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My FPS never drops below 28 in big battles with everything on ultra...Adam_Chattaway wrote: »Caesar Tantalia wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »Exaggerate much?
The graphics are not as bad as you say.
Most of us upgrade our PS4 hard drives anyway as it is so easy to do.
Not trying to exaggerate at all. Like I said, PC graphs have spoiled me. For me the difference was too big. I'm not saying that the graphs are bad (not at all) but the difference is too noticable for me (just a personal opinion).
what you think a bit of view distance is that big of a deal? please... at least the ps4 is smooth as butter in a huge castle siege, no fps drop at all.VR16 Templar
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Youtube's video compression ruins any graphical comparison.Adam_Chattaway wrote: »i cant believe tho pc gamers saying the gfx are that bad when they are 90% the same... textures are same, af is lower sure, AA seems same, view distance and water effects are the only difference really... look at proper comparison videos of the game pc vs ps4.VR16 Templar
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Youtube's video compression ruins any graphical comparison.Adam_Chattaway wrote: »i cant believe tho pc gamers saying the gfx are that bad when they are 90% the same... textures are same, af is lower sure, AA seems same, view distance and water effects are the only difference really... look at proper comparison videos of the game pc vs ps4.
then if it lowers pc it also lowers ps4...
I played the PC on ultra with my gtx 970 for a long time, i quite happily play on PS4, aside from gfx the PS4 is much more fun because of voice chat and controller support, just feels more like an ES game on PS4. all my friends think the same to, we all play it together on PS4
This is a pic i took of the lion mount
http://u.cubeupload.com/AdamChattaway/bmYpE0.jpg
This is one a PC gamer took for me to compare
http://i.imgur.com/nX4gA66.jpg
I can't tell a difference.Edited by Adam_Chattaway on June 24, 2015 4:56PM0 -
Caesar Tantalia✭✭✭Adam_Chattaway wrote: »Caesar Tantalia wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »Exaggerate much?
The graphics are not as bad as you say.
Most of us upgrade our PS4 hard drives anyway as it is so easy to do.
Not trying to exaggerate at all. Like I said, PC graphs have spoiled me. For me the difference was too big. I'm not saying that the graphs are bad (not at all) but the difference is too noticable for me (just a personal opinion).
what you think a bit of view distance is that big of a deal? please... at least the ps4 is smooth as butter in a huge castle siege, no fps drop at all.
Like I said - it's a personal preference but I seriously doubt draw distance is the only difference. For me, it's the graphical "feel" I get.
Re siege - non VR AvA was smooth as well on PC. ZOS even admitted there is a huge gap in performance between VR and non VR AvA because of the AoA abilities VR players have (and spam) so I want to see a full VR compaign on PS4 before jumping to conclusions.
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Adam_Chattaway✭✭✭✭Caesar Tantalia wrote: »Adam_Chattaway wrote: »Caesar Tantalia wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »Exaggerate much?
The graphics are not as bad as you say.
Most of us upgrade our PS4 hard drives anyway as it is so easy to do.
Not trying to exaggerate at all. Like I said, PC graphs have spoiled me. For me the difference was too big. I'm not saying that the graphs are bad (not at all) but the difference is too noticable for me (just a personal opinion).
what you think a bit of view distance is that big of a deal? please... at least the ps4 is smooth as butter in a huge castle siege, no fps drop at all.
Like I said - it's a personal preference but I seriously doubt draw distance is the only difference. For me, it's the graphical "feel" I get.
Re siege - non VR AvA was smooth as well on PC. ZOS even admitted there is a huge gap in performance between VR and non VR AvA because of the AoA abilities VR players have (and spam) so I want to see a full VR compaign on PS4 before jumping to conclusions.
Console gamers are ocntent with their gfx, many even say the games look amazing! but they play games for fun, most of the time a console gamer will not care about gfx and will play for fun, story, gameplay ect.
But most PC gamers these days only care about ULTRA GFX, 60 FPS AND 4K, it seems to me in every youtube video of these wars the PC gamers have lost sight of fun and game play and only care about gfx and fps which is a shame because it just makes all pc gamers look shallow and elitist ***.
I have a 144 HZ monitor and can play many games at over 100 fps and see it all, yet i'm also completely fine and love playing PS4 games at 30 fps, I'm not a snob.0 -
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✭Console graphics will always be sub par when compared to PC. This is the main reason I will always be a PC Gamer. I like being able to get more performance from my system by upgrading this or that. I have all my settings on Ultra and can't say how many times I stop at spots in the game and just say "that's incredible scenery".
While consoles have come along way with graphic detail, they will never catch up to PC IMO.
Oooo, aren't we a PC snob.
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Moltyr✭✭✭I hate to break it to you console folks. The performance of a console will never match that of a gaming PC. Consoles are marketed to lower income gamers, people who sometimes can't buy them out of their own pocket, i.e. kids. That is also why the majority of console games are much less dense than PC games. ESO being one of the few exceptions. Now I'm not saying that the games or graphics are completely garbage on consoles. I am just saying that even a simple PC build will have better performance, as well as the ability to upgrade along the way. Instead of having to buy a 400$ console every few years. Not to mention, a lot of PC games are starting to allow downloading of games for free with or without a subscription. Where with consoles you pay 60$ or more for each game that is about as dense as Tetris with its content. To answer your question some might ask, yes...I have owned a few consoles and currently have a PS4.1 -
Kazzy56✭✭✭Personally I think the PS4 graphics are good. As good as PC? No, but for console they are very good. I more so noticed the loss of a bit of detail. To be honest, if I had not previously (and currently) been playing the PC version at Ultra higher.. I'm sure I would have been stunned by the PS4 graphics.. because then I really wouldn't have noticed the small details that seem to be lost.
PS4 EU
I agree with MissBizz. As someone who has played all PS consoles right from the start, I have to say the graphics are excellent.
I have also played PC (though not ESO) and of course with the settings and more powerful tools at your fingertips you will always get better graphics on PC than on console. But I don't think the gap is all that huge.
Its certainly doesn't take anything away from the game for me. It still looks beautiful to me.
"If perfection existed, there would be nothing to strive for." ( my own quote)
Young at heart. Slightly older in other places.
PS4 player.
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Adam_Chattaway✭✭✭✭I hate to break it to you console folks. The performance of a console will never match that of a gaming PC. Consoles are marketed to lower income gamers, people who sometimes can't buy them out of their own pocket, i.e. kids. That is also why the majority of console games are much less dense than PC games. ESO being one of the few exceptions. Now I'm not saying that the games or graphics are completely garbage on consoles. I am just saying that even a simple PC build will have better performance, as well as the ability to upgrade along the way. Instead of having to buy a 400$ console every few years. Not to mention, a lot of PC games are starting to allow downloading of games for free with or without a subscription. Where with consoles you pay 60$ or more for each game that is about as dense as Tetris with its content. To answer your question some might ask, yes...I have owned a few consoles and currently have a PS4.
the problem is performance, a PC will always have issues, take the new batman game, runs perfect 30 fps on PS4, runs liek crap on PC's
I tried to play witcher 3 on PC with a 970 and had stuttering, hitching, frame skipping etc etc, no matter how powerfull a PC is there will always be issues that make games unplayable, waiting for patches ect.
A console game release general much better off with much better optimization, a $400 PC will have huge frame drops prob and run like crap because it wont have that optimization and care the PS4 gets.
Ill give an example, lord of the rings war int he north, had a day 1 issue that made the game run at 2 fps on my gfx card, my mate had it day 1 on PS3 and played it perfectly, took 5 months for them to patch and fix the game so i could play it, then my £40 preorder was £5 on steam.
90% of games are cross platform so size is not an issue i'll give another example, Final fantasy 14 the new expansion just came out, ITS HUGE MASSIVE AND OPENWORLD, yet the PS3 can still handle and play it with 256mb of ram... the PC version cant run on 256mb of ram, console optimization will always beat PC.
It was my BDAY 2 days ago and i got Witcher 3 for PS4 despite having it and the expansion pass on PC, and you know what its awesome, and i have more fun playing it at 30 fps on PS4 than a buggy hitching 60 fps on PC
I even made this video check it out please and see one of the many issues i have on PC with witcher 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGhkqT1tce8
this is one of the reasons, no matter how good your pc, how high your fps is or good your hardware is, these issues will now always make me play on console, because i trust consoles to fix problems more than PC's
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Kazzy56✭✭✭Console graphics will always be sub par when compared to PC. This is the main reason I will always be a PC Gamer. I like being able to get more performance from my system by upgrading this or that. I have all my settings on Ultra and can't say how many times I stop at spots in the game and just say "that's incredible scenery".
While consoles have come along way with graphic detail, they will never catch up to PC IMO.
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What makes you think us console players don't stop and look at the scenery and say the same thing?? I know I do. Please don't make assumptions.
I am a seasoned (thats polite talk for old,
) console player and TES and now ESOTU player and I am perfectly happy with the graphics on my PS4.
Its beyond me why some folks feel a need to tell me the obvious so often.
Have a great day/evening in Tamriel all.Young at heart. Slightly older in other places.
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✭✭✭✭✭Not going to quote @Adam_Chattaway but I can agree on that part. Due to the fact consoles are all identical (aside from possibly changing out hard drives) it's a lot easier to make sure games run right on them. There is no need to account for different OS's, graphics cards, graphic card drivers, if someone is OC'ing etc. etc. When I first played ESO (PC) I know a lot of people had problems with Nvidia drivers - launch issue. Now that time has passed, these issues have almost gone away.
There is definitely a lot more work involved (for both the developer and the player) for having a game running excellent on PC - although this is normally more of an issue at launch. Yes, if I want to keep up great graphics on my PC (any game, now and beyond) I'll need to update drivers, maybe update my GPU etc. but to me, I prefer the PC platform, and the graphics are better - so it's all worth it. (mostly it's preference - I prefer m/kb over a controller).Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord0 -
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✭Adam_Chattaway wrote: »I hate to break it to you console folks. The performance of a console will never match that of a gaming PC. Consoles are marketed to lower income gamers, people who sometimes can't buy them out of their own pocket, i.e. kids. That is also why the majority of console games are much less dense than PC games. ESO being one of the few exceptions. Now I'm not saying that the games or graphics are completely garbage on consoles. I am just saying that even a simple PC build will have better performance, as well as the ability to upgrade along the way. Instead of having to buy a 400$ console every few years. Not to mention, a lot of PC games are starting to allow downloading of games for free with or without a subscription. Where with consoles you pay 60$ or more for each game that is about as dense as Tetris with its content. To answer your question some might ask, yes...I have owned a few consoles and currently have a PS4.
the problem is performance, a PC will always have issues, take the new batman game, runs perfect 30 fps on PS4, runs liek crap on PC's
I tried to play witcher 3 on PC with a 970 and had stuttering, hitching, frame skipping etc etc, no matter how powerfull a PC is there will always be issues that make games unplayable, waiting for patches ect.
A console game release general much better off with much better optimization, a $400 PC will have huge frame drops prob and run like crap because it wont have that optimization and care the PS4 gets.
Ill give an example, lord of the rings war int he north, had a day 1 issue that made the game run at 2 fps on my gfx card, my mate had it day 1 on PS3 and played it perfectly, took 5 months for them to patch and fix the game so i could play it, then my £40 preorder was £5 on steam.
90% of games are cross platform so size is not an issue i'll give another example, Final fantasy 14 the new expansion just came out, ITS HUGE MASSIVE AND OPENWORLD, yet the PS3 can still handle and play it with 256mb of ram... the PC version cant run on 256mb of ram, console optimization will always beat PC.
It was my BDAY 2 days ago and i got Witcher 3 for PS4 despite having it and the expansion pass on PC, and you know what its awesome, and i have more fun playing it at 30 fps on PS4 than a buggy hitching 60 fps on PC
I even made this video check it out please and see one of the many issues i have on PC with witcher 3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGhkqT1tce8
this is one of the reasons, no matter how good your pc, how high your fps is or good your hardware is, these issues will now always make me play on console, because i trust consoles to fix problems more than PC's
So many things wrong with what you're trying to prove. Maybe you should stop playing crap games like Witcher/Batman and perhaps you won't be having so many issues...0 -
AdamBourke✭✭✭✭✭Console graphics will always be sub par when compared to PC. This is the main reason I will always be a PC Gamer. I like being able to get more performance from my system by upgrading this or that. I have all my settings on Ultra and can't say how many times I stop at spots in the game and just say "that's incredible scenery".
While consoles have come along way with graphic detail, they will never catch up to PC IMO.
I'm a console gamer. The only game I have played seriously on PC in the last 5-10 years was ESO before console launch. And I have to say... I agree with @Robbmrp. There are many advantages to console - but graphics is not one of them. That's not to say the graphics on console can't be amazing - just the PC will always be better... if you can afford it.
Try running ESO on low quality (which is what my dad had to do when he first got the pc version). Then go play the PS4 version. In comparison, you will be blown away. PS4 is about the same graphics as medium-high settings on PC, I reckon.
The only thing I would complain about is the draw distance. I love a high draw distance (like in skyrim, for example). But in ESO, even on PC-Ultra settings... there is still the grey fog of mystery not too far away. It's even closer on console.
I would post a screenshot... but my PS4 is still downloading that silly patch...PS4 - EU
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