Please Nerf Puncturing Sweep

Funkopotamus · July 2015

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

2nd this is a Elder Scrolls game the guy doesnt have to play how you want it's how he wants to play and if he doesn't wanna be a magical DK then so be it. Don't act like smug elitest and tell them how to play that just makes you the L2P noob cause were would half the player base be ( reminder these are the ones also screaming L2P at every one) with out youtube and cookie cutter builds? No where cause they can take the time or effort to actually learn the game and use what cards the have in there hands on there own. Side note PvP would be alot more fair and there be alot less exploits and crys for nerfs.

NO actually he "and you are the ones trying to tell everyone to "play the way you want them too! If a building is on fire do you keep running up into it and spitting on it? No you get the heck out of the way a let the right people handle it..

In this case it is a RANGED class. You should move onto something you can handle and help out in another fight.
Templars are not using "cookie cutter" builds. The are using the only build that is viable in PvP sadly lol.

Now if ZOS was not against Templars actually being a paladin melee class and wouldn't force Templars into being a healer build to actually be playable then you might have an argument here. Thank ZOS for this do not blame the player.

Septimus_Magna · July 2015

blabafat wrote: »

tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »

No one should have a spammable ability that can STUN, HEAL and do a fuckton of DAMAGE at the same time in one ability. DK, Sorc or NB doesn't have it - neither should the templar.

NBS Sorcs Templars don't get full resources after using an ultimate - neither should the DK

This will be adjusted in the upcoming content update, resource return will scale off the corresponding stat, not just max magicka.

tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »

Radiant Destruction is getting nerfed in Update 7. About time!

Radaint Destruction damage to high health target will be reduced, the first tick to low health targets will crit so the execute damage will increase. This will make it an even better execute but it will be worse for normal damage.

DaveTheMinion · July 2015

NURF groups of enemy in pvp!

it was a fine day, I had just spent the morning buffing my armour and sharpening my blades, I took a walk by the lake, it wasn't as if I had any plans, then I get a thought that was splashed across my screen saying that some thieving little bugger had tried to pinch our elder scroll!!! I jumped on my horse and without any thought to my own needs I rode straight to Cyrodiil

I could see the battle taking place on my map, so with lightening speed I rode like a possessed ghost rider into the battle, but it was too late, I had just made the mistake of a lifetime, I jumped from my steed only to realise I should have been inside the castle, and not in the middle of the attacking horde!!!

I awoke in a safe spawn place and thought, OMG that group definitely needs to be nurfed!!!

I haven't walked right for over a week

and all because I didn't pay attention to my surroundings.

Tors · July 2015

I think this guy may not have played since the last balance patch where they made the target immune to stun after one jabby jabby.

Also calling for nerfs on the lowest dps class in pvp is not going to get you many supporters on here.

I love jabby jabby myself, the average player is too stupid to move of out the way, so I can jabby jabby while drinking coffee and earn AP at the same time. Then again, If it was a DK he could just be scratchng his backside and eating cake while im drinking coffee. He just needs the coffee to run out then he wins

Ryuho · July 2015

Sorry haven't read all posts, but currently templar need a lot of fixes/buffs, there is several topics about it.

For me ZOS pls bring old biting jabs back!! I say NO to CC immunity after biting jabs!! Bring old blinding flashes back, was so cool as magicka melee templar to use that skill

tordr86b16_ESO · July 2015

The most irritating ability temps have right now is the bugged eclipse (probably unstable core), it causes my DK to run at lightning speeds which can end in my death (fall damage).

@ZOS_GinaBruno. Please have your team take a look at this, some geniuses are exploiting this in devles, DK's are basically free kills due to this bug.

Jolinius · July 2015

I dont think pvp is the problem with temps. But they are hands down the best class in pve. They have the best dps ,best heals and best tank....heal tank. Just annoys me when im on my nb stam dps struggling to pull 20k dps which is more than most nbs are pulling using a well thought out rotation and a templar can just spam biting jabs the whole time using one button and pull 28k to 32k dps.

P3ZZL3 · July 2015

^^ Clearly a Troll.

Maybe you would like to nerf light attack as well?

tordr86b16_ESO · July 2015

Jolinius wrote: »

I dont think pvp is the problem with temps. But they are hands down the best class in pve. They have the best dps ,best heals and best tank....heal tank. Just annoys me when im on my nb stam dps struggling to pull 20k dps which is more than most nbs are pulling using a well thought out rotation and a templar can just spam biting jabs the whole time using one button and pull 28k to 32k dps.

exactly. im pulling a measly 14k single target with my destro/destro build and the rotation for it is a hundred times more complex.

LoreRiley · July 2015

Wait? Templars are still nerfable?

BurtFreeman · July 2015

i'm playing with templar this days, agree, only with puncturing sweep you can soloing almost all enemies, and your health is always at 100%

so nerf it will be possible in 2 way and the skill will be still powerdull:
1. 50% less healing over the damage done
2. remove the knock back
cutting one of those and the skill will be still powerfull.

anyway all the classes have terrible balanced skills, so nerfing this will need to nerf cfrag for the sorc, .dragon blood for dk...

Paradox · July 2015

8m range, stun, conal AoE. Welcome to Jabs, where spamming this ability can get you 18k DPS or more, easily!

Moonshadow66 · July 2015

tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »

No one should have a spammable ability that can STUN, HEAL and do a lot of DAMAGE at the same time in one ability. DK, Sorc or NB doesn't have it - neither should the templar. (...)

*bolt-escapes in*

Would you still want this skill to get nerfed when you have a Templar character yourself? No?
*sigh* It's always the same, players cry for a nerf of other classes' skills.

Odd how often I've seen postings about "nerf Sorc", "nerf NB", "nerf DK" and "nerf Templar", so I strongly assume that EVERY class has its "OP" skills? Maybe you complainers need to learn how to use your own.

*bolt-escapes out*

Keep_Door · July 2015

shut up meg

Tors · July 2015

[quote="Moonshadow66;2015190" Maybe you complainers need to learn how to use your own.

[/quote]

Na

They need to play the other classes at least once.

The grass is ALLWAYS greener dragon blood on the other side

demendred · July 2015

A DK killed me the other day......Nerf!!!! Nerf!!!!!

Moonshadow66 · July 2015

@Tors Yeah, that too

@demendred Let me guess: the wings?^^

Tors · July 2015

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

@demendred Let me guess: the wings?^^

The wings are a game machanic telling you when to shoot........

eliisra · July 2015

Ironically tho, most templars would like to see the "stun"(actually only a 0.5 sec knock back) gone from both Biting Jabs and Puncturing Sweep.

You give the enemy a full 5 sec cc immunity for a puny knock back. It's silly.

So yeah, I do agree with the OP. Please nerf that stun!

King Bozo · July 2015

My right trigger button appear to be really fast. May I request a nerf for that please

BuggeX · July 2015

BTW, which temp are using puncturing-sweep? i meen he prob has light armor and full magicka and goes in meele range?
wy dont just Jesus beam?

timidobserver · July 2015

BuggeX wrote: »

BTW, which temp are using puncturing-sweep? i meen he prob has light armor and full magicka and goes in meele range?
wy dont just Jesus beam?

Because Jesus Beam from full health is ineffective against any one that is half way decent in a 1v1 scenario.

markt84 · July 2015

A DK wants Templars nerfed.....too funny

BuggeX · July 2015

timidobserver wrote: »

BuggeX wrote: »

BTW, which temp are using puncturing-sweep? i meen he prob has light armor and full magicka and goes in meele range?
wy dont just Jesus beam?

Because Jesus Beam from full health is ineffective against any one that is half way decent.

True, but would you kill a decent DK with puncturing sweep?

BurtFreeman · July 2015

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

Would you still want this skill to get nerfed when you have a Templar character yourself? No?
*sigh* It's always the same, players cry for a nerf of other classes' skills.

actually my favorites are sorc and templar, and i will like to seem them nerfed, especially the sorc, because they are too strong for me.
i will also like to see more ranged croud control skills on dk and nb low level, that i do not like play too much

timidobserver · July 2015

BuggeX wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

BuggeX wrote: »

BTW, which temp are using puncturing-sweep? i meen he prob has light armor and full magicka and goes in meele range?
wy dont just Jesus beam?

Because Jesus Beam from full health is ineffective against any one that is half way decent.

True, but would you kill a decent DK with puncturing sweep?

Yup. Much more likely than full health Jesus beaming.

BugCollector · July 2015

If something has got to be nerfed, it's Two-Handed.

BuggeX · July 2015

BurtFreeman wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

Would you still want this skill to get nerfed when you have a Templar character yourself? No?
*sigh* It's always the same, players cry for a nerf of other classes' skills.

actually my favorites are sorc and templar, and i will like to seem them nerfed, especially the sorc, because they are too strong for me.
i will also like to see more ranged croud control skills on dk and nb, that i do not like play too much

Hö?
DK has the most powerfull range CC that exist in this game, never heard about fozzil?
it doesnt give cc immunity, it drain Stamina from target, it stun and roots it make dmg,
ist the fear for all Stamina users

i love this bugged skill

THEDKEXPERIENCE · July 2015

This whole thread cracks me up. I'm a VR1 Templar and do quite well in PVP to the point where I constantly joke about how over powered I am. No seriously. I really think that Templar has more potential than any other class if you're just willing to think out of the box. Here's my build off of memory.

7/7 Heavy Armor: 5/5 Deaths Wind, the rest Ashen Grip
All 49 points into Health
All Increased Magicka enchantments
Lighting Staff of Flame: Latches onto anyone within 28 meters; burns them nasty vampires while I'm at it.
Duel Ashen Grip Swords with Crit added
Bar 1: Breath of Life, Soul Trap Morph, Sun Fire, Repentance, Destruction Staff first spell morph
Bar 2: BoL, Rapid Maneuver morph, Silver Shards (take that werewolves), Repentance, Javelin stamina morph
Ultimate is the Templar Heal, healing springs I think it's called.
All jewelry increases my Magicka recovery too.
Speed Mundus Stone

PVP benefits: I can tag anyone from 25+ meters out with various ranged attacks and do added damage to all vampires and werewolves which probably account for 75% of the player base. Separating magic and stamina skills on each bar allow me to easily recover resources with heavy attacks. My armor allows me to survive any single attack and BoL + my ultimate make it a huge pain in the butt to kill me with less than 3 attackers.

PVE: Fighters Guild 9% bonus allows me to melt everything. I have no need to change gear. I also rock a full set of Cold Harbor Black Armor so I look like a high tech ninja which is kind of great.

In summary I'm really fast, very hard to kill, extra awesome against vamps and werewolves, and get 3 times the kills I should deserve due to so many triple target morphs. Enjoy THEDKEXPERIENCE Templar build!

markt84 · July 2015

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

This whole thread cracks me up. I'm a VR1 Templar and do quite well in PVP to the point where I constantly joke about how over powered I am. No seriously. I really think that Templar has more potential than any other class if you're just willing to think out of the box. Here's my build off of memory.

7/7 Heavy Armor: 5/5 Deaths Wind, the rest Ashen Grip
All 49 points into Health
All Increased Magicka enchantments
Lighting Staff of Flame: Latches onto anyone within 28 meters; burns them nasty vampires while I'm at it.
Duel Ashen Grip Swords with Crit added
Bar 1: Breath of Life, Soul Trap Morph, Sun Fire, Repentance, Destruction Staff first spell morph
Bar 2: BoL, Rapid Maneuver morph, Silver Shards (take that werewolves), Repentance, Javelin stamina morph
Ultimate is the Templar Heal, healing springs I think it's called.
All jewelry increases my Magicka recovery too.
Speed Mundus Stone

PVP benefits: I can tag anyone from 25+ meters out with various ranged attacks and do added damage to all vampires and werewolves which probably account for 75% of the player base. Separating magic and stamina skills on each bar allow me to easily recover resources with heavy attacks. My armor allows me to survive any single attack and BoL + my ultimate make it a huge pain in the butt to kill me with less than 3 attackers.

PVE: Fighters Guild 9% bonus allows me to melt everything. I have no need to change gear. I also rock a full set of Cold Harbor Black Armor so I look like a high tech ninja which is kind of great.

In summary I'm really fast, very hard to kill, extra awesome against vamps and werewolves, and get 3 times the kills I should deserve due to so many triple target morphs. Enjoy THEDKEXPERIENCE Templar build!

I agree that Templars are very diverse. But ur setup is too stand in the background for me. I like it get up in their face, and I know that isn't what temps are best at, but it's what I like. And sweeps is basically the only really good up close attack for temps. Hell, hell all my other close combat attacks are found in the sword and board skill line. And thinking about going 2 handed since they want to change the stam for blocking