Best way to get Master Gold through PvP

qsnoopyjr · July 2015

Play on Haderus
Get into the top 2%
Switch to Chillrend.
Get into the top 2%
Switch to Azura Star
Get into the top 2%

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I saw in chat today, someone said he got masters gold and he only played on Azura Star 5 days... (30 day campaign)

Got me thinking, this is how you get maddddd Master Gold items.

I mean.. I look at EP dude Walks to L'Reh... 6.5 MILLION AP....
He could've
Played Haderus, get into top 2% EASILY
Played Chillrend before it ended, get into top 2% EASILY
If enough days to get into top 2% on Haderus play that again and get into top 2%
Switch to Azura Star get into top 2%.

His 6.5 MILLION AP could've got him over 10 MASTER GOLDS!!!

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It's not like they give people who stay on the campaign anything special.
Heck EP LOST that campaign too, I'm not even sure you get Masters GOLD for losing.
...
Still.
He could've got OVER 10 GOLD ITEMS.

I'm about to try this out right now, no idea why no one else does this.

NotSo · July 2015

I don't try this because I literally do not have the time to do it.

Robbmrp · July 2015

This just proves that the reward system is flawed. They should change the rating so that Master Loot only drops for you from one campaign.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler any truth that someone could actually do this?

ZOS_BrianWheeler · July 2015

As soon as you switch your home campaign, your leaderboard status and qualifications on any rewards for that campaign are wiped. You can only get rewards from 1 campaign.

Leandor · July 2015

I assume that OP means that one could first join the 7 day, get a top spot and the rewards, then after campaign end change to the 14 day, use the remaining week to get to top 2% and get the items, then after end change to 30-day and use the remaining time to get to a top spot to get the 5 golds there.

I doubt the feasibility of that theory, but with a good supporting group you could probably farm your way up there. Would be a massive group effort, though.

The_Saint · July 2015

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

As soon as you switch your home campaign, your leaderboard status and qualifications on any rewards for that campaign are wiped. You can only get rewards from 1 campaign.

you start in Haderus and play 7d, after reward switch to chillrend play till campaign ends-->reward and then go to the running 30d azura/thron. you will still have minimum 7d left in this campaign to come up in the 2% then reward again... its a hard program but possible

Cogo · July 2015

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

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I saw in chat today, someone said he got masters gold and he only played on Azura Star 5 days... (30 day campaign)

I think I heard this too. But wasn't it from this zone chat persons friend in a another alliance, who's sister heard from this guy she knows about a possible idea that was overheard by someone who tested the new lag potion from the crown store?

ZOS_BrianWheeler · July 2015

It is definitely in the realm of possibility to join a campaign near the end of it's duration and get rewards by getting the Tier 3 requirement and being in the winning Alliance (in the coming patch) or top tier leader-boards. You don't have to be in the campaign for the entire duration to qualify as noted with the Azura example, but we have discussed changing that. Nothing solid has come out of those discussions just yet however.

Valnas · July 2015

The point is that the elite groups are able to make enough ap in 7 days to hold the leaderboard on a 30 day campaign, encouraging said group to attack each leaderboard in that order, to capture all the rewards.

There will be off cycles of the lower duration servers that they miss obviously.

Tripwyr · July 2015

Having 6.5 million on Azura's does not mean you would have received the equivalent on other campaigns in the same period of time. For example, in 1 week's time I have only gotten 1.15 million on Haderus, despite having Emperor and not sleeping well. Normal humans have only 600k on Haderus.

Azura's Star is extremely good for farming due to the massive blue zerg population. Good guilds can farm 60+ guilds like Chuck Norris with only 12-16 players gaining massive AP. This is likely what Walks did.

AhPook_Is_Here · July 2015

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Play on Haderus
Get into the top 2%
Switch to Chillrend.
Get into the top 2%
Switch to Azura Star
Get into the top 2%

...
I saw in chat today, someone said he got masters gold and he only played on Azura Star 5 days... (30 day campaign)

Got me thinking, this is how you get maddddd Master Gold items.

I mean.. I look at EP dude Walks to L'Reh... 6.5 MILLION AP....
He could've
Played Haderus, get into top 2% EASILY
Played Chillrend before it ended, get into top 2% EASILY
If enough days to get into top 2% on Haderus play that again and get into top 2%
Switch to Azura Star get into top 2%.

His 6.5 MILLION AP could've got him over 10 MASTER GOLDS!!!

...
It's not like they give people who stay on the campaign anything special.
Heck EP LOST that campaign too, I'm not even sure you get Masters GOLD for losing.
...
Still.
He could've got OVER 10 GOLD ITEMS.

I'm about to try this out right now, no idea why no one else does this.

I would have gone with do 2-3 30 min vdsa runs and get ~1/day.

SturgeHammer · July 2015

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

As soon as you switch your home campaign, your leaderboard status and qualifications on any rewards for that campaign are wiped. You can only get rewards from 1 campaign.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler Not sure if you are aware of this, but this doesn't appear to be true for characters leveling out of Blackwater Blade. Myself and others who have had multiple characters level out have gotten master loot after leveling out mid campaign while in the top 2%. Upon leveling out the home campaign is cleared, and I believe the character name is removed from the leaderboards completely, but the loot still arrives at end of campaign if you met the tier 3 and top 2% requirement.

This might need to be investigated before adding any features that allow players to clear their home campaign.

Ezareth · July 2015

I've got Gold Haderus for only playing two days, top 2% in Chillrend playing only 1 day (#2 DC right now). I can easily see hoping between these campaigns for the end tier rewards although I've only done it in two campaigns as the 30 days campaigns have historically been zergy lagfests.

ZOS_BrianWheeler · July 2015

In the special case of leaving a non-vet Campaign by leveling out of it, it is intentional to get your rewards since you could not stick around to get them as you can't enter that type of Campaign anymore.

WebBull · July 2015

6.5M AP = you gave up your life for one month for some video game weapons. Cheers, you win.

Sacadon · July 2015

ZOS, incentivize the behavior you want.

Specifically, allow people to select the type of master weapon they seek in advance of pursuing campaign leader boards.

Given the rewards are bound, players are incentivized to farm per-se because more frequently than not, they receive a reward that does not compliment their play style.

Kupoking · July 2015

People are able to do this at expense of having time off the game i.e. job, friends, family...

If you are sorta casual it is not possible. Only guy I know who can do it is unemployed and has 3 vr14 chars in 3 different home.

SturgeHammer · July 2015

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

In the special case of leaving a non-vet Campaign by leveling out of it, it is intentional to get your rewards since you could not stick around to get them as you can't enter that type of Campaign anymore.

Cool, glad to know this is intended. It's kinda like receiving a graduation present.

Draxys · July 2015

Sacadon wrote: »

ZOS, incentivize the behavior you want.

Specifically, allow people to select the type of master weapon they seek in advance of pursuing campaign leader boards.

Given the rewards are bound, players are incentivized to farm per-se because more frequently than not, they receive a reward that does not compliment their play style.

Token system or something of the sort. Now I'm sounding like Agrippa....

Leandor · July 2015

Draxys wrote: »

Sacadon wrote: »

ZOS, incentivize the behavior you want.

Specifically, allow people to select the type of master weapon they seek in advance of pursuing campaign leader boards.

Given the rewards are bound, players are incentivized to farm per-se because more frequently than not, they receive a reward that does not compliment their play style.

Token system or something of the sort. Now I'm sounding like Agrippa....

One weapon per token, one to five tokens (depending on duration) a campaign? All for it.

andy_s · July 2015

This is probably the most ineffective way to get master weapons I'd say

Once a month one can complete VDSA weekly with 8 chars in 1 day with a good group, and all other days just do farm runs with any group.

P.S. 6.5mil AP aren't worth it.

WhiskeyJac · July 2015

I don't think they will implement token system , the only reason ppl keep grinding the same stuff again and again and bear with the lag and try to be on leaderboard is cause of this rng system , the moment they can buy everything they want directly , they will buy it use it and be done with the game

Snit · July 2015

This appears to be an example of someone who plays for 50+ hours/ week. While that's interesting, it's also an outlier. Such extremes should be given little weight in discussions about loot, balance, etc.

AhPook_Is_Here · July 2015

And if you don't have time to PVP 50 hours a week you can just get a master weapon in VDSA in 30 minutes.

Sacadon · July 2015

Draxys wrote: »

Sacadon wrote: »

ZOS, incentivize the behavior you want.

Specifically, allow people to select the type of master weapon they seek in advance of pursuing campaign leader boards.

Given the rewards are bound, players are incentivized to farm per-se because more frequently than not, they receive a reward that does not compliment their play style.

Token system or something of the sort. Now I'm sounding like Agrippa....

I think that token system would be great, but guessing the dev cycles would put this pretty far out.

Maybe in the short-term, just let us specify a reward type and when rewards are distributed this field is queried and the desired weapon type is distributed, if no value then you get the same as we've been getting. To simplify the complexity of change they could make it account wide for now.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler, I know this is not entirely your area. This seems like a low effort value-add for players. Please consider.

Draxys · July 2015

WhiskeyJac wrote: »

I don't think they will implement token system , the only reason ppl keep grinding the same stuff again and again and bear with the lag and try to be on leaderboard is cause of this rng system , the moment they can buy everything they want directly , they will buy it use it and be done with the game

I agree that they like RNG because it will keep people around longer than otherwise, but they could at least give us sets and things that are useful for something, some of those reward sets are literally just a chance to get a purple upgrade mat.

Sacadon · July 2015

WhiskeyJac wrote: »

I don't think they will implement token system , the only reason ppl keep grinding the same stuff again and again and bear with the lag and try to be on leaderboard is cause of this rng system , the moment they can buy everything they want directly , they will buy it use it and be done with the game

I really do not believe this is the case at all, but it would not be the first time I was wrong. Most PvP because they enjoy it and tolerate lag only when they have to. Some push for emp and we all like campaign rewards, but I think very few pursue campaign rewards solely.

Prizax · July 2015

30 days just for 4 master weapons is not even worth it, just do vDSA several times, you will get way more master weapons, it is very easy now thanks to CP...

CN_Daniel · July 2015

Tripwyr wrote: »

Having 6.5 million on Azura's does not mean you would have received the equivalent on other campaigns in the same period of time. For example, in 1 week's time I have only gotten 1.15 million on Haderus, despite having Emperor and not sleeping well. Normal humans have only 600k on Haderus.

Azura's Star is extremely good for farming due to the massive blue zerg population. Good guilds can farm 60+ guilds like Chuck Norris with only 12-16 players gaining massive AP. This is likely what Walks did.

Oh god, the pain is real! lol

reften · July 2015

I PVP a LOT (at least a lot in the eyes of my wife, not compared to the top 2%!) and I think once I was in the top 10%...but never close to the top 2%. Sucks.

Can't imagine getting into the top 2% on azuras while only playing there for a few days. That's crazy

CN_Daniel · July 2015

reften wrote: »

I PVP a LOT (at least a lot in the eyes of my wife, not compared to the top 2%!) and I think once I was in the top 10%...but never close to the top 2%. Sucks.

Can't imagine getting into the top 2% on azuras while only playing there for a few days. That's crazy

Just gotta farm it hommie. One of our best went from #1, dropped the campaign, and finished like 20th while only playing there 3 days....In a 30 day campaign.