Kuta back in the hireling mail?!

Moonshadow66 · June 2015

Funny how I got 1 Kuta today in one of my hireling mails. Haven't they been removed from hirelings in update 6? And when were they added back?
I mean, I'm not complaining at all, this was already overdue. Just asking

As I pretty much never find any in the wilds although I harvest everything I see, I'm glad they're back in the mails.

Qyrk · June 2015

It was never removed. Just that it had a very very low drop rate.

Moonshadow66 · June 2015

Oh ok, then I misunderstood something.
But.. THIS is the "normal" drop rate now? I mean, once every 3 months or less are not enough at all... It's also about the same rate of what I find in the wilds.
Not enough.

wraith808 · June 2015

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

Oh ok, then I misunderstood something.
But.. THIS is the "normal" drop rate now? I mean, once every 3 months or less are not enough at all... It's also about the same rate of what I find in the wilds.
Not enough.

So you have to do writs. That's the new way of getting things... to do something rather than wait for hirelings.

Moonshadow66 · June 2015

wraith808 wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

Oh ok, then I misunderstood something.
But.. THIS is the "normal" drop rate now? I mean, once every 3 months or less are not enough at all... It's also about the same rate of what I find in the wilds.
Not enough.

So you have to do writs. That's the new way of getting things... to do something rather than wait for hirelings.

What I'm actually doing are quests and such and harvest materials on the way. And have hirelings activated with a few characters. Shouldn't this be enough? I hate writs. At least there should be the same chances to get a Kuta every now and then like when doing writs.

But anyways, thanks for your reply, also to @Qyrk

Qyrk · June 2015

No worries. Unfortunately gold tempers are nerf hard on hirelings. With a low drop rate, you really have to battle the range Gods. Writs do a lot better on dropping gold tempers. The enchanter writs are easy enough though.

Psychobunni · June 2015

I did writs for a week and got none, and have gotten 1 in the mail since that update

Would have been better to leave the drop rate alone, and instead allow 1 hireling of any type per character.....and let those that had 8 enchanter hirelings farm writs/nodes all day (imo)

Why crush everyone because a few gamed the system

Qyrk · June 2015

Very unfortunate for you Psychonunni, I received 3 Kutas in daily writs within a week from one character. Again, range gods can be pain.

nimander99 · June 2015

I just got my first Kuta in the mail today in a couple months actually. Coincidence? Or Illuminati? You decide *X-Files music plays in the background*

wraith808 · June 2015

Qyrk wrote: »

Very unfortunate for you Psychonunni, I received 3 Kutas in daily writs within a week from one character. Again, range gods can be pain.

And I think that's the big problem... making your rewards (again) based on their sucky RNG.

For writs, you should get tokens of some sort. Those could be used to buy what you want from a vendor. That way you have two different systems in play... if you use your game time specifically for the purpose of bettering your crafting, i.e. writs, you get more control over what you get.

If you delegate to others, i.e. hirelings, you're at the mercy of the RNG.

At least, that's how I would have done it.

By making all things subject to their RNG (which does suck IMO in all applications), you make the problem with their streaky RNG endemic across all systems equally, even if certain applications are more labor intensive than others.

If you invest actual disposable resources into something over time, then shouldn't the reward be more predetermined to go along with that investment? I know people will say that they invested skill points into the hirelings, but I think it's been aptly proven that skill points aren't exactly rare, especially once you get to endgame.

AlnilamE · June 2015

I have one character who does Enchanting writs and she gets a couple of Kuta a week (and I will never run out of soul gems again).

Meanwhile, 7 characters doing provisioning writs since last Tuesday and not one Fragment...

Win some, lose some, I guess... :-P

tengri · June 2015

Enchanting writs are an acceptable source for... well.. kuta. One does not need them in such huge numbers - and only one per piece of equipment.
However... for blacksmithing, clothing and woodworking even with writs the new gold rate is ridiculously low.

Psychobunni · June 2015

tengri wrote: »

Enchanting writs are an acceptable source for... well.. kuta. One does not need them in such huge numbers - and only one per piece of equipment.
However... for blacksmithing, clothing and woodworking even with writs the new gold rate is ridiculously low.

If you are getting them, then yes it seems "acceptable"...that is the problem with the stupid RNG. If you are lucky, it seems great. If the generator seems to not realize you play the game...then you are SOL. My provisioner hasn't got a fragment since that release either, I did get purple supplies 1 time since.

I wonder if certain players are coded to intentionally have the worst RNG imaginable to keep the fake economy afloat?

Because *my* RNG has been horrible the whole time, no matter whether it be writs, nodes, decon, vet keys.....

Nestor · June 2015

I think I have gotten one Kuta from a hireling since 1.6. I only get them from Enchanting Writ Containers. I think I even got one from a Survey once. But that was a node near the survey location, not one of the Survey Nodes.

FriedEggSandwich · June 2015

I have 2 characters, both with max hirelings in blacksmithing, clothing, woodworking, alchemy, enchanting and provisioning. For some reason I regularly seem to get tempering alloy, this is not an issue for me cos I sell them immediately for 7k, but it seems pretty strange how I never get any dreugh wax, and I had one rosin last week, just tempering alloy all the damn time lol.

Edit: Tempering alloy also seems to drop more than dreugh wax or rosin when refining raw materials.

UrQuan · June 2015

I've received 2-4 Kutas from hirelings since 1.6 dropped, and probably 10-15 from writs (either directly as writ rewards, or indirectly from a survey that was a writ reward). I don't do writs every day, though...

wraith808 · June 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

I've received 2-4 Kutas from hirelings since 1.6 dropped, and probably 10-15 from writs (either directly as writ rewards, or indirectly from a survey that was a writ reward). I don't do writs every day, though...

Inversely, I've gotten 1 since writs started, and up until last week, I was doing writs almost daily. Sucky RNG sucks.