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sorc: power surge vs inner light

BurtFreeman
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this is a discussion to see what the mages prefer to have in their bars: power surge or inner light

i go for power surge in my bar, what do you like?
Edited by BurtFreeman on July 1, 2015 1:22PM

sorc: power surge vs inner light 30 votes

power surge
13%
BurtFreeman Lynx7386mrdaveqcOdovacar 4 votes
inner light
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Nestoreventide03b14a_ESOEuckenDracaneBugCollectorRinaldoGandolphiThelonArtemiisiavaanomegaZlaterMolsondryTheAshenWrathJimbob6AceTheDazedIdesofMarch2 15 votes
both
36%
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  • Lynx7386
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    power surge
    They're entirely different buffs, so if you want you can use both. That said, 10% crit chance will improve your overall dps by 5%, while 20% spell power will improve your overall dps by closer to 20%. It's clear which one is better for raw damage.
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  • Fissh
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    Entropy......
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  • BurtFreeman
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    power surge
    Fissh wrote: »
    Entropy......

    you are right, i use degeneratin in some build, and i always seen it like healing over damage, instead of major sorcery. i will like to fix the poll, but i don't know how to do. sorry

  • Mivryna
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    For casting I like both, but if I'm running pets then I only use power surge. There's just not enough room for all those toggles.
  • Dagoth_Rac
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    They're entirely different buffs, so if you want you can use both. That said, 10% crit chance will improve your overall dps by 5%, while 20% spell power will improve your overall dps by closer to 20%. It's clear which one is better for raw damage.

    Damage comes from a split between max magicka and spell damage. So a 20% increase in Spell Damage is roughly a 10% increase in DPS. Much better than the DPS boost from the crit buff, but Spell Damage does not scale directly to DPS. The amount of your DPS that comes from Spell Damage is:

    (Spell Damage * 10.46) / Max Magicka + (Spell Damage * 10.46)

    So if you have 3500 Spell Damage and 30,000 max magicka:

    (3500 * 10.46) / (30,000 + 3500 * 10.46) = 55%

    So a 20% increase in Spell Damage would equal about 0.55 * 20% = 11% more DPS.
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    Rally :P
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  • DisgracefulMind
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    If you insist on power surge (though I only use it on my overload bar), you should use both. There's no reason to not be running inner light and a spell power buff as they are separate buffs. But entropy is far superior for your regular rotation bar.
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  • LameoveR
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    both
    It's really good to use both.
  • BurtFreeman
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    LameoveR wrote: »
    It's really good to use both.

    as you seen, i've always understimate inner light in my final builds. i really need to get it a better try out.
    thank you for point it.

  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    inner light
    I only use Inner Light in PVE, I use Tri-Stat Spell Power Pots instead of Entropy and Surge. Majory Sorcery, Major Prophecy, and Major Intellect for 40 secs plus restoring magic is better for me then Surge or Entropy. 1 Gold Potion Cooldown enchant i can keep them up 100% of the time and thats been money for me.
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  • BurtFreeman
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    power surge
    I only use Inner Light in PVE, I use Tri-Stat Spell Power Pots instead of Entropy and Surge. Majory Sorcery, Major Prophecy, and Major Intellect for 40 secs plus restoring magic is better for me then Surge or Entropy. 1 Gold Potion Cooldown enchant i can keep them up 100% of the time and thats been money for me.

    i know the way you like alchemy! :) it is what Rinaldo Gandolphi is.
    i also use spell power potion, you can use it on top of them for total devastation, but is also true that 5 slot is not too much to fit all you want in it.

    i will like to have 1 bar with 10 slot instead of 2 :)

  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    inner light
    I only use Inner Light in PVE, I use Tri-Stat Spell Power Pots instead of Entropy and Surge. Majory Sorcery, Major Prophecy, and Major Intellect for 40 secs plus restoring magic is better for me then Surge or Entropy. 1 Gold Potion Cooldown enchant i can keep them up 100% of the time and thats been money for me.

    i know the way you like alchemy! :) it is what Rinaldo Gandolphi is.
    i also use spell power potion, you can use it on top of them for total devastation, but is also true that 5 slot is not too much to fit all you want in it.

    i will like to have 1 bar with 10 slot instead of 2 :)

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  • BurtFreeman
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    The Vampire Killer!

    i am also in that way. hope to fight at your side sometime. :)

  • eventide03b14a_ESO
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    Power Surge is terrible compared to Structured Entropy.
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  • Dracane
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    Who uses Surge ? The question should be, Surge or Entropy ?
    There is no point in using Surge. Entropy deals damage over time, costs basically nothing, gives your next hit 20% more damage and the buff of Entropy is not only 14,4 seconds, it's 21 seconds. Surge is only good for stealth.
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  • Zlater
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    inner light
    If it's surge vs entropy then that's a different debate, both have their strong points. As a tank I prefer the surge mechanics, because it's so annoying when you are buffing up before a boss fight and then a dps decides, "oh I wanna buff up too" and they pull the boss before I apply taunt -.- that's the only reason though, if you can control yourself, use entropy.

    Inner light is so much better because you get a spell critical chance, 7% boost to max magicka, 2% boost to regen and is much cheaper. Remember that max magicka also boosts your raw damage making that 2% damage boost to surge less appealing.
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