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Please Nerf Puncturing Sweep

  • Junipus
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    On my way to Dragonclaw last night, got a bit lost and ended up in Bruma. Thought to myself, while I'm here I'll do a bit of ganking to pass the time.

    Found an AD templar and managed to get a poor snipe off on him going past the dolmen there so stealthed and waited to see if he turned up again doing his questing. Camped the corner by the main building in Bruma and waited.

    Next thing I know, a full eye and suddenly biting jab spam up the ass. Despite using my NB skills to the best effect I got my ass thoroughly handed to me by him.

    Am I annoyed? No. Do I want a nerf to it? No. Do I complain like a 5 year old about it on the forums? No.

    I learn. I learn from my mistakes and I learn how to counter biting jabs and what works and what doesn't.
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  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Akinos wrote: »
    So I'm trying to follow this. Every one is ripping on the guy for asking for a nerf on a skill and saying the imfamous L2P and telling him that there playing DK wrong and that the only way to play DK is with a magical build. Welp 2 sides to this thread.

    1st don't scream nerf cause you get killed by one skilled that's being spammed over and over that's ha;f the skills and all skills be weapon and class base all need reworked.

    2nd this is a Elder Scrolls game the guy doesnt have to play how you want it's how he wants to play and if he doesn't wanna be a magical DK then so be it. Don't act like smug elitest and tell them how to play that just makes you the L2P noob cause were would half the player base be ( reminder these are the ones also screaming L2P at every one) with out youtube and cookie cutter builds? No where cause they can take the time or effort to actually learn the game and use what cards the have in there hands on there own. Side note PvP would be alot more fair and there be alot less exploits and crys for nerfs.
    Tell that to the guy who started this silly thread.

    I'm telling it to any one who reads. Cause you get killed by a spam attack doesn't mean start screaming nerf. All skills need re worked to either be nerfed, tweeked, or loved.

    But at the same time I'm telling that it gives no rights to any one to start screaming learn to play just cause he didn't kill the guy by using the pyromancer DK build or abusing the infa dodge roll cause again this is a Elder Scrolls game. He can play how ever he want and if he doesn't wanna be a infa dodge pyromancer then so be it that's not all DK is any more. Though so many believe that.

    Also as my last opinion any one who screams L2P odds are the ones who really need to learn to play cause again odds are there just using some one else cookie cutter build and I'm pretty sure using some one else build that they took the time to study and points to make doesn't mean you learned to play the game. Just mean you're lazy and didn't wanna take the time to study your options.
  • Tors
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    BuggeX wrote: »
    BTW, which temp are using puncturing-sweep? i meen he prob has light armor and full magicka and goes in meele range?
    wy dont just Jesus beam?

    Not actually tried it? Just got jesus beamed when you are at 20% and screamed NE$RF!!!!
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  • BuggeX
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    Tors wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    BTW, which temp are using puncturing-sweep? i meen he prob has light armor and full magicka and goes in meele range?
    wy dont just Jesus beam?

    Not actually tried it? Just got jesus beamed when you are at 20% and screamed NE$RF!!!!

    i scream attleast 5times "nerf this f****** s********* Skill" in ts every day lol.

    edit: not becaus itsop. becaus ist bugged and consume Stamina on block 5 times each beam,
    Edited by BuggeX on July 13, 2015 2:46PM
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  • QueenAyrenn
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    Normally, I'm completely opposed to the caps lock button, but I'll make an exception here... LOL!

    Strange, everyone seems to say every other class they play against needs nerfed.
    "Except the story about the bear. That one's true."

    - Queen Ayrenn
  • BBSooner
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    Please buff Puncturing Sweep by removing the CC from the skill.
    Edited by BBSooner on July 13, 2015 2:55PM
  • Lettigall
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    Akinos wrote: »
    So I'm trying to follow this. Every one is ripping on the guy for asking for a nerf on a skill and saying the imfamous L2P and telling him that there playing DK wrong and that the only way to play DK is with a magical build. Welp 2 sides to this thread.

    1st don't scream nerf cause you get killed by one skilled that's being spammed over and over that's ha;f the skills and all skills be weapon and class base all need reworked.

    2nd this is a Elder Scrolls game the guy doesnt have to play how you want it's how he wants to play and if he doesn't wanna be a magical DK then so be it. Don't act like smug elitest and tell them how to play that just makes you the L2P noob cause were would half the player base be ( reminder these are the ones also screaming L2P at every one) with out youtube and cookie cutter builds? No where cause they can take the time or effort to actually learn the game and use what cards the have in there hands on there own. Side note PvP would be alot more fair and there be alot less exploits and crys for nerfs.
    Tell that to the guy who started this silly thread.

    I'm telling it to any one who reads. Cause you get killed by a spam attack doesn't mean start screaming nerf. All skills need re worked to either be nerfed, tweeked, or loved.

    But at the same time I'm telling that it gives no rights to any one to start screaming learn to play just cause he didn't kill the guy by using the pyromancer DK build or abusing the infa dodge roll cause again this is a Elder Scrolls game. He can play how ever he want and if he doesn't wanna be a infa dodge pyromancer then so be it that's not all DK is any more. Though so many believe that.

    Also as my last opinion any one who screams L2P odds are the ones who really need to learn to play cause again odds are there just using some one else cookie cutter build and I'm pretty sure using some one else build that they took the time to study and points to make doesn't mean you learned to play the game. Just mean you're lazy and didn't wanna take the time to study your options.

    You're right, OP can play however he wants but he really needs L2L(learn to lose)!
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  • Skwor
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    BBSooner wrote: »
    Please buff Puncturing Sweep by removing the CC from the skill.

    Please Please PLEASEEEEEE "NERF" Puncturing Sweep by removing the CC, the CC on Sweep is so op it should have been removed a long time ago!

    Seriously I am begging for this nerf, we really need it.

    Signed a Templar :)
    Edited by Skwor on July 13, 2015 3:02PM
  • Kupoking
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    No one should have a spammable ability that can STUN, HEAL and do a lot of DAMAGE at the same time in one ability. DK, Sorc or NB doesn't have it - neither should the templar.

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing and Profanity]

    Considering is a channeled ability that is easily avoidable and can easily stun through it, that it was nerfed already by providing cc immunity after the first stagger, which is the weakest cc in the game, and will be still nerfed a with the fifty percent less dmg and healing in pvp...

    YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING?
  • Mettaricana
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    lets buff it another 30% and give it a Dot also
  • Joy_Division
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    The OP must be a PVE boss.
    Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.
  • timidobserver
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    This thread proves that every skill in the game has at least one person that wants it nerfed. I wonder when that one guy that wants healing ritual nerfed will create his thread.
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  • demendred
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    @Tors Yeah, that too ;)

    @demendred Let me guess: the wings?^^

    Yes, I want them to work all the time, instead of having my buddy get the wing glitch.

    (I was also being a smart ass in my other post. I don't want either nerfed. Don't tell anyone.)
    Edited by demendred on July 13, 2015 3:43PM
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  • BurtFreeman
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    BuggeX wrote: »
    i love this bugged skill :)

    yes! i know it. :)
    i was meaning low level skill class, templar punctiring is the first skills, sorc encase is the second.
    dk petrify is almost at the end of the class, you have one target stonefist in the begin.
    Edited by BurtFreeman on July 13, 2015 3:48PM
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    "I agree that Templars are very diverse. But ur setup is too stand in the background for me. I like it get up in their face, and I know that isn't what temps are best at, but it's what I like. And sweeps is basically the only really good up close attack for temps. Hell, hell all my other close combat attacks are found in the sword and board skill line. And thinking about going 2 handed since they want to change the stam for blocking."

    I fight on the front lines plenty. The stam bar duel wield is built for close quarters and silver shards has almost 0 cast time. With that said, here is a real scenario that frequency happens. Two large PVP zergs battling to a stand still. I ride my horse to the very front line and spam rapid maneuvers twice so my teammates can use the speed buff to attack or retreat. Assuming we are attacking, I'll then hit my ultimate heal and allow my teammates Zerg to push toward for 6 to 8 seconds (an eternity in PVP). While doing this I can eat a direct hit from a ballista. This technique is something I use to get large groups through the Mage walls as well.

    There are very few situations that a Templar can't handle. The heavy armor/breath of life combo is great. Depending on the situation I can tank (no taunt though), heal, or even DPS. Sun Fire, for example increases my crit 1500 on the next hit. I usually 3 shot werewolves as well.
  • Vynist
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    How in the world can you ask for a nerf to Templars in PvP? I won't make a long post, but I would like to point out that outside of healer-tanks, Templars are the least played class in Cyrodiil....FOR A REASON.

    That said, I will continue playing my magicka Templar, amidst all the buffs and nerfs.
  • idk
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    Never had an issue with this. I assume the OP is talking pvp. Step aside. Block. Both work great for getting out of the damage. Heck, love to know what class you play so I can easily point out which skill of yours would be needed on the same day.


    Know a guy who complains about the OP Templars, NBs and DKs only to stand their shield stacking on his sorc and standing against 5+ when he is solo. They all die but he still complains how op they are anytime he gets killed by one. Lol
  • omni2015
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    yeah, it's op indeed
  • ch.ris317b14_ESO
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    Wait till he meets somebody with radiant destruction.....
  • Robbmrp
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    No one should have a spammable ability that can STUN, HEAL and do a lot of DAMAGE at the same time in one ability. DK, Sorc or NB doesn't have it - neither should the templar.

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing and Profanity]

    Yeah, in addition Nerf Snipe, Bats, Talons, Wrecking Blow, Steel Tornado, Shield Stacking, and give me a few and I'll think of some more :wink:
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  • grumlins
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    Actually no don't nerf anything. If anything they need to buff a few things like some vamp skills that heal and the poison shot or acid spread because there's some skills in the list that are basically completely useless at this point.
  • WillhelmBlack
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    This thread is absolutely hilarious. It's like he's a noob, yet he has 5 stars so he must have been around when Puncturing Sweep got nerfed, unless he's just one of those that posts in all the nerf threads. Which there are a lot of so could have got those 5 stars quite easily.

    Nerf Templar Puncturing Sweep in PvP. I heard it all now, I must have.
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    We all have our demons :smiley:
  • Ajaxduo
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    Smells like l2p. Roll dodge through the Templar, the ability is pretty weak sauce in comparison to say yeezus beam or steel tornado, etc. ^^
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  • TequilaFire
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    My Templar's lute has too many strings!
    Please nerf!
  • templesus
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    A DK crying nerf about a templar... Devs love DKs so i wouldnt be surprised if they listen to the OP's crybaby self who is obviously horrible at this game.
  • Shadesofkin
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    No one should have a spammable ability that can STUN, HEAL and do a lot of DAMAGE at the same time in one ability. DK, Sorc or NB doesn't have it - neither should the templar.

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing and Profanity]

    I have battle roar. I tend to consider that an even trade.
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  • Moonshadow66
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    This thread is absolutely hilarious. It's like he's a noob, yet he has 5 stars so he must have been around when Puncturing Sweep got nerfed, unless he's just one of those that posts in all the nerf threads. Which there are a lot of so could have got those 5 stars quite easily.

    Nerf Templar Puncturing Sweep in PvP. I heard it all now, I must have.

    The stars on the forum don't say much about the experience IN-game. For instance, I needed about 1 year to get the 5th, BUT I was playing 24/7 instead (ok, not that often or long, but the point is made, I guess^^). Others might have 5 stars in 1 month but aren't actually playing that often, so the experience is not the same. Someone could have 5 stars and not play the game at all, theoretically. Stars don't say much about the actual knowledge about the game and its skills, mechanics or other things ;)
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