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Earendal✭✭✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »It's always a pleasure to fight you guys. But I must add, something fishy happened at 'camp havok' we all died from fall damage...lol
All the other fights were fair victories, without question. But you should throw in some of those wipes to give it that 'authentic' feel. You guys are too good to make highlight reels, do uninterrupted footage.
Should probably tell your members to block meteor if they're having issues with fall damage. Also, implying that the Battle for Fort Havoc wasn't fair on our part is absurd... you probably had 2 full groups. But that is besides the point, it was a fun fight. We're still waiting for someone to deal us our first 10v10 loss, maybe you should put together a group.
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✭✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »It's always a pleasure to fight you guys. But I must add, something fishy happened at 'camp havok' we all died from fall damage...lol
All the other fights were fair victories, without question. But you should throw in some of those wipes to give it that 'authentic' feel. You guys are too good to make highlight reels, do uninterrupted footage.
Should probably tell your members to block meteor if they're having issues with fall damage. Also, implying that the Battle for Fort Havoc wasn't fair on our part is absurd... you probably had 2 full groups. But that is besides the point, it was a fun fight. We're still waiting for someone to deal us our first 10v10 loss, maybe you should put together a group.
One day I hope to give you guys a run for your money there. Organized 10v10 sounds like a lot of fun, kinda like the old arena style battles we used to try to organize as a 4-man.Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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CN_Daniel✭✭✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »It's always a pleasure to fight you guys. But I must add, something fishy happened at 'camp havok' we all died from fall damage...lol
All the other fights were fair victories, without question. But you should throw in some of those wipes to give it that 'authentic' feel. You guys are too good to make highlight reels, do uninterrupted footage.
Should probably tell your members to block meteor if they're having issues with fall damage. Also, implying that the Battle for Fort Havoc wasn't fair on our part is absurd... you probably had 2 full groups. But that is besides the point, it was a fun fight. We're still waiting for someone to deal us our first 10v10 loss, maybe you should put together a group.
I sense some hostility in your response. Good fights with you guys last night trying to dethrone us.Edited by CN_Daniel on July 4, 2015 8:43PM0 -
NedicWildling✭✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »NPK Daniel wrote: »It's always a pleasure to fight you guys. But I must add, something fishy happened at 'camp havok' we all died from fall damage...lol
All the other fights were fair victories, without question. But you should throw in some of those wipes to give it that 'authentic' feel. You guys are too good to make highlight reels, do uninterrupted footage.
Should probably tell your members to block meteor if they're having issues with fall damage. Also, implying that the Battle for Fort Havoc wasn't fair on our part is absurd... you probably had 2 full groups. But that is besides the point, it was a fun fight. We're still waiting for someone to deal us our first 10v10 loss, maybe you should put together a group.
I sense some hostility in your response. Good fights with you guys last night trying to dethrone us.
You really expect him not to react when you insinuate they had something to do with the fall damage your group got? Get your 10 together and when you loose chalk it up again to fall damage.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting comments]Edited by ZOS_Racheal on July 5, 2015 2:40AM1 -
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✭bosmern_ESO wrote: »the only noteworthy thing was that tower fight, although it only shows how broken grind-to-win is, with the absurd amount of regen and general self sustain once you get high end consumables, gold items and champ points.
Show me similar action with no champ points and green/blue stock items and consumables, then I will give credit where its due.
Why would you ever handicap yourself like that? If he can afford buying gold mats (if he even bought them) and can make his armor (or pay for his armor) to maxed out he has every right you use it, why wouldn't you? That stuff is there to be used.
sure, but the gear advantage, level advantage and champ point advantage is not making him a good player.... it is one of the reasons why this game and every other MMO will be nothing more than PvP for scrubs, because if you will level the ground to equal state with low regens and high skill costs, they can't compete, because they only know spam.
I like the game's PvP for the fun time at sieges and sometiems small scale skirmish, but all this ball rolling and skill spamming with endless regen and crazy dmg output is meh... Competitive PvP this will be not... It's a game for ego strokers that need to grind-to-win...
I like to see some skill involved, but most of the videos revolve around a screen full of *** flying around and mashing same sequence of buttons all the time and relying on superior grind...
Of course if someone is a higher level then another they will be stronger, if that wasn't true no one would have the incentive to level. If you 1v1'd him with the same stats, same class, same everything he'd probably beat you. If you are going to complain how armor and levels makes it unfair then you should go get better armor and level up, its that simple.
ESO is a progression MMO, meaning those who spend more time playing and put more effort in the game will be awarded over those who don't. It's funny you say that its pvp for 'scrubs' when you are asking to make pvp extremely casual and to allow those who play maybe 2 hours a day to be able to compete with people who spend 10+ hours playing, that's just dumb.~Thallen~1 -
qsnoopyjr✭✭✭✭Should let the game play itself and not cover it up with background music, which I find the background music annoying.
There's no feelings in this video, too many snippets and that music doesn't help at all, get rid of the cover music.Edited by qsnoopyjr on July 4, 2015 10:44PM0 -
k1llorbek1lled✭✭✭Should let the game play itself and not cover it up with background music, which I find the background music annoying.
There's no feelings in this video, too many snippets and that music doesn't help at all, get rid of the cover music.
That's your opinion, I like the music. I rather hear that than your guild leaders annoying voice and cuss words every 2 seconds while you guys zerg like 8-16 people with 2-3 FULL raids thinking you have good clips.Edited by k1llorbek1lled on July 5, 2015 12:13AMstop the zerging4 -
Roselle✭✭✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »It's always a pleasure to fight you guys. But I must add, something fishy happened at 'camp havok' we all died from fall damage...lol
All the other fights were fair victories, without question. But you should throw in some of those wipes to give it that 'authentic' feel. You guys are too good to make highlight reels, do uninterrupted footage.
Should probably tell your members to block meteor if they're having issues with fall damage. Also, implying that the Battle for Fort Havoc wasn't fair on our part is absurd... you probably had 2 full groups. But that is besides the point, it was a fun fight. We're still waiting for someone to deal us our first 10v10 loss, maybe you should put together a group.
If they did the uninterrupted footage, it would be too busy with them trying to defend all their loses by saying they only had like 12 people. =pThis one was rekt by Zenimax2 -
Phoenix99✭✭✭bosmern_ESO wrote: »bosmern_ESO wrote: »the only noteworthy thing was that tower fight, although it only shows how broken grind-to-win is, with the absurd amount of regen and general self sustain once you get high end consumables, gold items and champ points.
Show me similar action with no champ points and green/blue stock items and consumables, then I will give credit where its due.
Why would you ever handicap yourself like that? If he can afford buying gold mats (if he even bought them) and can make his armor (or pay for his armor) to maxed out he has every right you use it, why wouldn't you? That stuff is there to be used.
sure, but the gear advantage, level advantage and champ point advantage is not making him a good player.... it is one of the reasons why this game and every other MMO will be nothing more than PvP for scrubs, because if you will level the ground to equal state with low regens and high skill costs, they can't compete, because they only know spam.
I like the game's PvP for the fun time at sieges and sometiems small scale skirmish, but all this ball rolling and skill spamming with endless regen and crazy dmg output is meh... Competitive PvP this will be not... It's a game for ego strokers that need to grind-to-win...
I like to see some skill involved, but most of the videos revolve around a screen full of *** flying around and mashing same sequence of buttons all the time and relying on superior grind...
Of course if someone is a higher level then another they will be stronger, if that wasn't true no one would have the incentive to level. If you 1v1'd him with the same stats, same class, same everything he'd probably beat you. If you are going to complain how armor and levels makes it unfair then you should go get better armor and level up, its that simple.
ESO is a progression MMO, meaning those who spend more time playing and put more effort in the game will be awarded over those who don't. It's funny you say that its pvp for 'scrubs' when you are asking to make pvp extremely casual and to allow those who play maybe 2 hours a day to be able to compete with people who spend 10+ hours playing, that's just dumb.
More time grinding /= better
MMOs are for casual PvPrs by default, exactly because of the better gear, lvls etc.
You want competitive, you play games like CS:GO, DotA, SC, LoL... that's competitive. Those games will teach you that amount of games, time played, etc. deos not make yo a better player. You may have good understanding of the game, but it is not the same as being good. There you can even have technically better gear, but it gives you only a slight edge, unlike here, where you get mad regens and survivabiliy, based on spammability.
It is the same reason fwhy for example a game like diablo, never became a popular PvP game, because it rewarded grind way more than skill.
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Xexpo✭✭✭✭✭The vid needs more Blazing Spear spam and just a little more Repentance.
I think he almost used a third skill but, I fell asleep before I saw it happen.
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✭The Havoc teams has one of the best group coordination levels in PVP. Yes there are several skills that alone warrant spamming and yes lots of players on all sides use them. But without a doubt Havoc is one of the top PVP group simply because they work together as a team and that alone makes them so strong. Take a lesson from their play book and learn to stay together. Spamming buttons is easy but timing is what it is all about. Nice video guys keep up the good work.
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Observant✭✭✭✭They're aboot to meet their match in a couple months though
Can't wait to finally take rhm head on again!Vehemence1 -
Erwen✭✭They're aboot to meet their match in a couple months though
Can't wait to finally take rhm head on again!
every update is the same "they are about to meet their match"... just face that we work hard to get our group better, maybe if you guys do the same one day you will get on the same level as we are now Proud to be Havoc.1 -
aco5712✭✭✭✭✭Banned for Naming and Shaming exploiters. Great ideology ZOS.
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Alt: Leo Cor | Nightblade
Alt: Leonidas Cor | Templar
Guild: K-Hole
Youtube: CorESO
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Rook_Master✭✭✭✭✭So everyone is excited about the new meta?
Because honestly this has a lot to do with why PvP is dying.
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✭✭✭They're aboot to meet their match in a couple months though
Can't wait to finally take rhm head on again!
every update is the same "they are about to meet their match"... just face that we work hard to get our group better, maybe if you guys do the same one day you will get on the same level as we are now
There's nothing but respect for Havoc in our group, I don't think the comment was meant poorly. Just excited to get leveled and have some good fights.
Edited by Satiar on July 6, 2015 6:03PMVehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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Observant✭✭✭✭They're aboot to meet their match in a couple months though
Can't wait to finally take rhm head on again!
every update is the same "they are about to meet their match"... just face that we work hard to get our group better, maybe if you guys do the same one day you will get on the same level as we are now
There's nothing but respect for Havoc in our group, I don't think the comment was meant poorly.
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I understand Havoc is in PR Defense mode, but that was meant to be a playful teaser that you took to a new level.
See you on the battlefield, friend! @ErwenEdited by Observant on July 6, 2015 6:07PMVehemence0 -
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First it was bats, then it was oil, then impulse, then wall of elements, ad infinitum. The Q_Q train never stops. You would prefer a recap full of Steel Tornado? That's what I get whenever we fight any other organized group, yet you don't hear me complaining. The fact is that people who min/max will always use the ability that offers the most bang for the buck. If you don't like it maybe PvP, or MMORPGs in general, aren't the place for you. If there were multiple skills that did the exact same damage, or offered other benefits that outweighed the dps loss, they would be used. Unfortunately, there are not many options.Rook_Master wrote: »So everyone is excited about the new meta?
Because honestly this has a lot to do with why PvP is dying.
In response to the other images, even stupid squirrels get acorns.Earendal - AD Templar
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CN_Daniel✭✭✭✭We've been studying y'all and picking up some awesome exploits on the way :-)
I love the "everyone rush the tower but healers touch the outside walls and heal through the walls tactic"; we've been using it since i caught you guys doing it.
Your team has an amazing understanding of the game's mechanics and take advantage of anything possible. Which is fair in war.0 -
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First it was bats, then it was oil, then impulse, then wall of elements, ad infinitum. The Q_Q train never stops. You would prefer a recap full of Steel Tornado? That's what I get whenever we fight any other organized group, yet you don't hear me complaining. The fact is that people who min/max will always use the ability that offers the most bang for the buck. If you don't like it maybe PvP, or MMORPGs in general, aren't the place for you. If there were multiple skills that did the exact same damage, or offered other benefits that outweighed the dps loss, they would be used. Unfortunately, there are not many options.Rook_Master wrote: »So everyone is excited about the new meta?
Because honestly this has a lot to do with why PvP is dying.
In response to the other images, even stupid squirrels get acorns.
If you see lots of Steel Tornados, safe to say that they probably all using double sharpened maces too :P
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JDar✭✭✭✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »We've been studying y'all and picking up some awesome exploits on the way :-)
I love the "everyone rush the tower but healers touch the outside walls and heal through the walls tactic"; we've been using it since i caught you guys doing it.
Your team has an amazing understanding of the game's mechanics and take advantage of anything possible. Which is fair in war.
Well the naming and shaming rule won't apply to you any more then. You're demonstrating that you have no shame by seeking out exploits and reveling in amorality.
Stay away from the Dark Side.
Edited by JDar on July 7, 2015 5:29PM1
