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Irrelephants.
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NotSo✭✭✭✭I'd argue that all instances of mage archetypes have some form of "oh sh**" spells to keep melee range at bay. Be it teleporting away, glueing them to the ground, or anything really. Yes, dragon knights have more spells for close up. But, I think that would help to maintain a distanced playstyle more than you realize.Gar'Sol the Wanderer VR14 Khajiit Sorcerer Spellblade0 -
notimetocare✭✭✭✭✭
✭notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »1) All destruction magic comes out of destruction staff skill line.
2) All classes have skills that synergies with ranged and melee playstyles.
3) By your definition, sorcerer is the only "mage" in the game. You are wronging all over yourself.
To number 1... uh...lol no. You really do not understand Elder Scrolls do you?
Uh... how was this at all helpful or constructive to the conversation.
It mocks his spread of bull s. info.
Well first off, mocking on the forums isn't allowed. Secondly, can we get someone in here to mock your spread of bull s. info?
Feel free to try. Im not worried about what people say.0 -
notimetocare✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'd argue that all instances of mage archetypes have some form of "oh sh**" spells to keep melee range at bay. Be it teleporting away, glueing them to the ground, or anything really. Yes, dragon knights have more spells for close up. But, I think that would help to maintain a distanced playstyle more than you realize.
Your perception of mage, not what the category of 'mage' entails.0 -
NotSo✭✭✭✭@notimetocare. . . please. . . stop. . .
I have no idea what you are on about.
My perception of mage was a result of all mages I have ever played. So what category would exclude anything I have said thus far?
Mages sling spells. End of story.Edited by NotSo on July 5, 2015 7:38PMGar'Sol the Wanderer VR14 Khajiit Sorcerer Spellblade0 -
dodgehopper_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I can tell you why the Sorcerer has the skill it has. If you have ever played the previous TES games you would know that Lightning damage is concerned the 'ultimately' pure magic attack. Fire and Ice are useful, but there is an aesthetic that mages like about lightning (it also drained magicka from your enemies, in mage vs. mage). Additionally, most of the Mages Guild members also tended to favor Conjuration as a skill line, as well as mysticism. Dark Deal looks a whole lot like a mysticism ability to me. Ward looks a whole like like an Alteration or Mysticism ability to me. I think the power choices fit very well for theme.
I will say though that I am with you they should have found a way to make Ice more relevant and common. The weak secondary effects and lack of any class bonus have relegated Ice to sub par effect. It can be used, its just not as effective (which is a complaint of Nord players as they never face Ice hardly). Most sorcerers like to use Fire Staves with some of their own Lightning attacks (That disintegrate proc is pretty amazing). I recommend that you play around with this until they release Spellcrafting to the game.US/AD - Dodge Hopper - Vet Imperial Templar | US/AD - Goj-ei-Raj - Vet Argonian Nightblade
US/AD - Arondonimo - Vet Altmer Sorcerer | US/AD - Azumarax - Vet Dunmer Dragon Knight
US/AD - Barkan al-Sheharesh - Vet Redguard Dragon Knight | US/AD - Aelus Vortavoriil - Vet Altmer Templar
US/AD - Shirari Qa'Dar - Vet Khajiit Nightblade | US/AD - Ndvari Mzunchvolenthumz - Vet Bosmer Nightblade
US/EP - Yngmar - Vet Nord Dragon Knight | US/EP - Reloth Ur Fyr - Vet Dunmer Sorcerer
US/DC - Muiredeach - Vet Breton Sorcerer | US/DC - Nachtrabe - Vet Orc Nightblade
EU/DC - Dragol gro-Unglak - Vet Orc Dragon Knight | EU/DC - Targan al-Barkan - Vet Redguard Templar
EU/DC - Wuthmir - Vet Nord Sorcerer | EU/DC - Kosh Ragotoro - Vet Khajiit Nightblade
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Chaos0720✭✭✭@notimetocare. . . please. . . stop. . .
I have no idea what you are on about.
My perception of mage was a result of all mages I have ever played. So what category would exclude anything I have said thus far?
Mages sling spells. End of story.
Also mr. @notimetocare you may not be aware of this, but people are allowed to have different opinions. You've made it obvious that you are doing nothing more than being a troll. If you want some attention, I'll play the game with you. Just stop trying to act like a hard a** on the forums. It's not even like the concept of these classes being used as mages is specific to this person. There a handful of guides for builds exactly like this.
So, as @NotSo said... Please just stop.
Join me on ps4. I'll pay attention to you if that's what you need. (not in a creepy way either cause I ain't into that)
Sorry had to edit. The forum didn't censor the a word.Edited by Chaos0720 on July 5, 2015 7:48PM0 -
notimetocare✭✭✭✭✭
✭@notimetocare. . . please. . . stop. . .
I have no idea what you are on about.
My perception of mage was a result of all mages I have ever played. So what category would exclude anything I have said thus far?
Mages sling spells. End of story.
Also mr. @notimetocare you may not be aware of this, but people are allowed to have different opinions. You've made it obvious that you are doing nothing more than being a troll. If you want some attention, I'll play the game with you. Just stop trying to act like a hard a** on the forums. It's not even like the concept of these classes being used as mages is specific to this person. There a handful of guides for builds exactly like this.
So, as @NotSo said... Please just stop.
Join me on ps4. I'll pay attention to you if that's what you need. (not in a creepy way either cause I ain't into that)
Sorry had to edit. The forum didn't censor the a word.
Different opinions? Sure. Does not make them right. It was claimed destruction staff is only destruction spells. It is simply not the case. Additionally, mage encompasses a person who uses and studies magic (i.e. most magic users).
Also, I would never play an ES or MMO on consoles. Too much missed.0 -
Chaos0720✭✭✭notimetocare wrote: »@notimetocare. . . please. . . stop. . .
I have no idea what you are on about.
My perception of mage was a result of all mages I have ever played. So what category would exclude anything I have said thus far?
Mages sling spells. End of story.
Also mr. @notimetocare you may not be aware of this, but people are allowed to have different opinions. You've made it obvious that you are doing nothing more than being a troll. If you want some attention, I'll play the game with you. Just stop trying to act like a hard a** on the forums. It's not even like the concept of these classes being used as mages is specific to this person. There a handful of guides for builds exactly like this.
So, as @NotSo said... Please just stop.
Join me on ps4. I'll pay attention to you if that's what you need. (not in a creepy way either cause I ain't into that)
Sorry had to edit. The forum didn't censor the a word.
Different opinions? Sure. Does not make them right. It was claimed destruction staff is only destruction spells. It is simply not the case. Additionally, mage encompasses a person who uses and studies magic (i.e. most magic users).
Also, I would never play an ES or MMO on consoles. Too much missed.
So you have nothing better to do with your life than to be on here? You're a sad person.0 -
notimetocare✭✭✭✭✭
✭notimetocare wrote: »@notimetocare. . . please. . . stop. . .
I have no idea what you are on about.
My perception of mage was a result of all mages I have ever played. So what category would exclude anything I have said thus far?
Mages sling spells. End of story.
Also mr. @notimetocare you may not be aware of this, but people are allowed to have different opinions. You've made it obvious that you are doing nothing more than being a troll. If you want some attention, I'll play the game with you. Just stop trying to act like a hard a** on the forums. It's not even like the concept of these classes being used as mages is specific to this person. There a handful of guides for builds exactly like this.
So, as @NotSo said... Please just stop.
Join me on ps4. I'll pay attention to you if that's what you need. (not in a creepy way either cause I ain't into that)
Sorry had to edit. The forum didn't censor the a word.
Different opinions? Sure. Does not make them right. It was claimed destruction staff is only destruction spells. It is simply not the case. Additionally, mage encompasses a person who uses and studies magic (i.e. most magic users).
Also, I would never play an ES or MMO on consoles. Too much missed.
So you have nothing better to do with your life than to be on here? You're a sad person.
Gotta do something while I eat and RP.0 -
notimetocare wrote: »@notimetocare. . . please. . . stop. . .
I have no idea what you are on about.
My perception of mage was a result of all mages I have ever played. So what category would exclude anything I have said thus far?
Mages sling spells. End of story.
Also mr. @notimetocare you may not be aware of this, but people are allowed to have different opinions. You've made it obvious that you are doing nothing more than being a troll. If you want some attention, I'll play the game with you. Just stop trying to act like a hard a** on the forums. It's not even like the concept of these classes being used as mages is specific to this person. There a handful of guides for builds exactly like this.
So, as @NotSo said... Please just stop.
Join me on ps4. I'll pay attention to you if that's what you need. (not in a creepy way either cause I ain't into that)
Sorry had to edit. The forum didn't censor the a word.
Different opinions? Sure. Does not make them right. It was claimed destruction staff is only destruction spells. It is simply not the case. Additionally, mage encompasses a person who uses and studies magic (i.e. most magic users).
Also, I would never play an ES or MMO on consoles. Too much missed.
So you have nothing better to do with your life than to be on here? You're a sad person.
Getting back to why this conversation is important: You are ALL wrong.
SedoUmbra, your head is stuck in Skyrim. This is not Skyrim. This is what happens when you take everything good about Skyrim and combine it with everything good about MMORPGs. That's the part you are missing. This is not Skyrim by any means, its an MMORPG and thus will behave very differently. Luckily for you though, the builds in this game can be incredibly different from one another and still work, unlike in other games when this fact in this game is not even close to being fact in those instances. For example, I run a Nightblade Healer. Its incredibly odd to most, but I have found a way to make it work.
If you want to make your fire mage as a Templar, Dragonknight, Nightblade, or Sorcerer, go for it. Just pick skills that will compliment each other nicely and do not be afraid to experiment.
As for everyone else on here, stop trolling or baiting the trolls. Also, if you had approached Sedo with this explanation sooner, you would not have wasted hours of your time and approximately 15 minutes of mine. Instead, you probably would have only wasted about 10 minutes of your own time.
-Sincerely, the guy who will whack you through your computer screen if you keep bickering like you are five years old.
P.S. I do not mean to insult any of you, but you are acting like five year old children bickering. I work in fast food and I see five year olds on a daily basis, and this is exactly what they do, rattling on about things that either A. don't matter or B. don't make sense. This conversation, at this point, is probably a mix of both.PSN Username: AtomicSpatula
Veteran Rank 1 Argonian Nightblade Healer: Sight-of-Amber"Words have the power to both destroy and heal. When words are both true and kind, they can change our world"
-Siddhartha Gautama1 -
NotSo✭✭✭✭To be fair, I'm swimming through all of the forums today. I have all the time to waste.Gar'Sol the Wanderer VR14 Khajiit Sorcerer Spellblade0
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notimetocare✭✭✭✭✭
✭AtomicSpatula wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »@notimetocare. . . please. . . stop. . .
I have no idea what you are on about.
My perception of mage was a result of all mages I have ever played. So what category would exclude anything I have said thus far?
Mages sling spells. End of story.
Also mr. @notimetocare you may not be aware of this, but people are allowed to have different opinions. You've made it obvious that you are doing nothing more than being a troll. If you want some attention, I'll play the game with you. Just stop trying to act like a hard a** on the forums. It's not even like the concept of these classes being used as mages is specific to this person. There a handful of guides for builds exactly like this.
So, as @NotSo said... Please just stop.
Join me on ps4. I'll pay attention to you if that's what you need. (not in a creepy way either cause I ain't into that)
Sorry had to edit. The forum didn't censor the a word.
Different opinions? Sure. Does not make them right. It was claimed destruction staff is only destruction spells. It is simply not the case. Additionally, mage encompasses a person who uses and studies magic (i.e. most magic users).
Also, I would never play an ES or MMO on consoles. Too much missed.
So you have nothing better to do with your life than to be on here? You're a sad person.
Getting back to why this conversation is important: You are ALL wrong.
SedoUmbra, your head is stuck in Skyrim. This is not Skyrim. This is what happens when you take everything good about Skyrim and combine it with everything good about MMORPGs. That's the part you are missing. This is not Skyrim by any means, its an MMORPG and thus will behave very differently. Luckily for you though, the builds in this game can be incredibly different from one another and still work, unlike in other games when this fact in this game is not even close to being fact in those instances. For example, I run a Nightblade Healer. Its incredibly odd to most, but I have found a way to make it work.
If you want to make your fire mage as a Templar, Dragonknight, Nightblade, or Sorcerer, go for it. Just pick skills that will compliment each other nicely and do not be afraid to experiment.
As for everyone else on here, stop trolling or baiting the trolls. Also, if you had approached Sedo with this explanation sooner, you would not have wasted hours of your time and approximately 15 minutes of mine. Instead, you probably would have only wasted about 10 minutes of your own time.
-Sincerely, the guy who will whack you through your computer screen if you keep bickering like you are five years old.
P.S. I do not mean to insult any of you, but you are acting like five year old children bickering. I work in fast food and I see five year olds on a daily basis, and this is exactly what they do, rattling on about things that either A. don't matter or B. don't make sense. This conversation, at this point, is probably a mix of both.
*stomps feet screaming* But I wanted the blue toy!0 -
Chaos0720✭✭✭notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »@notimetocare. . . please. . . stop. . .
I have no idea what you are on about.
My perception of mage was a result of all mages I have ever played. So what category would exclude anything I have said thus far?
Mages sling spells. End of story.
Also mr. @notimetocare you may not be aware of this, but people are allowed to have different opinions. You've made it obvious that you are doing nothing more than being a troll. If you want some attention, I'll play the game with you. Just stop trying to act like a hard a** on the forums. It's not even like the concept of these classes being used as mages is specific to this person. There a handful of guides for builds exactly like this.
So, as @NotSo said... Please just stop.
Join me on ps4. I'll pay attention to you if that's what you need. (not in a creepy way either cause I ain't into that)
Sorry had to edit. The forum didn't censor the a word.
Different opinions? Sure. Does not make them right. It was claimed destruction staff is only destruction spells. It is simply not the case. Additionally, mage encompasses a person who uses and studies magic (i.e. most magic users).
Also, I would never play an ES or MMO on consoles. Too much missed.
So you have nothing better to do with your life than to be on here? You're a sad person.
Gotta do something while I eat and RP.
Ah. Okay. Well enjoy your meal. I'm done humoring you.
Have a good day/evening/morning or whatever it is where you are. 2 -
Chaos0720✭✭✭AtomicSpatula wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »@notimetocare. . . please. . . stop. . .
I have no idea what you are on about.
My perception of mage was a result of all mages I have ever played. So what category would exclude anything I have said thus far?
Mages sling spells. End of story.
Also mr. @notimetocare you may not be aware of this, but people are allowed to have different opinions. You've made it obvious that you are doing nothing more than being a troll. If you want some attention, I'll play the game with you. Just stop trying to act like a hard a** on the forums. It's not even like the concept of these classes being used as mages is specific to this person. There a handful of guides for builds exactly like this.
So, as @NotSo said... Please just stop.
Join me on ps4. I'll pay attention to you if that's what you need. (not in a creepy way either cause I ain't into that)
Sorry had to edit. The forum didn't censor the a word.
Different opinions? Sure. Does not make them right. It was claimed destruction staff is only destruction spells. It is simply not the case. Additionally, mage encompasses a person who uses and studies magic (i.e. most magic users).
Also, I would never play an ES or MMO on consoles. Too much missed.
So you have nothing better to do with your life than to be on here? You're a sad person.
Getting back to why this conversation is important: You are ALL wrong.
SedoUmbra, your head is stuck in Skyrim. This is not Skyrim. This is what happens when you take everything good about Skyrim and combine it with everything good about MMORPGs. That's the part you are missing. This is not Skyrim by any means, its an MMORPG and thus will behave very differently. Luckily for you though, the builds in this game can be incredibly different from one another and still work, unlike in other games when this fact in this game is not even close to being fact in those instances. For example, I run a Nightblade Healer. Its incredibly odd to most, but I have found a way to make it work.
If you want to make your fire mage as a Templar, Dragonknight, Nightblade, or Sorcerer, go for it. Just pick skills that will compliment each other nicely and do not be afraid to experiment.
As for everyone else on here, stop trolling or baiting the trolls. Also, if you had approached Sedo with this explanation sooner, you would not have wasted hours of your time and approximately 15 minutes of mine. Instead, you probably would have only wasted about 10 minutes of your own time.
-Sincerely, the guy who will whack you through your computer screen if you keep bickering like you are five years old.
P.S. I do not mean to insult any of you, but you are acting like five year old children bickering. I work in fast food and I see five year olds on a daily basis, and this is exactly what they do, rattling on about things that either A. don't matter or B. don't make sense. This conversation, at this point, is probably a mix of both.
I'm reporting you for threatening me. People are allowed to have conversations. You don't have any right to come in and tell us what we can and can't talk about.
*MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM DO SOMETHING ABOUT @AtomicSpatula *0 -
NotSo✭✭✭✭Sorry I'm out, going wayyyyyy off topic and quotes are smothering the page.
Hope you figure out a propper mage build to enjoy.Gar'Sol the Wanderer VR14 Khajiit Sorcerer Spellblade1 -
Chaos0720✭✭✭Sorry I'm out, going wayyyyyy off topic and quotes are smothering the page.
Hope you figure out a propper mage build to enjoy.Ok, this is getting ridiculous.
The op had already posted a while back that he made a decision. So everything after this (yes including my posts) are irrelevant.1 -
Vlor✭✭I can't wait for spellcrafting. I sort of agree a bit about wishing other classes had more fire/ice. I really like the classic mage, blowing stuff up from afar. Shadow/blood mage sounded super cool to me, so I keep trying to make my nightblade into that, but the only spell I like is strife/funnel life/swallow soul and cripple and thats kinda it. Though they look cool, I'm not a huge fan of all the nightblade spells being all close ranged. It also looks weird using the shadow magic then switching to dumb looking spells like force shock/crushing shock. -_-
Sorcerer has been the closest thing to what I want and it looks pretty fluid, but I hate lightning. I would much rather have a full ice focused spell line.
I am leveling my sorc right now anyway and waiting for the time when I can make my own spells.
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Chaos0720✭✭✭I can't wait for spellcrafting. I sort of agree a bit about wishing other classes had more fire/ice. I really like the classic mage, blowing stuff up from afar. Shadow/blood mage sounded super cool to me, so I keep trying to make my nightblade into that, but the only spell I like is strife/funnel life/swallow soul and cripple and thats kinda it. Though they look cool, I'm not a huge fan of all the nightblade spells being all close ranged. It also looks weird using the shadow magic then switching to dumb looking spells like force shock/crushing shock. -_-
Sorcerer has been the closest thing to what I want and it looks pretty fluid, but I hate lightning. I would much rather have a full ice focused spell line.
I am leveling my sorc right now anyway and waiting for the time when I can make my own spells.
I like the Path of Shadows ability. I freeze them with the ice staff and then switch to my nighblade skills and throw a path of shadows at them. They get stuck, take DOT (albeit not much) and I can deal with other mobs in the area.0 -
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✭Sorry I'm out, going wayyyyyy off topic and quotes are smothering the page.
Hope you figure out a propper mage build to enjoy.Ok, this is getting ridiculous.
The op had already posted a while back that he made a decision. So everything after this (yes including my posts) are irrelevant.
I am not irrelephant.0 -
Chaos0720✭✭✭notimetocare wrote: »Sorry I'm out, going wayyyyyy off topic and quotes are smothering the page.
Hope you figure out a propper mage build to enjoy.Ok, this is getting ridiculous.
The op had already posted a while back that he made a decision. So everything after this (yes including my posts) are irrelevant.
I am not irrelephant.
We're all irrelephant. Which by the way Irrelephants should be in the guild store. XD
(And I hope you intentionally mispelled that, because I'm not trying to mock you, i thought it was funny.)Edited by Chaos0720 on July 5, 2015 8:46PM0 -
notimetocare✭✭✭✭✭
✭notimetocare wrote: »Sorry I'm out, going wayyyyyy off topic and quotes are smothering the page.
Hope you figure out a propper mage build to enjoy.Ok, this is getting ridiculous.
The op had already posted a while back that he made a decision. So everything after this (yes including my posts) are irrelevant.
I am not irrelephant.
We're all irrelephant. Which by the way Irrelephants should be in the guild store. XD
(And I hope you intentionally mispelled that, because I'm not trying to mock you, i thought it was funny.)
I would buy that mount0 -
Chaos0720✭✭✭Zenimax you need to get on this. Electric pony's and irrelephants... I want. I will throw my dollars at you.0
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Prabooo✭✭✭✭Dragon Knights fight close range, they bring enemies towards them or put themselves towards the enemy. They get into the thick of things and then use some ability or another to keep them alive from some damage resist. Mages deal high damage from a distance and would generally get beaten in melee combat if it was a fair fight -i.e both of similar skill level and XP level- so technically a Dragon Knight can not be a mage.
This one agrees on this statement, DK's magic is based on earth-fire qualities, shields, autoheal and some AoE's... not an "ideal" magicka-based DPS but a very efficient Tank
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Chaos0720✭✭✭Dragon Knights fight close range, they bring enemies towards them or put themselves towards the enemy. They get into the thick of things and then use some ability or another to keep them alive from some damage resist. Mages deal high damage from a distance and would generally get beaten in melee combat if it was a fair fight -i.e both of similar skill level and XP level- so technically a Dragon Knight can not be a mage.
This one agrees on this statement, DK's magic is based on earth-fire qualities, shields, autoheal and some AoE's... not an "ideal" magicka-based DPS but a very efficient Tank
But we're not talking about that any more
we're talking about irrelephants. 0 -
Chaos0720✭✭✭Jokes aside, I think it would be freaking awesome to have elephant mounts.
I think we're supposed to be getting bears. I saw it somewhere, don't know if/when its supposed to happen for sure though.0
