easy way to get people started on CP.

dsalter · July 2015

what if Cadwells Silver and Cold both reward you with 100CP but not when you have over 300(and can only reach 350 via this method) and only once per account, this would encourage some reason to go through them and help newbies catchup. maybe even start VR1 with 50points.

Sithisvoid · July 2015

Sounds pretty good but maybe a bit high. Maybe other stuff can reward something like 10cp a shot like vet dungeon dailies and stuff up to whatever is the max CP at the time IE whatever the max player has is the limit.

PBpsy · July 2015

Yey . What an awesome idea . Who wouldn't want yet another long pointless quest grind or as I see it the most mindless kind of grind?

Maybe those people that already have more than 1 character with Silver +gold completed and do not have 300 points.

Tessie · July 2015

Accelerated earning may be a better approach than giving them. As an alternative, a daily repeatable quest that rewards a single CP that can only be run on accounts below a certain threshold.

dsalter · July 2015

PBpsy wrote: »

Yey . What an awesome idea . Who wouldn't want yet another long pointless quest grind or as I see it the most mindless kind of grind?

Maybe those people that already have more than 1 character with Silver +gold completed and do not have 300 points.

the idea was to assist newbies not grinders. they'd be one shot off CP's to assist new players in getting to the 300cp starting cp to avoid the crappy first steps of imbalance. this would only be a temperary fix of course untill people start reaching the 1200 mark.

Sithisvoid wrote: »

Sounds pretty good but maybe a bit high. Maybe other stuff can reward something like 10cp a shot like vet dungeon dailies and stuff up to whatever is the max CP at the time IE whatever the max player has is the limit.

reason it's this high currently is most people who played when CP first hit (without constant grinding) have about 500-650cp on average, most new players barely hit 70-80 by the time they hit vr14. the limiters are there to stop it being milked by people already over the 350 threshhold for the booster CP

King Bozo · July 2015

Should this be the case they owe me champ points. I have done silver and gold for 4 vet toons.

dsalter · July 2015

King Bozo wrote: »

Should this be the case they owe me champ points. I have done silver and gold for 4 vet toons.

as long as your under 300points then yes, but they wont go over 350.

HungryHobo · July 2015

Have the enlightenment stack for more than 12 days. Also, have an enlightened pool retro-active to the beginning of the CS. So if someone starts a new char now, and hits 50, they get however many months worth of enlightened. Fairly simple system to "Build"... more like tweak.

asteldian · July 2015

dsalter wrote: »

PBpsy wrote: »

Yey . What an awesome idea . Who wouldn't want yet another long pointless quest grind or as I see it the most mindless kind of grind?

Maybe those people that already have more than 1 character with Silver +gold completed and do not have 300 points.

the idea was to assist newbies not grinders. they'd be one shot off CP's to assist new players in getting to the 300cp starting cp to avoid the crappy first steps of imbalance. this would only be a temperary fix of course untill people start reaching the 1200 mark.

Sithisvoid wrote: »

Sounds pretty good but maybe a bit high. Maybe other stuff can reward something like 10cp a shot like vet dungeon dailies and stuff up to whatever is the max CP at the time IE whatever the max player has is the limit.

reason it's this high currently is most people who played when CP first hit (without constant grinding) have about 500-650cp on average, most new players barely hit 70-80 by the time they hit vr14. the limiters are there to stop it being milked by people already over the 350 threshhold for the booster CP

Most people who did not constantly grind most certainly don't have 500-600. No one I actually know (and all were vr14 when cp came) have even 350 and some of these guys play A LOT. I admitedly have cut down on my play quite a bit in the last month, I haven't even got 200.

Don't get me wrong, I know there are those with crazy amounts, but 500 is a major overestimate for the average non grinder.

PBpsy · July 2015

dsalter wrote: »

PBpsy wrote: »

Yey . What an awesome idea . Who wouldn't want yet another long pointless quest grind or as I see it the most mindless kind of grind?

Maybe those people that already have more than 1 character with Silver +gold completed and do not have 300 points.

the idea was to assist newbies not grinders. they'd be one shot off CP's to assist new players in getting to the 300cp starting cp to avoid the crappy first steps of imbalance. this would only be a temperary fix of course untill people start reaching the 1200 mark.

Sithisvoid wrote: »

Sounds pretty good but maybe a bit high. Maybe other stuff can reward something like 10cp a shot like vet dungeon dailies and stuff up to whatever is the max CP at the time IE whatever the max player has is the limit.

reason it's this high currently is most people who played when CP first hit (without constant grinding) have about 500-650cp on average, most new players barely hit 70-80 by the time they hit vr14. the limiters are there to stop it being milked by people already over the 350 threshhold for the booster CP

No it would only require people like me with 3 Vr14s 2 Golds and 4 Silver and ~200CPs make another character just to advance. And sorry doing all those stupid thinly veiled fetch quests again and again for XP is forced grinding and for some people is even more annoying than killing endless hordes of mobs.
It would also be extremely annoying for people that want to rank up by PVP.

The minimum 32.5 CP you get from leveling to Vr14 is enough. It can be increased for low ranks and CP numbers but hiding progression behind quests is a terrible idea.

Yinmaigao · July 2015

The biggest problem is that the people who are far behind have no "worthwhile" way to catch up (lack of content).

So the only option is to grind; problem is, grinding is tedious, and the "good spots" are already over run with the people they are trying to catch up to.

Left with this daunting task, many just throw in the towel.

dsalter · July 2015

PBpsy wrote: »

dsalter wrote: »

PBpsy wrote: »

Yey . What an awesome idea . Who wouldn't want yet another long pointless quest grind or as I see it the most mindless kind of grind?

Maybe those people that already have more than 1 character with Silver +gold completed and do not have 300 points.

the idea was to assist newbies not grinders. they'd be one shot off CP's to assist new players in getting to the 300cp starting cp to avoid the crappy first steps of imbalance. this would only be a temperary fix of course untill people start reaching the 1200 mark.

Sithisvoid wrote: »

Sounds pretty good but maybe a bit high. Maybe other stuff can reward something like 10cp a shot like vet dungeon dailies and stuff up to whatever is the max CP at the time IE whatever the max player has is the limit.

reason it's this high currently is most people who played when CP first hit (without constant grinding) have about 500-650cp on average, most new players barely hit 70-80 by the time they hit vr14. the limiters are there to stop it being milked by people already over the 350 threshhold for the booster CP

No it would only require people like me with 3 Vr14s 2 Golds and 4 Silver and ~200CPs make another character just to advance. And sorry doing all those stupid thinly veiled fetch quests again and again for XP is forced grinding and for some people is even more annoying than killing endless hordes of mobs.

i already mentioned above it would be retroactive. but not give you over the 350 threshhold.

Rosveen · July 2015

I'd be in favor of a catch up mechanic not tied in any way to Cadwell's Silver/Gold. Ideally, Silver and Gold should be completely optional and easily skipped with alts. It's an awful questline and ZOS should feel bad for forcing us through it.

PBpsy · July 2015

dsalter wrote: »

PBpsy wrote: »

dsalter wrote: »

PBpsy wrote: »

Yey . What an awesome idea . Who wouldn't want yet another long pointless quest grind or as I see it the most mindless kind of grind?

Maybe those people that already have more than 1 character with Silver +gold completed and do not have 300 points.

the idea was to assist newbies not grinders. they'd be one shot off CP's to assist new players in getting to the 300cp starting cp to avoid the crappy first steps of imbalance. this would only be a temperary fix of course untill people start reaching the 1200 mark.

Sithisvoid wrote: »

Sounds pretty good but maybe a bit high. Maybe other stuff can reward something like 10cp a shot like vet dungeon dailies and stuff up to whatever is the max CP at the time IE whatever the max player has is the limit.

reason it's this high currently is most people who played when CP first hit (without constant grinding) have about 500-650cp on average, most new players barely hit 70-80 by the time they hit vr14. the limiters are there to stop it being milked by people already over the 350 threshhold for the booster CP

No it would only require people like me with 3 Vr14s 2 Golds and 4 Silver and ~200CPs make another character just to advance. And sorry doing all those stupid thinly veiled fetch quests again and again for XP is forced grinding and for some people is even more annoying than killing endless hordes of mobs.

i already mentioned above it would be retroactive. but not give you over the 350 threshhold.

Oh that would work but ZOS. Doesn't do retroactive.

Smuggles · July 2015

As a casual player that occasionally pvp's, I have to say the cp gaining system is more than adequate. I've just turned vr5 at about halfway through silver and I have 31 cp. People should be rewarded for their time; the gains definitely don't need to be easier. Just my 2 pennies.