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Dear noobs complaining about v16 plz read

Kronosphere
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simple math.
they are reducing each vet level to require 850k exp instead of 1 million but adding 2 more ranks.
do the bloody math. used to be 14 million to get to v14. NOW with the new numbers, it will take (16 x 850k) 13.6million! oooh well would u look at that its 400kLESS to get to max now

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Edited by ZOS_Brett on July 3, 2015 3:13AM
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  • Iluvrien
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    Because, of course, this isn't going to affect anything except from xp... gear for example. You know, the nice, shiny gold gear that people have been working on, running dungeons/trials for months for. Yep, no effect there at all.

    *sigh* Want to have another try at this?
  • NotSo
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    400K LESS?!
    I'm still not doing that grind ever again.
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  • dlepi24
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    Iluvrien wrote: »
    Because, of course, this isn't going to affect anything except from xp... gear for example. You know, the nice, shiny gold gear that people have been working on, running dungeons/trials for months for. Yep, no effect there at all.

    *sigh* Want to have another try at this?

    You expected to play an MMO and use the same gear for the rest of the games life cycle? Lmao. You might as well find the door now and save your time and money.
  • lathbury
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    wow we have to refarm some gear bearing in mind there is probably better stuff coming with the content anyway its not a massive deal and v14 stuff will do till then
  • Moonshadow66
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    @Kronosphere How could a Veteran possibly be a "noob"?
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  • PBpsy
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    lathbury wrote: »
    wow we have to refarm some gear bearing in mind there is probably better stuff coming with the content anyway its not a massive deal and v14 stuff will do till then

    I am pretty sure that wow game has stuff like new content from content from time to time.
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  • Elijah_Crow
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    Veteran Noob - One who has been a noob and fought many noob wars.
  • tordr86b16_ESO
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    PBpsy wrote: »
    lathbury wrote: »
    wow we have to refarm some gear bearing in mind there is probably better stuff coming with the content anyway its not a massive deal and v14 stuff will do till then

    I am pretty sure that wow game has stuff like new content from content from time to time.

    They don't increase the freaking level cap every few or so months, do they? No. Do you also know that was ZOS's Initial plan until the community voiced their opinion, strongly suggesting that we did not want or need more veteran ranks?
  • DschiPeunt
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    lathbury wrote: »
    wow we have to refarm some gear bearing in mind there is probably better stuff coming with the content anyway its not a massive deal and v14 stuff will do till then

    Better stuff, eh? As good as the infallible aether and eternal yokeda sets, that nobody uses?
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  • Iluvrien
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    dlepi24 wrote: »
    Iluvrien wrote: »
    Because, of course, this isn't going to affect anything except from xp... gear for example. You know, the nice, shiny gold gear that people have been working on, running dungeons/trials for months for. Yep, no effect there at all.

    *sigh* Want to have another try at this?

    You expected to play an MMO and use the same gear for the rest of the games life cycle? Lmao. You might as well find the door now and save your time and money.

    Of course not, but posting that people should "stfu" on the basis that the xp impact may be minimal while ignoring the other effects? By an extension to an already unpopular system?

    ...definitely a case of needing to try again.
  • Lionxoft
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    Iluvrien wrote: »
    dlepi24 wrote: »
    Iluvrien wrote: »
    Because, of course, this isn't going to affect anything except from xp... gear for example. You know, the nice, shiny gold gear that people have been working on, running dungeons/trials for months for. Yep, no effect there at all.

    *sigh* Want to have another try at this?

    You expected to play an MMO and use the same gear for the rest of the games life cycle? Lmao. You might as well find the door now and save your time and money.

    Of course not, but posting that people should "stfu" on the basis that the xp impact may be minimal while ignoring the other effects? By an extension to an already unpopular system?

    ...definitely a case of needing to try again.

    I get what you're saying. How many times are they going to raise max level in a year and some change though? This is the third time. I think what ticks me off the most is there's no reason to raise max level. They said it was to accommodate the addition of Craglorn but my vr7 nightblade could solo pretty much everything there. :neutral: That little bit of difference between vr14 and 16 will be pretty negligible besides itemization. Even then I doubt it's worth the response from the community. I don't think that content being too hard is a factor for this game but definitely content being too easy is one.
  • Tiitus
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    400k Less?!?!.. LMFAO.. this is amazing! now i can finish the Hellish VR grind 2 hours sooner... oh wait they are adding 2 more levels seems it evens out and nothing has changed..
    Edited by Tiitus on July 3, 2015 3:17AM
  • Kronosphere
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    NotSo wrote: »
    400K LESS?!
    I'm still not doing that grind ever again.
    No
    Thank
    You

    ummm yeah.. and this changes nothing? you dont have to? they arent reseting your character to v1.... *rolls eyes* drama queen much?
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  • BrassRazoo
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    What a lazy bunch those complaining are.
    Did you really expect to reach the "top" and for things to never change?
  • GreySix
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    Yeah ...


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  • NotSo
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    I'm talking about replayability. If I'm not willing to push a second character to max, replayability sucks.
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  • Tiitus
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    BrassRazoo wrote: »
    What a lazy bunch those complaining are.
    Did you really expect to reach the "top" and for things to never change?

    No but most were keeping an eye on the VR removal update to return to ESO so we could actually enjoy endgame.. instead we are greeted with 2 more vets lvls and are now much much further behind.. Alas i finally give up, cant speak for others, love ES for its lore and setting but apperently not the place for my mmo cravings.
    400kless exp to reach max lvl wen the max lvl require 13.6 mil exp to "grind" and i mean literally grind is like a rain drop in an ocean, it hardly makes a dent... before you nerdrage and say "i did it in less than *insert random number* im pretty sure it was before they nerfed every viable exp spot.
    Edited by Tiitus on July 3, 2015 3:28AM
  • lathbury
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    Tiitus wrote: »
    BrassRazoo wrote: »
    What a lazy bunch those complaining are.
    Did you really expect to reach the "top" and for things to never change?

    No but most were keeping an eye on the VR removal update to return to ESO so we could actually enjoy endgame.. instead we are greeted with 2 more vets lvls and are now much much further behind.. Alas i finally give up, cant speak for others, love ES for its lore and setting but apperently not the place for my mmo cravings.
    400kless exp to reach max lvl wen the max lvl require 13.6 mil exp to "grind" and i mean literally grind is like a rain drop in an ocean, it hardly makes a dent... before you nerdrage and say "i did it in less than *insert random number* im pretty sure it was before they nerfed every viable exp spot.

    nope just quested through silver and gold solo hit everything bar the public dungeons (yay 100% boost on those glad i saved em)
  • Elijah_Crow
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    I still have 3 1/2 zones of gold and half of Craglorn. Been saving the quest content for when I'm playing solo but been too busy PvPing for the last month or so to get to it. Have a feeling I could be VR 16 and still not finish gold.
  • lathbury
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    I still have 3 1/2 zones of gold and half of Craglorn. Been saving the quest content for when I'm playing solo but been too busy PvPing for the last month or so to get to it. Have a feeling I could be VR 16 and still not finish gold.

    its ppl grinding mobs that are complaining no wonder it feels like it takes forever its got to be the singular most boring activity i could imagine doing in game.
  • brassmaster12
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    You do know they also said you will get 50% more XP from Veteran quests, 20% More XP from Craglorn and x2 XP from Public dungeons, wish people wouldn't complain about VR ranks that much, there not that bad.
  • Iselin
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    If you're going to do the math, do it right: V1-V14 is 13 VR levels not 14 = 13,000,000 not 14,000,000

    And with the new 850K per level, 15 levels makes it 12,750,000 or 250K less.
  • sadownik
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    You do know they also said you will get 50% more XP from Veteran quests, 20% More XP from Craglorn and x2 XP from Public dungeons, wish people wouldn't complain about VR ranks that much, there not that bad.

    Define "not that bad"? As bad as AIDS? No. But its still very lazy way to prolong playability and if Z. wants to add new ranks every few months then it will become more like any mmo out there, just with less character customization.
  • J2JMC
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    You do know they also said you will get 50% more XP from Veteran quests, 20% More XP from Craglorn and x2 XP from Public dungeons, wish people wouldn't complain about VR ranks that much, there not that bad.

    If you read a lot of these threads you can tell who watched the live event and who didn't. My favorite line is the one where apparently zos are increasing the levels but not releasing any new content. July 13th folks.
    Edited by J2JMC on July 3, 2015 4:19AM
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  • AngryNord
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    @Kronosphere How could a Veteran possibly be a "noob"?

    Several of my guilds have n00bs in the v10-v14 level range.
  • AngryNord
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    sadownik wrote: »
    You do know they also said you will get 50% more XP from Veteran quests, 20% More XP from Craglorn and x2 XP from Public dungeons, wish people wouldn't complain about VR ranks that much, there not that bad.

    Define "not that bad"? As bad as AIDS? No. But its still very lazy way to prolong playability and if Z. wants to add new ranks every few months then it will become more like any mmo out there, just with less character customization.

    It'll be more than a year between the increase from v12-v14, and the increase from v14-v16
  • Teiji
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    @Kronosphere How could a Veteran possibly be a "noob"?

    @Moonshadow66 could you be any more insensitive? You're ruining our immersion, making us not feel safe and lowering our confidence.
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  • OzJohnD
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    offensive post ... glad it was moderated

    you assert that only "noobs" are complaining ... the arrogance is astounding
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  • Rev Rielle
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    simple math.
    they are reducing each vet level to require 850k exp instead of 1 million but adding 2 more ranks.
    do the bloody math. used to be 14 million to get to v14. NOW with the new numbers, it will take (16 x 850k) 13.6million! oooh well would u look at that its 400kLESS to get to max now

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  • sadownik
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    AngryNord wrote: »
    sadownik wrote: »
    You do know they also said you will get 50% more XP from Veteran quests, 20% More XP from Craglorn and x2 XP from Public dungeons, wish people wouldn't complain about VR ranks that much, there not that bad.

    Define "not that bad"? As bad as AIDS? No. But its still very lazy way to prolong playability and if Z. wants to add new ranks every few months then it will become more like any mmo out there, just with less character customization.

    It'll be more than a year between the increase from v12-v14, and the increase from v14-v16

    Right. But does it make this system any better? Why having 2 overlapsing systems?
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