No... not really if people choose to not upgrade the game with dlc is not p2w it's how mmos work like wow just because I didn't buy mist of Pandora and got to lvl 90 and every one else did doesn't make it pay to win because I'm still lvl 80 and choose to be so. and xp pots are easily obtained through in game resources so no its not pay too win

krayiss wrote: »

This started in the comments of another thread but was off topic. So decided to move it here.

Do you guys feel Imperial City is P2W?

"Games that let you buy better gear or allow you to make better items then everyone else at a faster rate and then makes the game largely unbalanced even for people who have skill in the game without paying.
Dude, you've spent like 400 bucks on this game so you can beat everyone who hasn't spent any money. Pay-to-win noob!"

"23 completely new Veteran Rank 16 item sets, only available in Imperial City"

23 Super Powerful Sets no one else can get means you pay money to get better gear than everyone else and win right (partly a troll but thats how I read it)

Is ESO going to far into the P2W route, XP pots, Gear sets, max horses, potions, racial motifs!!

. <

---

World's smallest lol button.

krayiss wrote: »

Kloud wrote: »

No... not really if people choose to not upgrade the game with dlc is not p2w it's how mmos work like wow just because I didn't buy mist of Pandora and got to lvl 90 and every one else did doesn't make it pay to win because I'm still lvl 80 and choose to be so. and xp pots are easily obtained through in game resources so no its not pay too win

Imperial city you can get to V16 with or without buying it I think, the gear is lock behind a pay wall tho, didnt know if you understood.

But dlc is apart of the game if you don't get it then you choose not to have the full version and assess to the gear.. v16 gear is in not just in imp city certain sets are kinda like pvp gear vendor only get it in cryodiil

-_-

Yes, people who never buy any DLC will be at a disadvantage. The only way to avoid it would be giving all DLC content for free and it isn't an option for obvious reasons. Luckily, you can still use v16 gear, you just won't have access to ALL item sets. They may or may not be "super powerful", we don't know yet. In any case, buying the DLC won't automatically make anyone win anything.

Most of the stuff from IC (i.e. everything that isn't BOP) can be used by anyone. You may not be able to enter IC yourself if you didn't buy the expansion, but you can still use the gear other players bring from there.

I never understood people think call a game pay 2 win when it is obvious it is not even remotely so.

For starters if you were a subscriber for the first year you were awarded enough crowns on conversion to outright buy this DLC for no out of pocket cost.

Secondly, the Crown to In game gold conversion rate is roughly ~ 48,000 gold per 1000 crowns. (Calculated by comparing cost of Exp Pots with Exp Scrolls). Basically if you understand this and you spend 1000 crowns on Exp scrolls you're a moron as you can get much more gold for much less $$$ from gold trading sites if you need gold.

So it boils down to the only thing you should be spending crowns on is DLC packs and most of us should have enough crowns saved up to buy the next 2 DLCs and I doubt the game will last much longer than that anyways. If you spent all your crowns on carebear costumes and ponies well that's your own damn fault.

/endtopic