$25 for IC DLC: Fair or Overpriced?

Poltron · July 2015

Fair

Fair.

Gaming is for me the cheapest entertainment $/hours. This game is incredibly well done for the measly 60$ I've already paid.

Giving them another 20$ for, let's say 20 hours of content (should be higher than that anyway with replay value) is, again, cheaper than whatever I can buy as art entertainment, be it a good book or a movie in theater.

Now, seeing new movies every week may feel new and exciting every time, but the $$ is going out of your wallet too. If you play 2 hours a night for a week in this new DLC, you made your money back and should feel satisfied.

Elsonso · July 2015

Fair

I am seeing a large amount of content, new styles, new dungeons, new bosses, and probably three times the space that actually can fit on that island. Definitely worth the money and definitely a new hotbed of activity. I seriously expect that anyone who does not buy access (ESO Plus or Crowns) and spends any time in Cyrodiil or end-game content will probably end up buying it.

idk · July 2015

Fair

$25 compared to the sub cost makes this an extremely cheap dlc. Cannot see how anyone could argue otherwise except those who kept their subs all these months with no content release.

slipHAZARD · July 2015

Fair

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Korozenn wrote: »

It is 5,500 Crowns = $39.99. That's the best deal you'll find on the Crown Store atm.
IC is 2,500 Crowns = ~$18.00.

It is most definitely not $20 or $25. I would say it is reasonable for newer players. For us veteran players that have been here since beta and early access/launch, we should be getting a discounted price (at the very least) on Imperial City and Orsinium.

I get what you're saying, but you are wrong. The DLC is $24.99.

For some one who just wants to buy the stand alone DLC, meaning, they don't care about crowns, they don't care about crown store purchases such as Mounts and etc (such as myself). The bare minimum some one has to pay is $24.99 for the 3000 crowns bundle. Now sure you can get a better deal on CROWNS by paying $39.99 for 5,500. But that doesn't translate to "IC is 2,500 Crowns = ~$18.00."

With that argument one could say (if there was such a bundle) 10,000 Crowns for only $69.99 is the best deal because that makes IC = $15 in relative terms.

Robbmrp · July 2015

Fair

Snit wrote: »

You can quibble that the price could or should be five or six dollars cheaper, or even a bit more expensive. But it's certainly not a shocker.

$ 49.99 would have been out of line.

I agree completely with that. $50 for Imp City would have been a very bad deal considering it's opening a part of an existing zone. If they had a whole new zone like Wrothgar also, as well as a bunch of new group dungeons, trials and loot then I would totally pay $50 for it. As it is now, the price is justified imo for what we get. It's only $5-$7 more than a monthly Sub would be, anyone who's been paying the monthly sub and cancelled it should be grateful at this price. You should already have crowns that you can use to buy this also.

ElricFrancis · July 2015

Overpriced

From what I heard it's overpriced because people trying to do pve objectives will be griefed to hell and gone. Little reason for PvErs to even show up. Not to mention it seems overall VERY small. Unless I hear there is more not worth even buying it.

The game needs real content/expansions not half finished content.

Korozenn · July 2015

@Attorneyatlawl and I have both went into massive detail regarding this already. This is the best future-proof plan you can go with for DLC, and it is also the cheapest, most reasonable solution for anyone wanting to get Crowns for DLC at this present point in the game.

If you want to read more into the logistics behind this:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/195852/crown-store-dlc-short-term-and-long-term-money-saving-strategies

By all means, if you want to waste your money, you can go ahead. No one is stopping you. We're just providing you with the best money saving option there is.

slipHAZARD · July 2015

Fair

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

This is barely a fair price. I think $20 would be right on the mark to be honest.

Excellent! Because it costs ~$18.18 when buying the right crown pack .

Wow it's only $18.18!? And you're telling me all I need to do is spend $39.99 for 5,500 Crowns!? Wow think of the savings!

or better yet one could say.....

https://youtu.be/TobEiGVwoI8?t=54

Defilted · July 2015

Fair

I work for a Company that creates and supports software for millions of customers and I can say that is way beyond fair to charge 25 dollars.

There is so much time and resources that goes into creating/testing and distributing then supporting any software. I really cannot believe how cheap game software is.

bigbri2k5 · July 2015

Overpriced

Sharee wrote: »

It is true that you cannot buy 2500 crowns, the closest is 3000 which leaves you with 500 you don't need right now.

However, keep in mind that another expansion is planned before the end of the year, and it's the PvE-centric Wrothgar that you most likely will be interested in, being a PvE player, so those 500 crowns won't be completely wasted.

That makes it slightly more interesting. Are there any confirmed plans/details for Wrothgar this year or is it just a case of them hoping it will be out?

Sharee · July 2015

Fair

slipHAZARD wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

This is barely a fair price. I think $20 would be right on the mark to be honest.

Excellent! Because it costs ~$18.18 when buying the right crown pack .

Wow it's only $18.18!? And you're telling me all I need to do is spend $39.99 for 5,500 Crowns!? Wow think of the savings!

For someone who plans to buy any future DLC beyond this - yes, think of the savings.

Docmandu · July 2015

Fair

Romo wrote: »

it would seem like and extrmely bad business move to make people pay for something they have no control over getting into. Although still plausible. i just dont see that happening.

And why is that?! There's 3 sides at war, so your side not always having access to a resource makes sense. Also we know too little about how it all works to make blanket statements like some people do in the thread.

Maybe the 100% PvE area's can be accessed from the PvE mainland without going through the sewer access in Cyrodiil. Then people that want to absolutely avoid PvP can still access a large part of the DLC, they just have to let other people battle to open the access (maybe you can contribute to the effort by giving us PVP'ers free potions :P )

Also I don't see why they can't make DLC's that are not for the entire playerbase.. ie. Orsinium is probably going to be 100% PvE, which is of no use to PvP'ers.. doubt the PvP'ers will complain much about it.. if you don't like the DLC, nobody says you HAVE to get it. (granted this is not entirely true, since they also introduce new gear in the DLC, which is probably BoP, so only way to get it is to play the content)

Anyway.. think it's a little early to decide if the DLC is something you will like / hate at this point in time.

ThisOnePosts · July 2015

Fair

It's definitely a fair price. The only thing that's puzzling are the prices of everything else in the Crown Store. Mounts for 1,200-3,000 crowns when dlc is 2,500 (which is fair for the DLC)... does not make sense. Outfits for 1,000 crowns? The cost of some of those potions? I mean, I'm guilty as the next person of throwing money at the Crown Store (not for potions/motifs... I have all those from in-game.. well the in-game versions of them).. but more mounts than I'll ever use, pets, etc... but the pricing scale is WAY off.

Farorin · July 2015

I think it is a fair price for DLC in general, but it is over priced considering how much they stuffed us long term PC players around between then and now.

Grimnaur · July 2015

Overpriced

Well, I don't like PVP in general, and I hate PVPVE. Especially when you can get looted of things by gankers or people in big zergs. I do understand that a lot of people want this type of game play, but it's not for me. So 2,500 crowns for 2 dungeons isn't worth it to me. I am actually probably not even gonna buy this DLC. I will save my money for more PVE content. I like the expansion of the VR levels and better gear, but I really thought there was going to be more PVE content. I don't want to be fighting a monster and as soon as i kill it, someone come up and gank me and loot me. I quit playing Aion after level 25 because of this type of gameplay.

Vorpal_Spork · July 2015

Overpriced

I remember when we got expansions that nearly doubled the amount of content in a game for not much more than that price. You guys are just used to being abused and have a bad case of Stockholm syndrome.

Turelus · July 2015

Fair

It's basically what I thought it would be and see no issues with it.

I'm an ESO Plus member so I don't need to pay that cost any way.

Audigy · July 2015

Overpriced

I think it depends on who you are.

Are 25 bucks a lot of money? Well they are if you still study or have a minimum wage job and come from a country that doesn't pay in hard dollars or euro.

Anyone else should easily be able to afford 25 bucks, its about what you have to pay to watch a movie in the cinema or entering a dance club in town. Heck, some cocktails already cost 15 bucks or more

Besides that, everyone who was subbed since day one until the transition happened, should have about 3500 crowns now so the DLC will be free.

What it comes to in the end is, if the DLC is worth it for yourself and that's a decision which everyone has to make for him / herself and therefore decide if its overpriced or not.
To me spending my crowns on something like dungeons or "gear updates" is not really appealing, but I sure would use my crowns for a decent housing DLC as this is what I am interested in.

Its like with alcohol or cigarettes, some people spend hundreds of dollars on it every month, others however would even think 1 buck is too much for that stuff.

In general however we can say that the days when additional content was handed out for free are sadly over, EA and Valve let their customers pay for everything extra these days and if ZOS goes the same road then I am sure they have their reasons for this as well.

As far I know, Blizzard is the only company that still hands out things for free, even their expansion packs, which is quite a big thing if you consider that many people always blame Blizzard for being greedy

It will be interesting to see how many people actually pay for the DLC and if future DLC´s will cost the same, less or even more money.

Tabbycat · July 2015

Overpriced

I worry that if they are charging that much for the IC DLC, how much more are they going to charge for Dark Brotherhood, Spellcrafting, Wrothgar, etc, that will have more content than this?

Ljungstroem · July 2015

Would it be worth buying this if I am currently only a V3?

I know I can access these things, but I mean mostly they are opening new stuff for higher level players?

So should I buy it or no? Regardless of the price?

Saturn · July 2015

Fair

JD2013 wrote: »

Considering it's $30 for a re-skinned horse, I think the price is very fair.

LOL. Spot on comparison!

Audigy · July 2015

Overpriced

Ljungstroem wrote: »

Would it be worth buying this if I am currently only a V3?

I know I can access these things, but I mean mostly they are opening new stuff for higher level players?

So should I buy it or no? Regardless of the price?

You need to be level 10 to enter the new area, so in theory you can play the DLC.

Imperial City DLC Game Pack Features & Content

With the purchase of the Imperial City DLC game pack, you get access to the full Imperial City zone. That includes the following:
•All content is available to players that are level 10 and up
•A brand new PvP/PvE space, including the six Imperial City Districts
•New quests and key characters within the Imperial City
•One new Imperial City PvP Public Dungeon: The Imperial Sewers
•Two new PvE Imperial City group dungeons with Normal and Veteran versions: White-Gold Tower and Imperial City Prison
•The Tel Var Stone system
•23 completely new Veteran Rank 16 item sets, only available in Imperial City
•Treasure Vaults that contain new Veteran Rank 16 set jewelry and a chance for even rarer finds
•Xivkyn racial motif style
•New collectibles only available in Imperial City (pets, polymorphs, and a costume)

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2015/07/10/imperial-city-launch-details

Leandor · July 2015

Missing Option: idgaf

Godthab · July 2015

Fair

Decent pricing, in my view.

FancyTuna8 · July 2015

Fair

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Its 25. There is no 20 dollar Crown Package option. Anyone that wants this will have to spend the extra five bucks for it.

They gave us all 500 crowns free. So it is $15, since you can get 1500 crowns for that. That seems to fit your accounting style here.

Folkb · July 2015

For this crap game? They should pay me $25 to play IC.

RadicalSpirit · July 2015

Well, consider this.

The biggest scum of a publisher in the market (Activision) charges roughly that for their DLCs, and the next Destiny DLC will be $39.99.

Conversely, if you look at one of the more loved developers right now, Rockstar Games, they have currently released every single DLC free of charge.

Who's doing it right? Well RG broke sales records for entertainment products, and were making something like $30mil a month from in game optional purchases, whereas Destiny & CoD have not come anywhere near that.

All DLC should be free, especially with a micro-transaction model and RG are showing other Developers the way forward, greedy f*cks.

Ljungstroem · July 2015

Audigy wrote: »

Ljungstroem wrote: »

Would it be worth buying this if I am currently only a V3?

I know I can access these things, but I mean mostly they are opening new stuff for higher level players?

So should I buy it or no? Regardless of the price?

You need to be level 10 to enter the new area, so in theory you can play the DLC.

Imperial City DLC Game Pack Features & Content

With the purchase of the Imperial City DLC game pack, you get access to the full Imperial City zone. That includes the following:
•All content is available to players that are level 10 and up
•A brand new PvP/PvE space, including the six Imperial City Districts
•New quests and key characters within the Imperial City
•One new Imperial City PvP Public Dungeon: The Imperial Sewers
•Two new PvE Imperial City group dungeons with Normal and Veteran versions: White-Gold Tower and Imperial City Prison
•The Tel Var Stone system
•23 completely new Veteran Rank 16 item sets, only available in Imperial City
•Treasure Vaults that contain new Veteran Rank 16 set jewelry and a chance for even rarer finds
•Xivkyn racial motif style
•New collectibles only available in Imperial City (pets, polymorphs, and a costume)

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2015/07/10/imperial-city-launch-details

I know and I have read it, but it seems like the most things will be for high level players.. I don't wanna feel like I have nothing to do in there just because I can't do all that high level stuff, thats what I am worried about.

RadicalSpirit · July 2015

Audigy wrote: »

I think it depends on who you are.

Are 25 bucks a lot of money? Well they are if you still study or have a minimum wage job and come from a country that doesn't pay in hard dollars or euro.

Anyone else should easily be able to afford 25 bucks, its about what you have to pay to watch a movie in the cinema or entering a dance club in town. Heck, some cocktails already cost 15 bucks or more

Besides that, everyone who was subbed since day one until the transition happened, should have about 3500 crowns now so the DLC will be free.

What it comes to in the end is, if the DLC is worth it for yourself and that's a decision which everyone has to make for him / herself and therefore decide if its overpriced or not.
To me spending my crowns on something like dungeons or "gear updates" is not really appealing, but I sure would use my crowns for a decent housing DLC as this is what I am interested in.

Its like with alcohol or cigarettes, some people spend hundreds of dollars on it every month, others however would even think 1 buck is too much for that stuff.

In general however we can say that the days when additional content was handed out for free are sadly over, EA and Valve let their customers pay for everything extra these days and if ZOS goes the same road then I am sure they have their reasons for this as well.

As far I know, Blizzard is the only company that still hands out things for free, even their expansion packs, which is quite a big thing if you consider that many people always blame Blizzard for being greedy

It will be interesting to see how many people actually pay for the DLC and if future DLC´s will cost the same, less or even more money.

They're not over.

Rockstar has made sure that every single DLC pack was free... and they have released far more content than any MMO in the last 18 months, and also made a LOT more money.

It is still possible, and still done, and Rockstar is showing them how, hopefully this will help change those thieves at EA and Activision.

Lleksu · July 2015

Fair

I think it's fair

... however, sat next to the Frostmare, that make the fancy horse skin seem greatly OVER priced!

I do still think my ice horse is 'cool' and I still love it, but I feel a bit ripped off now. Oh well, live and learn