Please Nerf Puncturing Sweep

tordr86b16_ESO · July 2015

timidobserver wrote: »

tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »

No one should have a spammable ability that can STUN, HEAL and do a fuckton of DAMAGE at the same time in one ability. DK, Sorc or NB doesn't have it - neither should the templar.

I will take a nerf to puncturing sweep if we can also nerf wrecking blow, crystal frag, surprise attack, flame lash, focused aim, and a number of other things.

Put on some nirnhoned and win.

I got 36k spell resistance buffed...

Akinos · July 2015

tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »

No one should have a spammable ability that can STUN, HEAL and do a fuckton of DAMAGE at the same time in one ability. DK, Sorc or NB doesn't have it - neither should the templar.

I will take a nerf to puncturing sweep if we can also nerf wrecking blow, crystal frag, surprise attack, flame lash, focused aim, and a number of other things.

Put on some nirnhoned and win.

I got 36k spell resistance buffed...

Do you know what Spell Penetration is?

blabafat · July 2015

Oh...my...god...

Okay, so Puncturing Sweep. Templar's ONLY SPAMMABLE MELEE DPS.

It heals, does damage, and stuns.

So the heal is meh. I play templar as my main and I use this ability as my main DPS. I'd anyday take some extra crit/extra damage over that heal. The damage is nice on non nirn users. Stun? Seriously? It's like .5 second knockback that gives immunity.

Not only that, you cannot block while casting it. Use stonefist, use invasion, use some cc while the templar is casting it. Use TALONS. Roots are the BIGGEST counter to puncturing sweep. Move around, don't stand there.

Nerf Puncturing sweep...that's really new

Ace_of_Destiny · July 2015

blabafat wrote: »

Oh...my...god...

Okay, so Puncturing Sweep. Templar's ONLY SPAMMABLE MELEE DPS.

It heals, does damage, and stuns.

So the heal is meh. I play templar as my main and I use this ability as my main DPS. I'd anyday take some extra crit/extra damage over that heal. The damage is nice on non nirn users. Stun? Seriously? It's like .5 second knockback that gives immunity.

Not only that, you cannot block while casting it. Use stonefist, use invasion, use some cc while the templar is casting it. Use TALONS. Roots are the BIGGEST counter to puncturing sweep. Move around, don't stand there.

Nerf Puncturing sweep...that's really new

^ He Been There! ^

BRogueNZ · July 2015

Suru wrote: »

So many templars i know don't even use puncturing because they think its terribad dps and just spam darkflare because they dont want to try.

I'd like to use it but at 250-300ms you're just jabbing air half the time, or some (any) other class has already killed the target and your stabbing and hu-hahing away like a drunk in a knife fight.

blabafat · July 2015

tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »

No one should have a spammable ability that can STUN, HEAL and do a fuckton of DAMAGE at the same time in one ability. DK, Sorc or NB doesn't have it - neither should the templar.

NBS Sorcs Templars don't get full resources after using an ultimate - neither should the DK

Akinos · July 2015

BRogueNZ wrote: »

Suru wrote: »

So many templars i know don't even use puncturing because they think its terribad dps and just spam darkflare because they dont want to try.

I'd like to use it but at 250-300ms you're just jabbing air half the time, or some (any) other class has already killed the target and your stabbing and hu-hahing away like a drunk in a knife fight.

Something like this?:

https://youtu.be/uj2dmQruJXs

Akinos · July 2015

blabafat wrote: »

Oh...my...god...

Okay, so Puncturing Sweep. Templar's ONLY SPAMMABLE MELEE DPS.

It heals, does damage, and stuns.

So the heal is meh. I play templar as my main and I use this ability as my main DPS. I'd anyday take some extra crit/extra damage over that heal. The damage is nice on non nirn users. Stun? Seriously? It's like .5 second knockback that gives immunity.

Not only that, you cannot block while casting it. Use stonefist, use invasion, use some cc while the templar is casting it. Use TALONS. Roots are the BIGGEST counter to puncturing sweep. Move around, don't stand there.

Nerf Puncturing sweep...that's really new

OP got rekt. Blab just told you to sit down, should probably take his advice and quit trying to get sweep nerfed.

NadiusMaximus · July 2015

You know it's about the only skill in the game you actually have to aim, right?
Are there any others?

Forestd16b14_ESO · July 2015

So I'm trying to follow this. Every one is ripping on the guy for asking for a nerf on a skill and saying the imfamous L2P and telling him that there playing DK wrong and that the only way to play DK is with a magical build. Welp 2 sides to this thread.

1st don't scream nerf cause you get killed by one skilled that's being spammed over and over that's ha;f the skills and all skills be weapon and class base all need reworked.

2nd this is a Elder Scrolls game the guy doesnt have to play how you want it's how he wants to play and if he doesn't wanna be a magical DK then so be it. Don't act like smug elitest and tell them how to play that just makes you the L2P noob cause were would half the player base be ( reminder these are the ones also screaming L2P at every one) with out youtube and cookie cutter builds? No where cause they can take the time or effort to actually learn the game and use what cards the have in there hands on there own. Side note PvP would be alot more fair and there be alot less exploits and crys for nerfs.

Akinos · July 2015

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

So I'm trying to follow this. Every one is ripping on the guy for asking for a nerf on a skill and saying the imfamous L2P and telling him that there playing DK wrong and that the only way to play DK is with a magical build. Welp 2 sides to this thread.

1st don't scream nerf cause you get killed by one skilled that's being spammed over and over that's ha;f the skills and all skills be weapon and class base all need reworked.

2nd this is a Elder Scrolls game the guy doesnt have to play how you want it's how he wants to play and if he doesn't wanna be a magical DK then so be it. Don't act like smug elitest and tell them how to play that just makes you the L2P noob cause were would half the player base be ( reminder these are the ones also screaming L2P at every one) with out youtube and cookie cutter builds? No where cause they can take the time or effort to actually learn the game and use what cards the have in there hands on there own. Side note PvP would be alot more fair and there be alot less exploits and crys for nerfs.

Tell that to the guy who started this silly thread.

tordr86b16_ESO · July 2015

Radiant Destruction is getting nerfed in Update 7. About time!

Lava_Croft · July 2015

Just wanted to say hi to the guy complaining about Puncturing Sweep in zone chat.

Hi!

Farorin · July 2015

I was getting killed by templars using puncturing sweep and biting jabs the other day. So I decided to use roll dodges, range, and CC. Worked a charm.

No need for nerfing.

In fact, if anything, templars need a buff to most of their skills seeing as how puncturing sweep isn't even that good, yet sadly, it is their best DPS skill.

I think there was mention of it doing 7k? Literally almost everything I get hit with does more damage to me than puncturing sweeps due to my inability to soak up pain. So while we are at it, lets nerf the whoooole game! Then would you be happy?

"You get a nerf! and You get a nerf! EVERYBODY GETS NERFS!!! NERFS ALL AROUND!"

tplink3r1 · July 2015

You are impressed by a 7k punc sweep? LOL.
DKs hit me for 5~7k all the time with Whip, wich has no cast time, ignores roll dodge and you don't have to aim it.

BuggeX · July 2015

Did you ever tryed to blockcast molten wipe?
Blockcast molten wipe and unstable flame and the temp would be gone.

Alphashado · July 2015

Please stop asking for nerfs because of perceived advantages in PvP. The only thing it accomplishes is ruining the PvE aspect of the game.

This may be hard to swallow, but this is a fact: No matter WHAT gets nerfed, there is ALWAYS something to take it's place. There will ALWAYS be abilities/builds/skills that people perceive as OP.

Nerfing perceived "OP" skills accomplishes nothing. Learning how to deal with it accordingly accomplishes everything.

Master_Fluff · July 2015

tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »

ulrik.igerupb16_ESO wrote: »

We don't need more skill nerfs in this game. We have had way too many of those.

Lemme guess, you play a templar?

I play all classes except dragonknight.

NadiusMaximus · July 2015

Farorin wrote: »

"You get a nerf! and You get a nerf! EVERYBODY GETS NERFS!!! NERFS ALL AROUND!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NofDnJldrE

Lettigall · July 2015

Wow crying about spell which gives for 0.5s knock back 5s CC immunity. Spell which is channeled and easy avoidable! Templar is locked in animation while using sweep or jabs, every good player knows that and uses against templar. OP you weren't killed by some overpowered skill but by more skilled player than you.

Rinmaethodain · July 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gSQg1i_q2g

P3ZZL3 · July 2015

I wanted to be thoughtful and constructive in my response, but all I keep coming up with is "l2p" and "gtfo".....

Meanwhile, as you are referencing Healing on the sweep one assumes this is a magicka build?

I'd like to see more of the Temp skills with Stamina branches tbh.

JD2013 · July 2015

I'm sorry, we are all out of nerfs for today.

Please try again later.

Alcast · July 2015

tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »

No one should have a spammable ability that can STUN, HEAL and do a lot of DAMAGE at the same time in one ability. DK, Sorc or NB doesn't have it - neither should the templar.

dude, walk 2meters to the left and he cant hit you anymore LOL l2p.

and dmg is low

NadiusMaximus · July 2015

Actually. I hope this happens Soon™!

Lol, as Soon™ as, let's say. .spellcrafting.

asteldian · July 2015

I second the 'nerf' to puncturing sweep. I have been dying to have that stupid CC removed for ages now and since ZOS won't do so as a fix, maybe by requesting it be a nerf it will actually happen.

Flameheart · July 2015

Sure, nerf my only reasonable melee skill (which is superb for leveling and training skills) I have as a magicka based healer. Just to be sure, we are talking about Puncturing Sweep the magicka based option, not Biting Jabs ? I assume you mean in fact the magicka morph option, because this one is the only one that self heals. I use it every day for grinding, but I still miss the "a lot" of damage...Even with over 30k magicka one hit is rarely over 2k, depends a lot on the spellresistance of the target too.

Should it be inevitable, I request extension of the nerf deadline til I am done with Reaper's March (my last Cadwell's Gold zone) to grind my last few bowskills to morph 2 rank 4. Then I will have trained all skills to max, some even for both morph options.

I am tired of skill nerfs out of PvP reasons, although they have a major impact on PvE.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing and Profanity]

King Bozo · July 2015

I guess someone died by puncturing sweeps and they cry nerf give me a break.

wesly.backersb16_ESO · July 2015

My main is a templar and I love it. With a lot of practice, try & error you can have a good templar dps'er. You only need to know which skills to use in what order. And of course a good armour set ...or 2.

But asking for a nerf of puncturing sweeps is same as asking to nerf DK's "Hardened Armor"

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