With Level Going Up to VR16 Will Guards/Monsters in Cyrodiil Also Gain a Level or Two?

Turelus · July 2015

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Scaling crafting nodes isn't planned for this update but possibly in a future one It's been a long standing request both internally and externally.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler by scaling do you mean players receive items scaled to their level?

If so I have to say I'm not really a fan of that option. I think something more interesting would be cause each node respawn to spawn a random material level, this way it gives new low level players a sense of finding something greater than they are by harvesting a higher level node and keeps all other players able to find materials of lower levels.

I understand the flip side of this is that it doesn't really solve the issue right now where's most players don't see the need to harvest a node due to it being lower level than them.

ZOS_BrianWheeler · July 2015

Wrobel and the Combat gang are indeed in charge of the items that come in the bags and end of Campaigns as itemization and combat are tied very closely together. Rewards for the Worthy bags will be updated to include V15 gear and leaderboards will have v16 gear. Sets are also getting overhauled and the patch notes will have a bunch of that info when they come out. The Vendors currently stop at V14 for now. There will be other methods, including PVP, for getting V16 gear that you'll hear about when we talk about that city in the middle of Cyrodiil.

Ghostbane · July 2015

Ezareth wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Raizin wrote: »

haha no pvp v16 gear... classic zos..

He didn't say that as far as I've seen. Got a link?

He didn't confirm the presence of them either. Considering they didn't have V12 or V14 PvP bags until months after those veteran ranks were released and the fact he ignored the question despite obviously reading it and answering another question asked afterwards is confirmation enough for me.

/sigh

Really, now... they were in the same day as those patches introducing the new veteran ranks each time. Why would you assume this won't be the same? There wasn't a delay of "months after". Not immediately answering a question that hadn't even been asked (his response was to someone talking about harvesting nodes in Cyrodiil. You know... wood, ore, etc.?), not vendor purchasables. Inserting a random new question by quoting a response to something else entirely and then complaining it wasn't answered isn't good form. Guess what? While he'll probably pop back in to answer now that you actually asked... it still would be meaningless as to what the case is, if he doesn't. So now it's not, "He said this!" but suddenly "he didn't say anything yet when it was asked!", except.... it wasn't asked in the first place.

PvP *bags* were not in place the same day as release of V14 veteran ranks. PvP gear from the vendors has been in place for most of the gear. I was using V12 Archmage for some time after V14 was introduced. There was a similar issue when Vet 12 was introduced where many of the Vendor PvP items were stuck at Vet rank 10. This is a pretty big concern for most of the veteran PvPers who actually use these sets and I'm sure carebears as well since some sets are BiS for carebear setups as well. Having the answer to this question could mean the difference between spending AP now for many people or waiting until the patch is released.

I mentioned this issue in PTS testing back before V14 came out and it was overlooked then.

My question closely mirrors the original question that Brian answered so it isn't a "Random" new question or "bad form".

Can back up @Ezareth 's claim here. VR13+14 bags did not land alongside the levels release. I remember this, because myself and many other players retained their AP for weeks to their release in a patch.

Attorneyatlawl · July 2015

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Wrobel and the Combat gang are indeed in charge of the items that come in the bags and end of Campaigns as itemization and combat are tied very closely together. Rewards for the Worthy bags will be updated to include V15 gear and leaderboards will have v16 gear. Sets are also getting overhauled and the patch notes will have a bunch of that info when they come out. The Vendors currently stop at V14 for now. There will be other methods, including PVP, for getting V16 gear that you'll hear about when we talk about that city in the middle of Cyrodiil.

Now that... sounds interesting.

Ghostbane wrote: »

Can back up @Ezareth 's claim here. VR13+14 bags did not land alongside the levels release. I remember this, because myself and many other players retained their AP for weeks to their release in a patch.

Sounds like I am misremembering, then on the VR13/14 ones. I remember not thinking much of it soon after the patch for that, although I do remember VR12 bags coming right in at the same time as the patch raising the cap. Still, the tag-along question slapped onto harvesting nodes and then presenting it as "They said it's not happening!" when it wasn't mentioned even, was extremely disingenuous nonetheless.

Snit · July 2015

How about crafted gear? It needs to go up to at least V15, or it falls behind.

Ezareth · July 2015

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Wrobel and the Combat gang are indeed in charge of the items that come in the bags and end of Campaigns as itemization and combat are tied very closely together. Rewards for the Worthy bags will be updated to include V15 gear and leaderboards will have v16 gear. Sets are also getting overhauled and the patch notes will have a bunch of that info when they come out. The Vendors currently stop at V14 for now. There will be other methods, including PVP, for getting V16 gear that you'll hear about when we talk about that city in the middle of Cyrodiil.

Much appreciation for the detailed response Brian. This is pretty huge news with respect to PvP gearing and I find myself warming to it so far. I've been let down too many times to date to get too worked up, but I'll allow myself a sliver of hope.

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Sounds like I am misremembering, then on the VR13/14 ones. I remember not thinking much of it soon after the patch for that, although I do remember VR12 bags coming right in at the same time as the patch raising the cap. Still, the tag-along question slapped onto harvesting nodes and then presenting it as "They said it's not happening!" when it wasn't mentioned even, was extremely disingenuous nonetheless.

I messaged Brian on the scaling up question which was completely on topic and a valid follow-up, not the harvesting nodes which few people care much about as the nodes are far to spread out to be worth actually farming. He responded to the harvesting node question posed after the one I asked which is why I assumed the bags were not being updated. Given the extreme lack of communication from the devs in general and in the PvP forums in particular regarding anything of substance, my assumption could hardly be called "disingenuous" although it was it appears correct.

I think you need to read before you respond to things. Most of your responses in the PvP forums appear condescending and "know-it-all" when in fact you are often wrong and I find that irritating.

cozmon3c_ESO · July 2015

Hopefully they just max level everything to V16, i hate getting those V12 items if im killing stuff in cyrodiil.