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Update 6 PvP or 1.5 pvp?

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Lionxoft
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There's still such a huge difference in PvP without soft caps and the introduction of the Champion system. Do you miss the PvP from 1.5 or earlier or are you ok with how 1.6 is going and are enjoying it? Also, which class do you play the most? I'm still not sure if an unconstrained PvP realm is good for competition.

Some line items to take note of before you cast your vote:
Time to Kill/damage figures
Damage avoidance - shields, dodge roll, miss chance etc
Class imbalance where one class can take advantage of the lack of soft caps to outperform others
Offensive stats affecting defensive abilities
Are armor set ups more diversified?
Did it diversify build types?

That's just a few but I'm sure you can think of more. Maybe list your type of build as well. I'm curious to see how many people are playing the way they want to play or how many others have been forced back into a corner in order to compete.
Edited by Lionxoft on July 5, 2015 6:24PM

Update 6 PvP or 1.5 pvp? 47 votes

1.6 - Dragonknight
4%
Fi'yrapaulsimonps 2 votes
1.6 - Nightblade
10%
bosmern_ESOTheBullAenlirIyasSteelshiv 5 votes
1.6 - Sorceror
8%
MJWesslingb14_ESOTaonnorAhzekendus 4 votes
1.6 - Templar
2%
UPrime 1 vote
1.5 or earlier (list it) - Dragonknight
31%
EtanielMagnusRexkingzokyeb17_ESOPhatGrimReaperThyIronFistDraxysvortexman11Sanct16DisgracefulMindJuraigrNight-clawQuantineVelukodiJbugz97Seaber 15 votes
1.5 or earlier (list it) - Nightblade
17%
PoxheartLionxoftpjwb16_ESOAnath_QSoulacEirellaAraxleonErondil 8 votes
1.5 or earlier (list it) - Sorceror
14%
NotSoLeovolaodsalterToRelaxGarionDavenaroDerra 7 votes
1.5 or earlier (list it) - Templar
8%
RhakonSeriSorisCPT_CAPSLOCK 4 votes
I don't pvp. Just checkin' results
2%
AaronLawrence 1 vote
Other - Explain
0%
  • Lionxoft
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    1.5 or earlier (list it) - Nightblade
    1.5 was great for me.

    I used to play sword and board and bow stamina Nightblade. The balance between VR1 and VR14 ranks were incredibly close due to soft caps and there was no champion system. I enjoyed the longer fights that would test a build's strengths and weaknesses rather than who can burst faster. Now I need to spec into 2h or DW in order to keep my damage up to compete with the other incoming damage. Regen wasn't really a problem because I could dodge roll forever as a Redguard before 1.6.

    I don't think that 1.6 diversified builds at all. Stamina builds have always been strong but it has limited PvP builds more.
    Edited by Lionxoft on July 5, 2015 6:33PM
  • NotSo
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    1.5 or earlier (list it) - Sorceror
    1.5 let me stack mobility buffs sky high. Best damn MMO evar!
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  • pjwb16_ESO
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    1.5 or earlier (list it) - Nightblade
    1.5 was awesome for mag nb really fun :(
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  • Soulac
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    1.5 or earlier (list it) - Nightblade
    I miss my highdefense/offense Magicka Build.
    Pretty well in everything and good support in groups, also nice aoe dmg with bats/sap.

    Now I run Stamina since it´s the closest ot my old playstyle, but I´m not 100% happy with it.
    Problem with current Magicka is like not having enough Stamina for stuff i did back in 1.5...
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  • Soris
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    1.5 or earlier (list it) - Templar
    1.5 for hybrid templar. Soft caps were #1 reason but pretty much every single thing in update 5 was superior for me compared to 1.6
    Welkynd [Templar/AD/EU]
  • Juraigr
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    1.5 or earlier (list it) - Dragonknight
    Do I even need to say why?
    EU Worst DK , Best DK Singapore and NA also known as 'Special Snowflake'

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  • Araxleon
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    Soulac wrote: »
    I miss my highdefense/offense Magicka Build.
    Pretty well in everything and good support in groups, also nice aoe dmg with bats/sap.

    Now I run Stamina since it´s the closest ot my old playstyle, but I´m not 100% happy with it.
    Problem with current Magicka is like not having enough Stamina for stuff i did back in 1.5...

    I know, I sorta wish stamina regen jewelry wasnt changed xD , values went so weird in 1.6.
  • Lionxoft
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    Juraigr wrote: »
    Do I even need to say why?

    I have a vr14 dk and I could also agree on that one lol.
  • Seri
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    Soris wrote: »
    1.5 for hybrid templar. Soft caps were #1 reason but pretty much every single thing in update 5 was superior for me compared to 1.6

    ^^ this. I also had a hybrid templar and really enjoyed it. The only thing that was missing was some form of proper execute.
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  • Soris
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    Seri wrote: »
    Soris wrote: »
    1.5 for hybrid templar. Soft caps were #1 reason but pretty much every single thing in update 5 was superior for me compared to 1.6

    ^^ this. I also had a hybrid templar and really enjoyed it. The only thing that was missing was some form of proper execute.
    I was mainly health/stamina and some magicka for defence with a 2hander and 1h&s as secondary. I had everything in the world I need, except good AoEs.
    It was such a beasty paladin build with great defence and great single target spike dmg. And it was the only time I felt myself op in this game but it didn't last too long haha.
    Damn I'm missing it so much. :(
    Welkynd [Templar/AD/EU]
  • DisgracefulMind
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    1.5 or earlier (list it) - Dragonknight
    *sigh*
    No words need to be said. It just isn't the same anymore.
    Unfortunate magicka warden main.
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  • Cogo
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    1.5 = Follow an internet guide about what gear to use and what buttons to press. Skill = Smash buttons

    1.6 = How good you are is up to......*drum roll*....The players own skill, choices and adaptation.
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  • ToRelax
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    1.5 or earlier (list it) - Sorceror
    Cogo wrote: »
    1.5 = Follow an internet guide about what gear to use and what buttons to press. Skill = Smash buttons

    1.6 = How good you are is up to......*drum roll*....The players own skill, choices and adaptation.

    Something gives me the feeling you aren't exactly the person I'd ask about what it takes to be a strong player in either version of the game...
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  • TheBull
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    1.6 - Nightblade
    1.5 was terrible skirt or die.
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  • Lionxoft
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    1.5 or earlier (list it) - Nightblade
    Cogo wrote: »
    1.5 = Follow an internet guide about what gear to use and what buttons to press. Skill = Smash buttons

    1.6 = How good you are is up to......*drum roll*....The players own skill, choices and adaptation.

    That's really odd because I believe the exact opposite is true. I think that 1.6 has narrowed down the cookie cutter even more so than before. I think choice has been nearly removed from the game beyond stam/mag and class.
  • Lionxoft
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    1.5 or earlier (list it) - Nightblade
    TheBull wrote: »
    1.5 was terrible skirt or die.

    Weird because as a stamina build back in 1.5 I felt pretty powerful. Granted, I was running @Brizz 's stam nb build which was pretty damn powerful.
  • Draxys
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    1.5 or earlier (list it) - Dragonknight
    Juraigr wrote: »
    Do I even need to say why?

    2013

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  • Soris
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    1.5 or earlier (list it) - Templar
    Cogo wrote: »
    1.5 = Follow an internet guide about what gear to use and what buttons to press. Skill = Smash buttons
    1.6 = How good you are is up to......*drum roll*....The players own skill, choices and adaptation.
    1.5 = button mash and 1.6 = player skill? It is actually in reverse position.
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    TheBull wrote: »
    1.5 was terrible skirt or die.
    this ended in like 1.3

    People. Do you have any idea what are you doing?
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