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Group Finder is a disgrace.
BrassRazoo
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I know this has been said many times before but I just need to vent my total disgust at the state of the group finder.
ZoS should be absolutely ashamed of the disgraceful state this totally dysfunctional tool is currently at.
It does not work period. Notes on increasing the gap to five levels for the matching will not make it any better.
Many people have different pet hates that fester until they just leave, I won't mention them all, but after 12 months or more this may just become mine.
Group finder in this game will forever be something I mention in passing when I compare it with others, I can foresee myself saying "remember how bad ESO's Group finder was?"
Edited by BrassRazoo on June 26, 2015 11:30AM ZoS should be absolutely ashamed of the disgraceful state this totally dysfunctional tool is currently at.
It does not work period. Notes on increasing the gap to five levels for the matching will not make it any better.
Many people have different pet hates that fester until they just leave, I won't mention them all, but after 12 months or more this may just become mine.
Group finder in this game will forever be something I mention in passing when I compare it with others, I can foresee myself saying "remember how bad ESO's Group finder was?"
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wafcatb14_ESO✭✭✭yep whoever designed the group finder must have designed the guild stores too.
its been over a year and still no improvements to either.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Bashing & Slanderous Comments]
Edited by ZOS_Ann on June 26, 2015 1:06PM5 -
bertenburnyb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭'dont fear loyal cash-co... euh, Heroes, its being investigated at this very moment and we'll have an update for you SoonTM (maybe next year), in the mean time, here's another Crow Store senshe mount'
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reften✭✭✭✭✭I've been playing since 5 day early release...and have tried the tool probably 6 times...and each time shook my head and turned it off then moved on.
Best bet is to get in a guild, run with members nearly exclusively, and just work with them all the time, old school like EverquestReften
Bosmer (Wood Elf)
Moonlight Crew (RIP), Misfitz (RIP), Victorem Guild
VR16 NB, Stam build, Max all crafts.
Azuras & Trueflame. Mostly PvP, No alts.
Semi-retired till the lag is fixed.
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spawn10459✭✭✭spawn10459 wrote: »Guys this is nothing new. This has been discussed for a year now.
EDIT: i brought this up in closed beta and was told to go back to WOW.0 -
sadownik✭✭✭✭✭
✭spawn10459 wrote: »spawn10459 wrote: »Guys this is nothing new. This has been discussed for a year now.
EDIT: i brought this up in closed beta and was told to go back to WOW.
yeah whats that up with? Some complex? I see i all over ESO forums.
And btw lfg tool works... sometimes, but under 1 condition - enough people are queued. Granted i noticed on PC (and i bet my old arse that its the same on consoles) that lfg search gets bugged. You see that it is searching but you cant turon off the search. I have to relog to get it off. Is it still working in that state? Doubt it.0 -
WoodyM8teSoul ShrivenI agree
If you want to que for any dungeon you often can get into a group with three people with goes no where fast, alternatively you can queue for a particular dungeon which I would like to do in order to get through the quests involved but never get any groups unless searching for any dungeon. I wish there was some form of text chat to drop looking for group "insert dungeon name here" would hurry things along.PS4 EU Server Ebonheart Pact for lyf0 -
daemonios✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭When it works, it's still broken. The other day it was taking so long to find a group in zone chat take I actually went to the LFG tool. I specified the vet dungeon and that I was looking for a dd and a tank. After a while a buddy came on and I invited him. He was a dd, so all we needed was a tank, right? Wrong, a couple minutes later the LFG tool sticks a third dd in the group, and no tank.0 -
spawn10459✭✭✭This game needs a lot of improvements. Sadly these improvements have been put on the back burner due to the PS4 and Xbox one release.1
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✭When it works, it's still broken. The other day it was taking so long to find a group in zone chat take I actually went to the LFG tool. I specified the vet dungeon and that I was looking for a dd and a tank. After a while a buddy came on and I invited him. He was a dd, so all we needed was a tank, right? Wrong, a couple minutes later the LFG tool sticks a third dd in the group, and no tank.
Or the few times it decides to work, the queued players are too stupid to notice and never show up to the dungeon.1 -
Sausage✭✭✭✭✭
✭F2P needed for PS4. There isnt players, two non-vet campaig is disgrace. People gotta remember this is only for Xbox1 and PS4, not all console players use it yet and also was on PC 1.5 year before consoles, so lots of players played it there. PS is F2P platform anyway, lots of F2P games there, I think Zen should start to work on it ASAP.Edited by Sausage on June 26, 2015 2:06PM0 -
Yinmaigao✭✭✭✭✭
✭F2P needed for PS4. There isnt players, two non-vet campaig is disgrace. People gotta remember this is only for Xbox1 and PS4, not all console players use it yet and also was on PC 1.5 year before consoles, so lots of players played it there. PS is F2P platform anyway, lots of F2P games there, I think Zen should start to work on it ASAP.
I don't ZoS is going to completely change their marketing strategy for one platform, rather, we will just have clones on three systems that don't communicate with each other and don't seem to really suit any.
Good game, just designed to be implemented across different mediums, and doesn't feel "home" on any.0 -
Kupoking✭✭✭✭✭Ive said it many times and people were insulted by my answer regarding uselessness of grp finders.
But here it is again.
-go out and make some friends! Mmos are social games and not ment for people who ask a computer to randomly select grp members.
-join a guild and actually TALK to them.
-you have a friend list. Use it. Try grping with same people. Develop coordination with them. Dungeons are hard and you will not get through all of them if you are an unsocial sociopath.
-if all else fails, use zone chat. If they are good, friend them. If they plain suck, get someone else.0 -
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✭✭✭It's kind of sad that standing outside of the dungeon with your party lined up is the best way to get other players.
I like to Nord Dance, faint and play dead. Amuses randoms enough to group up.
LOL : )Edited by Tan9oSuccka on June 26, 2015 2:17PM1 -
eventide03b14a_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭wafcatb14_ESO wrote: »yep whoever designed the group finder must have designed the guild stores too.
its been over a year and still no improvements to either.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Bashing & Slanderous Comments]
Clearly someone is watching the threads closely enough to redact what we are saying. Would be nice for them to actually address our concerns though.:trollin:2 -
Sausage✭✭✭✭✭
✭F2P needed for PS4. There isnt players, two non-vet campaig is disgrace. People gotta remember this is only for Xbox1 and PS4, not all console players use it yet and also was on PC 1.5 year before consoles, so lots of players played it there. PS is F2P platform anyway, lots of F2P games there, I think Zen should start to work on it ASAP.
I don't ZoS is going to completely change their marketing strategy for one platform, rather, we will just have clones on three systems that don't communicate with each other and don't seem to really suit any.
Good game, just designed to be implemented across different mediums, and doesn't feel "home" on any.
Its Sony's game now. Isn this reason why we cant get console to PC and vice versa transfer, because Zen has nothing to say to it.0 -
daemonios✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭houimetub17_ESO wrote: »Ive said it many times and people were insulted by my answer regarding uselessness of grp finders.
But here it is again.
-go out and make some friends! Mmos are social games and not ment for people who ask a computer to randomly select grp members.
-join a guild and actually TALK to them.
-you have a friend list. Use it. Try grping with same people. Develop coordination with them. Dungeons are hard and you will not get through all of them if you are an unsocial sociopath.
-if all else fails, use zone chat. If they are good, friend them. If they plain suck, get someone else.
While I am in several guilds and will use Teamspeak if anyone else wants to, your answer comes across as kind of privileged.
It does not cater to more casual players who don't play with anywhere near enough regularity to make friends in-game. You might say they shouldn't do group content then, but I'd disagree.
It also does not cater to players who are trying to do content that is not much sought-after, such as normal dungeons while leveling a toon. You might get some guildies to help out, but they'd have to be REALLY friendly to do that very often.
Finally, it does not cater to players who play during less busy hours, when fewer guildies and other players are online. A LFG tool allows players to go about their business while searching for others interested in some content, rather than forcing them to park in their faction's second area and spamming zone chat in the hopes of finding like-minded players with similar schedules.1 -
mtwiggz✭✭✭✭✭bertenburnyb16_ESO wrote: »'dont fear loyal cash-co... euh, Heroes, its being investigated at this very moment and we'll have an update for you SoonTM (maybe next year), in the mean time, here's another Crow Store senshe mount'
Another Senche mount!? I'll forget all of the terrible game breaking bugs for that bear mount! Yeah, more mounts! Totally not wasted development time!2 -
Kupoking✭✭✭✭✭houimetub17_ESO wrote: »Ive said it many times and people were insulted by my answer regarding uselessness of grp finders.
But here it is again.
-go out and make some friends! Mmos are social games and not ment for people who ask a computer to randomly select grp members.
-join a guild and actually TALK to them.
-you have a friend list. Use it. Try grping with same people. Develop coordination with them. Dungeons are hard and you will not get through all of them if you are an unsocial sociopath.
-if all else fails, use zone chat. If they are good, friend them. If they plain suck, get someone else.
While I am in several guilds and will use Teamspeak if anyone else wants to, your answer comes across as kind of privileged.
It does not cater to more casual players who don't play with anywhere near enough regularity to make friends in-game. You might say they shouldn't do group content then, but I'd disagree.
It also does not cater to players who are trying to do content that is not much sought-after, such as normal dungeons while leveling a toon. You might get some guildies to help out, but they'd have to be REALLY friendly to do that very often.
Finally, it does not cater to players who play during less busy hours, when fewer guildies and other players are online. A LFG tool allows players to go about their business while searching for others interested in some content, rather than forcing them to park in their faction's second area and spamming zone chat in the hopes of finding like-minded players with similar schedules.
Believe me. I am hyper casual right now and still manage to get my pledges done.
Having social capacity in this game has nothing to do with being casual or not. Its a pretty weak excuse as to why you cant find anybody to group with.
In all games which auto grp finder were made available, it broke a part of the social aspect of the game because:
Here you go grped with 3 strangers. The grp wipes in the first minute, 1 - 2 players leave and get back in queue for another group. Grouping becomes similar to fast food: you get it fast but its filled with crap. Ppl dont have to be nice to each other. They are merely numbers in a queue. Hell look at how moba works in terms of match making and tell me im wrong.
Nah grp finder in overall bad imo. Especially in a multi player games which social aspects matters like eso. The day you will force it to youself to go talk to ppl and make friends, you gaming experience will become so much more pleasant.
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sadownik✭✭✭✭✭
✭houimetub17_ESO wrote: »houimetub17_ESO wrote: »Ive said it many times and people were insulted by my answer regarding uselessness of grp finders.
But here it is again.
-go out and make some friends! Mmos are social games and not ment for people who ask a computer to randomly select grp members.
-join a guild and actually TALK to them.
-you have a friend list. Use it. Try grping with same people. Develop coordination with them. Dungeons are hard and you will not get through all of them if you are an unsocial sociopath.
-if all else fails, use zone chat. If they are good, friend them. If they plain suck, get someone else.
While I am in several guilds and will use Teamspeak if anyone else wants to, your answer comes across as kind of privileged.
It does not cater to more casual players who don't play with anywhere near enough regularity to make friends in-game. You might say they shouldn't do group content then, but I'd disagree.
It also does not cater to players who are trying to do content that is not much sought-after, such as normal dungeons while leveling a toon. You might get some guildies to help out, but they'd have to be REALLY friendly to do that very often.
Finally, it does not cater to players who play during less busy hours, when fewer guildies and other players are online. A LFG tool allows players to go about their business while searching for others interested in some content, rather than forcing them to park in their faction's second area and spamming zone chat in the hopes of finding like-minded players with similar schedules.
Believe me. I am hyper casual right now and still manage to get my pledges done.
Having social capacity in this game has nothing to do with being casual or not. Its a pretty weak excuse as to why you cant find anybody to group with.
In all games which auto grp finder were made available, it broke a part of the social aspect of the game because:
Here you go grped with 3 strangers. The grp wipes in the first minute, 1 - 2 players leave and get back in queue for another group. Grouping becomes similar to fast food: you get it fast but its filled with crap. Ppl dont have to be nice to each other. They are merely numbers in a queue. Hell look at how moba works in terms of match making and tell me im wrong.
Nah grp finder in overall bad imo. Especially in a multi player games which social aspects matters like eso. The day you will force it to youself to go talk to ppl and make friends, you gaming experience will become so much more pleasant.
Might i ask you how many vr 14 do yuo have?0 -
Kupoking✭✭✭✭✭Oh and i wont say you shpuld not do grp content if you cant live without the grp finder. But you will never be able to do harder content loke vet coa or dsa-vdsa.0
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A5ko✭✭✭I think the Group Finder for Xbox EU has improved massively these past two evenings.A5ko ▪ High Elf ▪ Sorcerer ▪ Aldmeri Dominion ▪ XBOX One ▪ EU Megaserver0 -
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✭✭houimetub17_ESO wrote: »Nah grp finder in overall bad imo. Especially in a multi player games which social aspects matters like eso. The day you will force it to youself to go talk to ppl and make friends, you gaming experience will become so much more pleasant.
I used to think that, too.
Learned my lesson tho on "friends" in a game.Lag is ruinin' my 'mershun!
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Kupoking✭✭✭✭✭I have 2. But note that I have been playing this game since pre launch and did my 2nd character back when craglorn was un nerfed with exp, which means that for someone who would ask for groups in craglorn zone could do v1-v14 in less than 20 hrs. Rest of my leveling I Did on rings of mara (played with my father who is even more casual than me. Plays about 5 hrs a week and he has 2 vet 14 too).
And see, I did all of this and was able to run dungeons while I leveled (back when dungeons did not scale to lvl) primarily because I was able to meet people and play with them. First times I formed grps in zone. Friended some people I liked. Found 3-4 guys who was going at the same pase and has same schedule. My first v10 i had back at launch I leveled him from v3 to v10 doing only wayrest sewers because it was the fastest way. And I had a blast doing so. Made me a better tank, gave me contacts, made a reputation of myself so that when craglorn and trials came out I had a bunch of friends to try em out with.
Oh and forget to mention that I was working on evening shifts during 6 month last year when leveling my 1st character so out of primetime.
See I just summarized my leveling experience that I did with buddies that I found and was able to follow around. Was a pain first, but managed it. Now I have zero pve guild. I manage to run vet dsa every 2 weeks, run 1 raid every week by being invited from people on my friend list. I actually loved my experience and pkaying with other people had a huge impact on it.0 -
Kupoking✭✭✭✭✭houimetub17_ESO wrote: »Nah grp finder in overall bad imo. Especially in a multi player games which social aspects matters like eso. The day you will force it to youself to go talk to ppl and make friends, you gaming experience will become so much more pleasant.
I used to think that, too.
Learned my lesson tho on "friends" in a game.
Hey but dont forget your pvp buddies. Were always gonna be there for you
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sadownik✭✭✭✭✭
✭houimetub17_ESO wrote: »I have 2. But note that I have been playing this game since pre launch and did my 2nd character back when craglorn was un nerfed with exp, which means that for someone who would ask for groups in craglorn zone could do v1-v14 in less than 20 hrs. Rest of my leveling I Did on rings of mara (played with my father who is even more casual than me. Plays about 5 hrs a week and he has 2 vet 14 too).
And see, I did all of this and was able to run dungeons while I leveled (back when dungeons did not scale to lvl) primarily because I was able to meet people and play with them. First times I formed grps in zone. Friended some people I liked. Found 3-4 guys who was going at the same pase and has same schedule. My first v10 i had back at launch I leveled him from v3 to v10 doing only wayrest sewers because it was the fastest way. And I had a blast doing so. Made me a better tank, gave me contacts, made a reputation of myself so that when craglorn and trials came out I had a bunch of friends to try em out with.
Oh and forget to mention that I was working on evening shifts during 6 month last year when leveling my 1st character so out of primetime.
See I just summarized my leveling experience that I did with buddies that I found and was able to follow around. Was a pain first, but managed it. Now I have zero pve guild. I manage to run vet dsa every 2 weeks, run 1 raid every week by being invited from people on my friend list. I actually loved my experience and pkaying with other people had a huge impact on it.
On pc eu server in my 4 guilds there are most vr 14 players. My min is only vr 7. Finding group on daily basis there is really hard. So far i managed to do that only twice. So its:
1. spam guilds chats
2. spam in capitol
3. use lfg tool
Using all 3 methodes lets me find a group eventually but takes from 10 (very very rarely) to nearly 3 h. I find sitting in capitol and spamming message on 5 channels absurd.0 -
Kupoking✭✭✭✭✭Im sorry to read that you have such hard time finding groups. My guess is that its more of a demographic problem than it is related to grp finder. Or I am doing something different than you amongst those lines that makes me have more success.
My guest is that people run much less pve grps today because its worth less than it used to. Exp in grps should be better fpr once.0 -
sadownik✭✭✭✭✭
✭houimetub17_ESO wrote: »Im sorry to read that you have such hard time finding groups. My guess is that its more of a demographic problem than it is related to grp finder. Or I am doing something different than you amongst those lines that makes me have more success.
My guest is that people run much less pve grps today because its worth less than it used to. Exp in grps should be better fpr once.
Couldnt agree more with the last paragraph0 -
Yinmaigao✭✭✭✭✭
✭houimetub17_ESO wrote: »Im sorry to read that you have such hard time finding groups. My guess is that its more of a demographic problem than it is related to grp finder. Or I am doing something different than you amongst those lines that makes me have more success.
My guest is that people run much less pve grps today because its worth less than it used to. Exp in grps should be better fpr once.
Couldnt agree more with the last paragraph
Most of my friends haven't run a pledge in about 2 months... just not worth it. Once you collect your monster sets, the xp is meh and the drops aren't worth it.
Go grind for 20 mins instead and tell me which is superior.0