THANK YOU for the up-coming changes

Vatter · July 2015

I for one am really happy that the following changes are taking place.

1. no stamina regen while blocking.
2. adding a penalty to roll dodging consecutively.
3. adding more of a penalty to streaking
4. reduced shields
5. reduced damage (pvp)
6. HOPEFULLY adding a penalty to cloak.
7. HOPEFULLY now that its been discovered that aoe is what is causing the lag in cyrodiil (even though we have been telling you for 9 months) we will see a fix.(maybe a fix to the cc problems as well *fingers crossed*)

It's about time for these changes. People will have to actually USE STRATEGY while playing to be successful.

Now if we can just get you to fix the templar class and make flame whip blockable like its suppose to, we will be in business.

SOLDIER_1stClass · July 2015

Cloak does not need a penalty. Just because Bolt Escape and dodging received this does not mean cloak needs it. This game needs less nerfs not more of them.

GreenSoup2HoT · July 2015

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/192722/major-brutality-should-it-be-given-to-twin-slashes-instead-of-hidden-blade#latest

Please give Twin Slashes Major Brutality instead of Hidden Blade...

Explanation within URL.

Vatter · July 2015

SOLDIER_1stClass wrote: »

Cloak does not need a penalty. Just because Bolt Escape and dodging received this does not mean cloak needs it. This game needs less nerfs not more of them.

yes it does. badly.

Vatter · July 2015

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/192722/major-brutality-should-it-be-given-to-twin-slashes-instead-of-hidden-blade#latest

Please give Twin Slashes Major Brutality instead of Hidden Blade...

Explanation within URL.

why not throw templars an escape while we are at it?

lathbury · July 2015

oh look another sorc trying to get a broken skill nerfed.

leepalmer95 · July 2015

I'd be happy too if every class other than my own got nerfed, the no stamina regen is just a stupid idea, such a big change which will affect pve as well.

Elijah_Crow · July 2015

Lots of great changes coming thanks to player feedback.

lathbury · July 2015

leepalmer95 wrote: »

I'd be happy too if every class other than my own got nerfed, the no stamina regen is just a stupid idea, such a big change which will affect pve as well.

not sure its gonna be such a big deal in PVE we will have to wait and see on the PTS. what will be interesting also is the dodge roll change for eg on the bow boss stage with the werewolves and lurchers in vdsa. you have to roll dodge interupt and roll again sometimes. I see some magika builds getting hit with her arrows as they have no stam to roll.

SOLDIER_1stClass · July 2015

leepalmer95 wrote: »

I'd be happy too if every class other than my own got nerfed, the no stamina regen is just a stupid idea, such a big change which will affect pve as well.

I do not tank but even I find is to be a hard hit. There has to be a more viable way to solve this other than negate stamina regen.

But I am not attuned enough to the Tank style in this game to solve it. However, that is a discussion for another thread.

leepalmer95 · July 2015

SOLDIER_1stClass wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

I'd be happy too if every class other than my own got nerfed, the no stamina regen is just a stupid idea, such a big change which will affect pve as well.

I do not tank but even I find is to be a hard hit. There has to be a more viable way to solve this other than negate stamina regen.

But I am not attuned enough to the Tank style in this game to solve it.

Hmm if they feel they must nerf stamina regen while block, then add it to the pvp buff, (the one thats adds dr and hp etc..) so it only appears in cyrodill, also don't get rid of it altogther maybe 50% it while blocking or add a diminishing returns curve the longer you hold block.

Rinmaethodain · July 2015

Removing stamina regen while blocking in PVE is straightforward stupid and pointless. A lame nerf under false excuse where true reason are PVPers whines and cries.

Here you have almost 18 pages why this is nerf is crap for PVE http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/190299/pve-tanking-future-do-not-get-rid-of-stam-regen-while-blocking-in-pve/p18

kkampaseb17_ESO · July 2015

Yes just nerf majorly the usage of skills while blocking and problem solved. What should be nerfed is Block-casting...not the stamina recovery. Don't allow for usage of skills while blocking...grey out the bar like with sprint. Problem solved. The tank is doing what is supposed to do without doing ludicrous damage for its survivability.

And now let the *** storm from PvPers hit the fan.....

Blocking-casting has to be nerfed one way or another. The problem is you will make either PvErs or PvPers angry. I don't care who gets to be angry as far as it gets solved.

p_tsakirisb16_ESO · July 2015

SOLDIER_1stClass wrote: »

This game needs less nerfs not more of them.

This game needs a VERY high amount of nerfs, especially on damage dealing in PVP.
Is absurd to have 1 hit kills, or 1 hit that does 50% of hp pool damage.

In BETA pvp was great, because it took minutes to kill each other in battle.
Yes we were all level 15-20, but the HP and damage was in line. And while the HP it getting a very low growth, the damage is growing exponentially on every level.

Given how things are, we either should have x10 times more HP normally, or cut down the damage by a hefty 80%.

Sneaky-Snurr · July 2015

Are you serious OP? You're asking for cloak to be nerfed when all this while (since freaking launch), it has been a broken skill for NBs. I disagree with point #6. Cloak is a staple skill to NBs. We don't have decent healing abilities (unless you're a stickblade, which nobody wants to be forced into just for the heals, does 'play any style you want' rings a bell?) and so we really rely on cloak for health regen with our lousy healing abilities. And this upcoming patch for cloak is actually a FIX. Not a buff. Please get that. Yes, you didn't specify it's a buff so why are you asking for a nerf?

And please, don't talk about vigour for replacement heals, even though it's going to be easier for PVPers to get, it's not possible for everyone. I get that you're a PVP-centric player judging from your points but hear this out. I'm talking about both sides of the equation as you have to consider the PVE crowd as well. Roll dodging is getting nerfed, which makes stam builds more vulnerable (except for 2h users as they have a reliable self heal) so there will be more reliance on heals post-upcoming-patch.
Sorry for the long post but I feel that this needs to be said. Stop all this 'Cloak needs a nerf/penalty' nonsense.

TL;DR
-Heals from a stam build is very, VERY limited unless you're a 2h user
-NBs' healing skills are lackluster (rightly compensated by a fully functioning cloak)
-Cloak is finally getting fixed

Still TL;DR
-You lazy bus-turd