New Strongest Class Predictions

FireCowCommando
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We have gotten basically no information, but there are tons of idea's out there already as to the new meta. Cast your vote! Feel free to discuss
Edited by FireCowCommando on July 6, 2015 2:37PM

New Strongest Class Predictions 232 votes

Templar
9%
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Sorc
15%
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Dragon Knight
11%
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Nightblade
64%
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  • Rook_Master
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    Nightblade
    Right now, sorc.

    After detect pot and block nerf? Nightblade
  • aco5712
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    i think with DK GDB being scaled off health missing and nothing else. DK is gonna be a hard thing to kill.
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  • DDuke
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    Sorc
    Not really the "new" strongest class, but whatever...

    Sorc, closely followed by magicka NB based on current information. We'll have to see after they reveal more information.
  • NotSo
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    Nightblade
    Everybody stinkin' sorcerers are so good.
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  • starlizard70ub17_ESO
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    Sorc
    It's a toss up between Sorc and NB, really depends on the final ajustments the devs make.
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  • vortexman11
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    Nightblade
    Magicka Nightblade specifically
    aco5712 wrote: »
    i think with DK GDB being scaled off health missing and nothing else. DK is gonna be a hard thing to kill.
    Not even close. The fact that in 1.6 people are given such low health makes DK skills like DragonsBlood extremely weak, healing ward can heal up to 3 times as much as DragonsBlood, now ontop of that, healing is being changed from a 15% debuff in Cyrodiil to a 50% debuff. This means that DKs are going to start seeing what... 4k heals on average when they're at low heath? The only thing that makes the skill effective is when you pair it with Igneous Shield and the fact that its almost instant.
    Edited by vortexman11 on July 6, 2015 2:54PM
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  • AhPook_Is_Here
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    Nightblade
    aco5712 wrote: »
    i think with DK GDB being scaled off health missing and nothing else. DK is gonna be a hard thing to kill.

    They will cut the percent return in PVP from 30% to 15%. it's healing it will be cut in half.
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  • Bashev
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    Nightblade
    NB - because clock getting buff.
    Sorc - because Nirn getting fixed and no stamina regen while blocking. That means almost every charge you do either you will be stunned or you wont generate stamina while blocking. Every sors will cast 3 times in a row BE and then mines then if need 3 more times BE. Without Nirn tanks will have 30k spell resistance while sors will have 20k spell penetration. Sors execute's damage is increased.
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  • Chesimac
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    Nightblade
    As far as we know, nightblades look the best coming into the update. Sap Tanks will be the ones you see tanking 10+ in pvp and it would not be surprising to start seeing sap tanks as the main tanks for leaderboard vdsa and trial groups. Stamina nightblade will still be the strongest stamina build in pvp, and the most common build in pvp will probably be a proxy-bats magicka nightblade
  • Pchela
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    Nightblade
    Chesimac wrote: »
    As far as we know, nightblades look the best coming into the update. Sap Tanks will be the ones you see tanking 10+ in pvp and it would not be surprising to start seeing sap tanks as the main tanks for leaderboard vdsa and trial groups. Stamina nightblade will still be the strongest stamina build in pvp, and the most common build in pvp will probably be a proxy-bats magicka nightblade

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  • FireCowCommando
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    Nightblade
    Chesimac wrote: »
    As far as we know, nightblades look the best coming into the update. Sap Tanks will be the ones you see tanking 10+ in pvp and it would not be surprising to start seeing sap tanks as the main tanks for leaderboard vdsa and trial groups. Stamina nightblade will still be the strongest stamina build in pvp, and the most common build in pvp will probably be a proxy-bats magicka nightblade

    Yeah... I have a difficult time not thinking NB will be the strongest as well. Cloak appears like its going to be very, very strong. Combo a mix of dodge roll (can only be hit by AoE) with Cloak (can only be hit by AoE) and you get a pretty strong active defense. If there is still a way to kill a player in a few seconds... Q_Q

    Not to mention the detection potion change. It seems players really will be forced to start using Revealing Flare.
    Edited by FireCowCommando on July 6, 2015 3:20PM
  • Darklord_Tiberius
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    Nightblade
    I love how Templar has 0 votes, so awesome lol.
  • FireCowCommando
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    Nightblade
    I love how Templar has 0 votes, so awesome lol.

    Dont worry buddy! I am sure ZoS will fix templars the next major content update after this one!... Yeah...
  • OdinForge
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    I don't believe nightblade will be the strongest class, with damage and healing nerfs and a much longer TTK. Nightblades really do need to be able to kill quick, there are other ways to build much tankier specs but that will be nerfed as well and not viable for NB.

    Cloak could become an issue with the detect pot nerf, but only for magicka based NB and not as a whole for the class. But if we're doing garbage damage anyway, we'll probably need to spam cloak for a long fight to stay alive..

    I still think Sorc will be on top, every other class seems fisted by these changes.
    Edited by OdinForge on July 6, 2015 3:59PM
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  • Phoenix99
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    Nightblade
    if the detect potion will not work vs their invis, then they will be THE strongest class.
  • Iyas
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    Nightblade
    Phoenix99 wrote: »
    if the detect potion will not work vs their invis, then they will be THE strongest class.

    Agree
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  • Master_Kas
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    Sorc
    You all forgetting something. No penalty on shieldstacking:

    That makes me think that magicka sorc will be the strongest, probably magicka nightblade also.
    Keep in mind hardened ward costs less than cloak :)

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  • tplink3r1
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    Sorc
    Shieldstacking...
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  • ksimpscnub18_ESO
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    Nightblade
    One ability, Siphoning Attacks.

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  • Sureshawt
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    Sorc
    LOL...Templar actually got a single vote!

    Sorc stays on top easily. They will still be able to cast damage shields indefinitely and still dish damage out.

    NBs will be strong but cannot damage while using there defensive ability as effectively.

    DKs is a toss up but with increased overall TTK they could be the wild card for a close number 2 spot.

    Templar.......stay out of the fight as much as possible and support your teammates I guess. Occasionally beam an almost dead player if you happen to be a magic build.
    Edited by Sureshawt on July 6, 2015 5:25PM
  • Erock25
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    Nightblade
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    You all forgetting something. No penalty on shieldstacking:

    That makes me think that magicka sorc will be the strongest, probably magicka nightblade also.
    Keep in mind hardened ward costs less than cloak :)

    Keep in mind that all the shieldstacking in the world won't save you from 2-3 competent players, while Cloak will, especially after supposed detect pot change.

    People go on and on about shield stacking but Sorc only has ONE shield. What does a 20k HP dragonknight Igneous Shield figure out to? Because my 28k magicka Hardened Ward is about 10k worth of shielding in Cyrodiil.
    Edited by Erock25 on July 6, 2015 5:21PM
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  • Master_Kas
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    You all forgetting something. No penalty on shieldstacking:

    That makes me think that magicka sorc will be the strongest, probably magicka nightblade also.
    Keep in mind hardened ward costs less than cloak :)

    Keep in mind that all the shieldstacking in the world won't save you from 2-3 competent players, while Cloak will, especially after supposed detect pot change.

    People go on and on about shield stacking but Sorc only has ONE shield. What does a 20k HP dragonknight Igneous Shield figure out to? Because my 28k magicka Hardened Ward is about 10k worth of shielding in Cyrodiil.

    This reminds me of the pre 1.6 "sorc is dead" talk.
    You will still have the best class shield while dk/temp shields will suffer more.
    And 2-3 competent players can and will shut down even a competent nightblade. Unless he permacloaks away from the fight but theres nothing strong about running away imo :)
    Also I did put manablades there with sorcs also, since stamblades cannot cloak many times unless they spec more into mana regen/cost reduct in which case they will suffer on their stam regen/cost reduct. we'll see.:)

    Edit: My hardened ward is 11-13k in cyro depending on My gear-setup while My dk shield is 4-5k .
    Then every class has class and other skills which can break cloak still . But I don't need to write them all up do I?
    Edited by Master_Kas on July 6, 2015 5:36PM
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  • Eejit1331
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    I bet all votes that sorc will be OP after the update came from OP NB. ZOS should get rid of the NB class and replace the Sorc Unstable Familiar with a back stabbing, infinite cloaking NB pet And then they would be OP.
    Edited by Eejit1331 on July 6, 2015 5:44PM
  • Publius_Scipio
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    One ability, Siphoning Attacks.

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  • tplink3r1
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    Sorc
    Erock25 wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    You all forgetting something. No penalty on shieldstacking:

    That makes me think that magicka sorc will be the strongest, probably magicka nightblade also.
    Keep in mind hardened ward costs less than cloak :)

    Keep in mind that all the shieldstacking in the world won't save you from 2-3 competent players, while Cloak will, especially after supposed detect pot change.

    People go on and on about shield stacking but Sorc only has ONE shield. What does a 20k HP dragonknight Igneous Shield figure out to? Because my 28k magicka Hardened Ward is about 10k worth of shielding in Cyrodiil.
    Right, cause it should take 3 skilled players to kill a sorc.
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  • rb2001
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    Nightblade
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  • Xsorus
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    Nightblade
    Its going to be nightblades, The changes to Cloak alone insure that....No single target attacks knocking them out of stealth? throw in detect pots not working..Yea....

    Start adding all the other little things they did and you end up with Magicka Nightblades being over the top.

    Sorcs will probably be second, and DK and Templar will probably be tied for bottom.
  • Publius_Scipio
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    Xsorus wrote: »
    Its going to be nightblades, The changes to Cloak alone insure that....No single target attacks knocking them out of stealth? throw in detect pots not working..Yea....

    Start adding all the other little things they did and you end up with Magicka Nightblades being over the top.

    Sorcs will probably be second, and DK and Templar will probably be tied for bottom.

    What happened to stamina NB being the way to go post 1.6 (if you wanted to be a NB)? You saying after next major update stam NB no longer viable?
  • Eejit1331
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    Nightblade
    Xsorus wrote: »
    Its going to be nightblades, The changes to Cloak alone insure that....No single target attacks knocking them out of stealth? throw in detect pots not working..Yea....

    Start adding all the other little things they did and you end up with Magicka Nightblades being over the top.

    Sorcs will probably be second, and DK and Templar will probably be tied for bottom.

    What happened to stamina NB being the way to go post 1.6 (if you wanted to be a NB)? You saying after next major update stam NB no longer viable?

    They will be second best.
  • Xsorus
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    Nightblade
    Xsorus wrote: »
    Its going to be nightblades, The changes to Cloak alone insure that....No single target attacks knocking them out of stealth? throw in detect pots not working..Yea....

    Start adding all the other little things they did and you end up with Magicka Nightblades being over the top.

    Sorcs will probably be second, and DK and Templar will probably be tied for bottom.

    What happened to stamina NB being the way to go post 1.6 (if you wanted to be a NB)? You saying after next major update stam NB no longer viable?

    Stamina Nightblades will probably still be good, The drop in burst is a problem because Stamina Nightblades rely on killing targets quickly...Dodge Change means they take more damage as well since they'll have to dodge less.

    Pretty much all the defense abilities in the game are getting nerfed, the one that's not eating a nerf is Dark Cloak, so anytime they Dark Cloak think of it as a form of Mitigation where they aren't taking damage similar to Dodge Roll now.



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