMO, with less of a focus on all this immersion balogna, I'd be much happier.
Nothing wrong with immersion IMO. You can always just ignore that aspect, whereas an MMO with zero immersion doesn't offer anything for players that do want it.
There's been plenty of immersion in other MMOs (or games in general), but you might need to use your imagination. The problems arise when they try to force immersion through game mechanics that affect the gameplay of an MMO.
"Immersion" in MMOs just isn't the same as single-player RPG. In MMOs you get immersed in the community, of it feeling like a real world you're apart of. ZOS tried to use the same immersion tactics they use in the single-player ES games, and it failed in my opinion.
The only MMOs I've played that had "community immersion" were ones that also had forced grouping (FFXI, DAoC, Lineage2, etc). Otherwise the community just went off and did their own thing more or less. Can you give me an example of an MMO with better immersion than ESO?
Without a doubt SWG (RIP). I felt immersed in the world when playing WoW and LOTRO back in the day as well.
We definitely have different opinions of WoW. The Cartoon Network environments completely turned me off and eventually drove me away from the game. It had the worst community and quest system of any MMO I've ever played. Couldn't stand seeing another player in the same area I was in because of the atrocious competition for *everything* (in a cooperative MMO no less). And I never cared one bit about any of the quests I was doing. They were just there to get the prize and move on.
I quit playing SWG after beta and never tried LOTRO, so I'll take your word on them.
So basically, out of the MMO's that are legitimately playable today, you'd rank WoW higher than ESO in immersion?0 -
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✭✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »
It's amazing how anyone who actually likes the game is a fan boy.
Constructive retorn, son
When you agree with anything good that is said about something, even if it's overwhelmingly untrue, then that makes you a fan boy.
Actually, that is also not true.
You see, the feeling, especially on these boards about the game is overwhelmingly negative, stemming back to when the game was first announced and how everyone just wanted a Skyrim Online or an Elder Scrolls VI. It has never quite managed to shake that negativity.
Do I think everything Zenimax has done is right? Good lord no. Not in a million years. Not even close.
But this is a huge online version of Tamriel that allows me to play with friends in my favourite gaming world.
So ... If I like the game, despite its glaring flaws, it is my absolute right to do so.
Fair enough. I think that ZOS trying to cater to both people that wanted a full-on Elder Scrolls MMO and the people that wanted a "Skyrim Online" at the same time is really where most problems/complaints stem from. They tried to include everyone, made a watered down version of both, and they have a bunch of people form both sides upset.
If they would have focused more on making it a true MMO, with less of a focus on all this immersion balogna, I'd be much happier.
Nothing wrong with immersion IMO. You can always just ignore that aspect, whereas an MMO with zero immersion doesn't offer anything for players that do want it.
There's been plenty of immersion in other MMOs (or games in general), but you might need to use your imagination. The problems arise when they try to force immersion through game mechanics that affect the gameplay of an MMO.
"Immersion" in MMOs just isn't the same as single-player RPG. In MMOs you get immersed in the community, of it feeling like a real world you're apart of. ZOS tried to use the same immersion tactics they use in the single-player ES games, and it failed in my opinion.
The only MMOs I've played that had "community immersion" were ones that also had forced grouping (FFXI, DAoC, Lineage2, etc). Otherwise the community just went off and did their own thing more or less. Can you give me an example of an MMO with better immersion than ESO?
Without a doubt SWG (RIP). I felt immersed in the world when playing WoW and LOTRO back in the day as well.
We definitely have different opinions of WoW. The Cartoon Network environments completely turned me off and eventually drove me away from the game. It had the worst community and quest system of any MMO I've ever played. Couldn't stand seeing another player in the same area I was in because of the atrocious competition for *everything* (in a cooperative MMO no less). And I never cared one bit about any of the quests I was doing. They were just there to get the prize and move on.
I quit playing SWG after beta and never tried LOTRO, so I'll take your word on them.
So basically, out of the MMO's that are legitimately playable today, you'd rank WoW higher than ESO in immersion?
I stopped playing WoW shortly after the release of WoTLK in 08 or 09, so my opinion on WoW at this point is pretty much about another game entirely.Edited by Sallington on July 16, 2015 5:49PMDaggerfall Covenant
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✭the full vision of what the game was supposed to be is finally realized.
Taken at base value, it's a true statement. We're finally getting the content advertised at prior to launch.0 -
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