and i'm over here like 15g? do i have enough time to take a quick shower? probably not

nine9six wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Yes seriously. My neighbor can afford the unlimited plan.

I'm not understanding how this is anyone's problem but your own. Or those in same situations as yourself. Not intentionally trying to sound like an ass here.

I like racing, but can't afford a NASCAR...so I race in a lower division. If you like PC gaming, but don't have access to high data caps and / or high bandwidth...then maybe MMOs should be off the menu for you until the time when that is no longer an issue.

It'd be one thing if I knew nothing about which I'm speaking, but you can't *** a bullshitter. I'd be willing to wager there are ways you can lower your current data usage. And if you're not willing to do that...throw an ESO install onto a laptop (or your neighbors machine, since I'm sure he's aware your utilizing his network already) and on Monday's have your neighbor launch / patch the game....or better yet...RDP into the machine yourself and do it.

Then when you get home...you can dump the install directory to your gaming rig and call it a day.

There are ways around this "issue"...espically if you can leech from someone.

Also, comparing ESOs patches to games that have been out for a good while and had more time to refine themselves isn't "fair". And I've sat through PLENTY of heavy LoTRO patches.


"I see where you're coming from", but I don't see how it's ESOs "problem". Their target audience, whom I guess you're not apart of (?), doesn't have this issue. All I see is a classic example of "this isn't fair!"... C'est la vie!

No just maybe THIS mmo should be off my radar. Other MMOs have small incremental patches and large patches like this only when there is a huge new update. ESO sucking all my bandwidth for minor patches is hardly my fault. It is THEIR fault. So you making excuses for them and white knighting it by claiming since i live in a rural area Im not allowed to play MMOs is just so ridiculous I almost didnt even bother commenting on it.

I just want to be clear @ZOS_GinaBruno is ZOS official position that you dont want people like me playing this game as this person says? Thats the only reason I even bothered to respond. If people who dont have unlimited internet arent your "target audience" I would like official word on that so I and the 1000s of people like me can take our money elsewhere.

I don't have unlimited internet (in that I'm sure if I started sucking-down 300+ GB of data a month my ISP would probably give me a call, there's always something in the fine print).

I also live in rural America. Very rural America.

I budget my bandwidth / data so I don't run into problems. I also make local back-ups of all of my Steam / Origin / etc. games so I don't have to keep re-downloading full games when I get froggy and want to play something.

Point is, I take steps to make sure I can enjoy the hobbies I have...with the means I have to enjoy them. You seem reluctant to do that.



It's also common knowledge that they "slip-in" Crown Store items into patches.



I'm assuming "getting off your wallet" and upgrading to Unlimited Data is off the table? And assuming by your tone you refuse to do anything else to help yourself, with either the suggestions I made or using some ingenuity of your own?



One time I was visiting family at a location that had no internet. I had the idea to use my phone. You know, "Unlimited Data", and all. Remember when ESO patched the Audio that one time, but the patch messed-up and you had to download it TWICE? I do. That's when I found out about the whole "AT&T Throttles your speed after 5GB" BS for "Unlimited Users". The patch came-in around the 12GB mark, after you'd downloaded it twice.

So I got off my wallet and jumped into the 15 GB / Month plan. Wasn't about to spend the next month downloading the game at super-slow speeds. I then spent the next 29 days playing ESO.

Do you see where I'm going with this AT ALL?

I guess I'll start a blog with my adventures in Tamriel. You can read how the game is there, since you won't be playing it any more?

@SirAndy got thrown under that bus.

I don't know, nor will I pretend to know, EU Consumer Laws.

Sincerely,

- ESO Plus Subscribber

Regardless of the legalities of patching etc they need to figure out a way to make the incremental patches smaller.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Regardless of the legalities of patching etc they need to figure out a way to make the incremental patches smaller.

In time, I'm sure they will.

Well to be fair to ZOS the whole b2p switch I assume wasnt planned at quake con and everything got put on the back burner to deal with that.

Console Release was their focus. That's done. Now (I'm guessing) they're going to focus on make sure those platforms are stable and mostly bug-free...then their focus (should) shift to Content and maybe, if your lucky, decreasing the size of the patches.

My $0.02...which I'll throw towards your ISP Upgrade

whyB wrote: »

Install a $9.99 modem into your computer. Get an AOL diskette. Install AOL. Change the BIOS clock after installing AOL. Reboot. Download patches while you're away / busy. You'll be playing eventually. OR as many others have stated, upgrade your mobile plan. OR while your neighbor is out of town, break in, run a patch cable from their router / switch, cut a whole through your exterior (any maybe a few interior) walls, and abracadabra, you have wired speeds.

My neighbor is about 1/2 mile away. I dont have a regular land line I use cell phones only. My neighbor does let me use his wifi tho. I have a 24db antenna I use when camping it has like a 3 mile range. Latency isnt horrible but usually upwards of 100-150.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

whyB wrote: »

Install a $9.99 modem into your computer. Get an AOL diskette. Install AOL. Change the BIOS clock after installing AOL. Reboot. Download patches while you're away / busy. You'll be playing eventually. OR as many others have stated, upgrade your mobile plan. OR while your neighbor is out of town, break in, run a patch cable from their router / switch, cut a whole through your exterior (any maybe a few interior) walls, and abracadabra, you have wired speeds.

My neighbor is about 1/2 mile away. I dont have a regular land line I use cell phones only. My neighbor does let me use his wifi tho. I have a 24db antenna I use when camping it has like a 3 mile range. Latency isnt horrible but usually upwards of 100-150.

Well good luck to you then. I don't know what I would do without FIOS.

Wow, that sucks for you guys.

What is raiding like with a connection that takes all night to DL 5gb?

nine9six wrote: »

- ESO Plus Subscribber

Well, that summarize a lot: how I hate those company c*** suckers....

From Coca cola to Apple, there are so many people who insist on defending corporate interests intead of consumer´s interests - which are their own.

In this case, every other monday this guy might want to play ESO, but he can´t. And I hear him saying: "I know in my heart, ZOS is f****ing me for a good reason". And then hit on the people who don´t want to be f***.

nine9six: you are a poor slave.

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

Consumer Laws in the EU protect the consumer from 1) not getting what they expected to get and b) getting something they did not agree to purchase.

Not exactly.

They grant three explicit rights.
- fair treatment;
- products which meet acceptable standards;
- a right of redress if something goes wrong.


Transparency is not part of the law. ZeniMax only has an obligation to protect your personal data.
Moreover, you don't own the game. You have "a non-exclusive, revocable, nontransferable license to use Services" which means by agreeing to the Terms of Service, you are leasing the parts of the game files you've chosen to access. ZeniMax owns all of it. You're just an authorized visitor on their digital property.

But does that mean they have to list *everything* that's in the game / patch? Would that mean that there's a manifest you review with EVERY asset in the game, before installing it?

I'm assuming ZOS legal team has all of their bases covered.