Well, firstly, are you a console or non-console player?

You can make good ap in cyro in small numbers depending on build and setup, but i you are a newcomer you would do best to try and learn the angles.

i.e. AP gain is mostly about being in the right place at the right time.

Take advantage of Defensible positions, tight spaces, stealth, mobility, and learn how the map works.

People pushign for emp/faction victory want objectives and you can farm them in the process by defending those locations. Find a server where the opposing faction has high population and/or is pushing the map.



Once you get better, you can run in smaller groups (or solo) and you will have the game sense to stay near the action, off your horse, and choose fights that you can win and make max ap. if you like group play, find a group of likeminded people and work out a group strat, see if you can farm the farmers.

Thanks for the write-up @Ghostbane. Let me answer a few more things and ask a few others.

I am not using any addons for PvP currently. My addon list is mostly for trade guilds and locales. I just check my inventory and/or my alliance war screen to see how I'm doing. I typically memorize where my AP was, and then check to see how well I am doing.

What I've noticed is when I think I'm doing well, I'm gaining very little AP. For example, I was fighting between Sej and Alessia and maybe had about 5 kills and contributed to 15. I rezzed a few people, and I helped take Sej. I didn't die and was able to turn in my bounty shortly after. After turning it in, I only gained about 2700 AP, which I found to be pretty low since 1000 came from the bounty. During this time, I was completely solo.

When I'm in a group, I feel like I'm hardly getting hits in or I'm that guy that keeps dying. I recently got TS3, so I'm hoping I'll have a better time finding groups in Cyrodiil though since I've noticed it's largely antisocial on in group chat. But in groups I'm seeing a lot more in terms of AP gain. During an hour or so of playing, I saw about 10500 AP. We weren't taking or defending much, but we did flag some resources. But finding groups tends to be tough. I am in a PvP guild, but I feel like I'm dead weight to them.

So my questions here. What's a fair number I should aim for in AP gain, say, per hour. I don't feel like I'm progressing much, but I can understand moving up the ranks in the alliance war SHOULD be slow (and I appreciate that). But what's too slow? I constantly hear people are farming AP, but I'm not seeing any groups do it that I could possibly join (hah).

And for the offensive/defensive ticks, should I make sure I don't leave that area? Does leaving that area cause me to lose out entirely, or will I get what I earned while I was there? Seems like the former is true, and makes sense why people hang back a lot, and not chase.

Anyway, hopefully this isn't too long. I'm just trying to get a hand of what's good here. I'm no stranger to playing this game. I'm decent in PvE. It's just moving into group and PvP content that is a learning curve for me. Mostly it's because I don't have the availability like some players that seem to be able to be around more. So grouping tends to be tough when I have to leave every hour or so.

It's common on an active campaign to earn 20 - 30k AP/ hr, to give you a rough idea of what you should aim for. You won't get more than this unless you are either a very good solo player, or you are running in a strong group. The best PvP groups can hit 70k AP an hour if they try.