Stacks-Guild Bank

Joxin · July 2015

We all know that when you throw stuff in the guild bank it won't stack on the same item that's already in there. This causes myself, and a couple of guildies, to go in, take out the stuff, throw it in our bank to stack, and then throw it back in the guild bank.

Our guild history already keeps track of withdrawals and deposits in the bank, so why the extra separation?

My Two Solutions:

1. Allow stuff to stack when you put in the guild bank, just like normal bank.
~or~
2. Implement a button that says "Stack all Items." That way guilds that like the separation can keep it that way.

Thoughts???

KronicDecay · July 2015

If you play on PC theres a good addon called "Roomba" that does all that for you with one click

Joxin · July 2015

KronicDecay wrote: »

If you play on PC theres a good addon called "Roomba" that does all that for you with one click

On ps4 but, thank you for mentioning that!

Xendyn · July 2015

Yes, this needs to be fixed...finally. You guys inherited a bandaid from PC is what happened.
Back at Launch, there was a bug that allowed duping using the guild bank stacking. The quick fix was to disable stacking in the Guild banks and it's never been properly fixed to this day.

Way past time this got taken care of, on All platforms.

Pman85 · July 2015

KronicDecay wrote: »

If you play on PC theres a good addon called "Roomba" that does all that for you with one click

damnit, I am about to go back to the PC for realz

Joxin · July 2015

Xendyn wrote: »

Yes, this needs to be fixed...finally. You guys inherited a bandaid from PC is what happened.
Back at Launch, there was a bug that allowed duping using the guild bank stacking. The quick fix was to disable stacking in the Guild banks and it's never been properly fixed to this day.

Way past time this got taken care of, on All platforms.

That is ridiculous. I am not a programmer but, I've dabbled, and grown up around programmers enough to know it shoould not take a year to fix that kind of problem.

Pman85 · July 2015

i think the console got the PC band-aid of sorts. this was fixed on PC during the early stages becuase of duping problems. I am not sure if it is still possible on the console like it was on the PC, but that was the reason for the change in the G bank system.

Now is that band-aid still worth having around becuase of the duping? I have no clue lol

Joxin · July 2015

Pman85 wrote: »

i think the console got the PC band-aid of sorts. this was fixed on PC during the early stages becuase of duping problems. I am not sure if it is still possible on the console like it was on the PC, but that was the reason for the change in the G bank system.

Now is that band-aid still worth having around becuase of the duping? I have no clue lol

Well...maybe if they add my

2. Implement a button that says "Stack all Items." That way guilds that like the separation can keep it that way.

Never know until you try!

Seepuh · July 2015

Seriously, I spend more time doing stacking with an alt DEVOTED to it that it keeps me from enjoying the game I paid to play.

Joxin · July 2015

Is it possible there is a fix in development? Or do you all think it will be left as is?

FireflyNeph · July 2015

Reviving a kind of old thread here, I know.

Does anyone know if there is a fix in the works yet? I'm on PS4, and this is a HUGE pain. Also, does anyone have any good methods of dealing with this? My personal bank is full, and I am still working on getting gold to afford the expansions, so I can't exactly restack everything via my own bank. Is there another way around it?

starkerealm · July 2015

Joxin wrote: »

Xendyn wrote: »

Yes, this needs to be fixed...finally. You guys inherited a bandaid from PC is what happened.
Back at Launch, there was a bug that allowed duping using the guild bank stacking. The quick fix was to disable stacking in the Guild banks and it's never been properly fixed to this day.

Way past time this got taken care of, on All platforms.

That is ridiculous. I am not a programmer but, I've dabbled, and grown up around programmers enough to know it shoould not take a year to fix that kind of problem.

You're familiar with the situation where a temporary solution becomes permanent because it works, and no one wants to risk the codebase exploding taking out several low flying pigeons and a goldfish in the process?

Joxin · July 2015

FireflyNeph wrote: »

Reviving a kind of old thread here, I know.

Does anyone know if there is a fix in the works yet? I'm on PS4, and this is a HUGE pain. Also, does anyone have any good methods of dealing with this? My personal bank is full, and I am still working on getting gold to afford the expansions, so I can't exactly restack everything via my own bank. Is there another way around it?

All I've found to work is to take the stuff out of GB and then stack it in your PB. That's all you can pretty much do lol.

Vizier · July 2015

Get the ROOMBA addon. It will manage your bank and guild bank inventory with one click. It's even better than being able to do it yourself.

UrQuan · July 2015

Joxin wrote: »

Xendyn wrote: »

Yes, this needs to be fixed...finally. You guys inherited a bandaid from PC is what happened.
Back at Launch, there was a bug that allowed duping using the guild bank stacking. The quick fix was to disable stacking in the Guild banks and it's never been properly fixed to this day.

Way past time this got taken care of, on All platforms.

That is ridiculous. I am not a programmer but, I've dabbled, and grown up around programmers enough to know it shoould not take a year to fix that kind of problem.

Then you should know that depending on what the root cause of the problem is, it could very well be impossible to fix without an overhaul of the way the underlying database handles multiple requests from multiple users.

NephilimHero · July 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

Joxin wrote: »

Xendyn wrote: »

Yes, this needs to be fixed...finally. You guys inherited a bandaid from PC is what happened.
Back at Launch, there was a bug that allowed duping using the guild bank stacking. The quick fix was to disable stacking in the Guild banks and it's never been properly fixed to this day.

Way past time this got taken care of, on All platforms.

That is ridiculous. I am not a programmer but, I've dabbled, and grown up around programmers enough to know it shoould not take a year to fix that kind of problem.

Then you should know that depending on what the root cause of the problem is, it could very well be impossible to fix without an overhaul of the way the underlying database handles multiple requests from multiple users.

Regardless of if it's faff to do or not minecraft currently has a better storage system than this game, ZOS just need to bite bullet and stop wasting their consumers time with micro managing a guild bank

Love_Daggerfall · July 2015

ZOS Don't change the Guild Bank's non stacking.
I love filling up other Guilds Banks with hundreads of the same item.
Don't lisen to the others, keep it the way it is please.

sylviermoone · July 2015

You don't have to move the items to your personal bank to stack them, it can be done in you char inventory.

Not a fix in any way, but hopefully this will allow you to save on doing a needless step.

UrQuan · July 2015

NephilimHero wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Joxin wrote: »

Xendyn wrote: »

Yes, this needs to be fixed...finally. You guys inherited a bandaid from PC is what happened.
Back at Launch, there was a bug that allowed duping using the guild bank stacking. The quick fix was to disable stacking in the Guild banks and it's never been properly fixed to this day.

Way past time this got taken care of, on All platforms.

That is ridiculous. I am not a programmer but, I've dabbled, and grown up around programmers enough to know it shoould not take a year to fix that kind of problem.

Then you should know that depending on what the root cause of the problem is, it could very well be impossible to fix without an overhaul of the way the underlying database handles multiple requests from multiple users.

Regardless of if it's faff to do or not minecraft currently has a better storage system than this game, ZOS just need to bite bullet and stop wasting their consumers time with micro managing a guild bank

I realize that people who have never worked in software development generally don't have the insight into this, but in any development (which includes both bug fixes and new features) you need to assess the effort involved in the development, the benefit of the development, and the risk involved in the development. If the underlying problem in this case truly is something to do with how records are accessed in the database, then the effort involved would be high, the benefit would be moderate (it's a big benefit for the number of players who manage guild banks, but there is a manual workaround, and many players will never have to deal with the workaround anyway as they don't deal with maintaining guild banks), and the risk would be high that any fix to it might cause other problems elsewhere in the game. Based on that assessment, the bandaid fix that ZOS provided makes a lot more sense than opening this up to try to fix it, unless something else enters into the equation.

Of course, that's assuming that the underlying issue is something along the lines of what i suspect it is. If it's not, and if it's something easier and less risky to fix, then maybe ZOS just hasn't gotten around to it because other things took priority.

Joxin · July 2015

Vizier wrote: »

Get the ROOMBA addon. It will manage your bank and guild bank inventory with one click. It's even better than being able to do it yourself.

If ps4 could get that, I would!

sylviermoone wrote: »

You don't have to move the items to your personal bank to stack them, it can be done in you char inventory.

Not a fix in any way, but hopefully this will allow you to save on doing a needless step.

How would I do that? When I take stuff out of GB and into my inventory, there is no option to stack together and nor do they stack together upon entry into player inventory.

UrQuan wrote: »

NephilimHero wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Joxin wrote: »

Xendyn wrote: »

Yes, this needs to be fixed...finally. You guys inherited a bandaid from PC is what happened.
Back at Launch, there was a bug that allowed duping using the guild bank stacking. The quick fix was to disable stacking in the Guild banks and it's never been properly fixed to this day.

Way past time this got taken care of, on All platforms.

That is ridiculous. I am not a programmer but, I've dabbled, and grown up around programmers enough to know it shoould not take a year to fix that kind of problem.

Then you should know that depending on what the root cause of the problem is, it could very well be impossible to fix without an overhaul of the way the underlying database handles multiple requests from multiple users.

Regardless of if it's faff to do or not minecraft currently has a better storage system than this game, ZOS just need to bite bullet and stop wasting their consumers time with micro managing a guild bank

I realize that people who have never worked in software development generally don't have the insight into this, but in any development (which includes both bug fixes and new features) you need to assess the effort involved in the development, the benefit of the development, and the risk involved in the development. If the underlying problem in this case truly is something to do with how records are accessed in the database, then the effort involved would be high, the benefit would be moderate (it's a big benefit for the number of players who manage guild banks, but there is a manual workaround, and many players will never have to deal with the workaround anyway as they don't deal with maintaining guild banks), and the risk would be high that any fix to it might cause other problems elsewhere in the game. Based on that assessment, the bandaid fix that ZOS provided makes a lot more sense than opening this up to try to fix it, unless something else enters into the equation.

Of course, that's assuming that the underlying issue is something along the lines of what i suspect it is. If it's not, and if it's something easier and less risky to fix, then maybe ZOS just hasn't gotten around to it because other things took priority.

I suppose, no matter what the deal is, an explanation would be appreciated. That way no one will wonder what is or is not come.

UrQuan · July 2015

Joxin wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

NephilimHero wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Joxin wrote: »

Xendyn wrote: »

Yes, this needs to be fixed...finally. You guys inherited a bandaid from PC is what happened.
Back at Launch, there was a bug that allowed duping using the guild bank stacking. The quick fix was to disable stacking in the Guild banks and it's never been properly fixed to this day.

Way past time this got taken care of, on All platforms.

That is ridiculous. I am not a programmer but, I've dabbled, and grown up around programmers enough to know it shoould not take a year to fix that kind of problem.

Then you should know that depending on what the root cause of the problem is, it could very well be impossible to fix without an overhaul of the way the underlying database handles multiple requests from multiple users.

Regardless of if it's faff to do or not minecraft currently has a better storage system than this game, ZOS just need to bite bullet and stop wasting their consumers time with micro managing a guild bank

I realize that people who have never worked in software development generally don't have the insight into this, but in any development (which includes both bug fixes and new features) you need to assess the effort involved in the development, the benefit of the development, and the risk involved in the development. If the underlying problem in this case truly is something to do with how records are accessed in the database, then the effort involved would be high, the benefit would be moderate (it's a big benefit for the number of players who manage guild banks, but there is a manual workaround, and many players will never have to deal with the workaround anyway as they don't deal with maintaining guild banks), and the risk would be high that any fix to it might cause other problems elsewhere in the game. Based on that assessment, the bandaid fix that ZOS provided makes a lot more sense than opening this up to try to fix it, unless something else enters into the equation.

Of course, that's assuming that the underlying issue is something along the lines of what i suspect it is. If it's not, and if it's something easier and less risky to fix, then maybe ZOS just hasn't gotten around to it because other things took priority.

I suppose, no matter what the deal is, an explanation would be appreciated. That way no one will wonder what is or is not come.

Agreed on that. It would be nice if they came out and said something along the lines of "we plan on addressing guild bank stacking this at some point, but it's not high on the priority list right now" or "we've looking into this and it would be technically difficult to address without reintroducing the duplication bug, so we currently have no plans to implement guild bank stacking."

schwarzman1 · December 2015

Any update to this issue? I searched the forums but found nothing answering this one.

PS4/NA

Asherons_Call · December 2015

KronicDecay wrote: »

If you play on PC theres a good addon called "Roomba" that does all that for you with one click

I can't count how many times a console player has brought up an issue and there is an answer from a PC player referencing an addon that solves the problem. It's a bit disheartening to say the least

Asherons_Call · December 2015

Joxin wrote: »

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How would I do that? When I take stuff out of GB and into my inventory, there is no option to stack together and nor do they stack together upon entry into player inventory.

Press L3 to auto stack in your character inventory

TGWarlock · December 2015

Asherons_Call wrote: »

KronicDecay wrote: »

If you play on PC theres a good addon called "Roomba" that does all that for you with one click

I can't count how many times a console player has brought up an issue and there is an answer from a PC player referencing an addon that solves the problem. It's a bit disheartening to say the least

Well, that there is and addon shows that it can be done. But with today's maintenance, I guess they have bigger fish to fry. And with the addon, it probably got pushed to the back burner and forgotten about. Now that it's coping up consoles, maybe they look at it some more.

FireflyNeph · December 2015

schwarzman1 wrote: »

Any update to this issue? I searched the forums but found nothing answering this one.

PS4/NA

On PS4 as well. Unfortunately there is still no fix, but at least they added in L3 to stack things in your own character inventory. Took one step out of the "throw it all in your personal bank" solution. Still not ideal by any means, but a start.