I loooove the smell of schadenfreude in the morning.
So, the same community who allegedly "begged" ZOS to make the game F2P (or B2P, if you care about the distinction) is now begging for free content. Priceless.
P.S. If it were up to me, the game would still be subscription only and all content would be free.
MornaBaine wrote: »While I expect Imperial City and Orsinium/Wrothgar to be DLC for which they expect payment, if that is indeed going to be the case it leaves a pretty bad taste in my mouth since these were promised additions LONG before the game went B2P.
They also promised that we would continue to have to pay $15/month to play the game back then too. You want them to keep that promise too?
So if you want the original terms, then just subscribe. You'll get all the DLC for free, as originally promised. And you'll also pay them your monthly sub, as originally promised.
I loooove the smell of schadenfreude in the morning.
So, the same community who allegedly "begged" ZOS to make the game F2P (or B2P, if you care about the distinction) is now begging for free content. Priceless.
P.S. If it were up to me, the game would still be subscription only and all content would be free.
Merlin13KAGL wrote: »Technically, we funded it long in advance.
NadiusMaximus wrote: »Merlin13KAGL wrote: »Technically, we funded it long in advance.
Stuff that was said to be finished and would be released before B2p went live should be free to anyone that was paying the sub back then.
What the *** did we get for a years subscription? Craglorn? Beta console testing? Stuff is still broke, stuff is still bugged, still nothing new.
Sallington wrote: »NadiusMaximus wrote: »Merlin13KAGL wrote: »Technically, we funded it long in advance.
Stuff that was said to be finished and would be released before B2p went live should be free to anyone that was paying the sub back then.
What the *** did we get for a years subscription? Craglorn? Beta console testing? Stuff is still broke, stuff is still bugged, still nothing new.
This is how I feel as well. We basically paid $15 a month to fund the console launch and keep the servers on. That's it.
I won't even say we kept the servers functional (Cyrodil performance). We literally just kept them on.
Sallington wrote: »NadiusMaximus wrote: »Merlin13KAGL wrote: »Technically, we funded it long in advance.
Stuff that was said to be finished and would be released before B2p went live should be free to anyone that was paying the sub back then.
What the *** did we get for a years subscription? Craglorn? Beta console testing? Stuff is still broke, stuff is still bugged, still nothing new.
This is how I feel as well. We basically paid $15 a month to fund the console launch and keep the servers on. That's it.
I won't even say we kept the servers functional (Cyrodil performance). We literally just kept them on.
Which is one of the reasons I am no longer subbed.
I'll pay for content that they FINISH.
Absolutely. DLC should be free, paid in full (not rented or leased), for at least double the time we subbed for, because that's absolutely where the development $ came from.NadiusMaximus wrote: »Merlin13KAGL wrote: »Technically, we funded it long in advance.
Stuff that was said to be finished and would be released before B2p went live should be free to anyone that was paying the sub back then.
What the *** did we get for a years subscription? Craglorn? Beta console testing? Stuff is still broke, stuff is still bugged, still nothing new.
Sallington wrote: »NadiusMaximus wrote: »Merlin13KAGL wrote: »Technically, we funded it long in advance.
Stuff that was said to be finished and would be released before B2p went live should be free to anyone that was paying the sub back then.
What the *** did we get for a years subscription? Craglorn? Beta console testing? Stuff is still broke, stuff is still bugged, still nothing new.
This is how I feel as well. We basically paid $15 a month to fund the console launch and keep the servers on. That's it.
I won't even say we kept the servers functional (Cyrodil performance). We literally just kept them on.
Which is one of the reasons I am no longer subbed.
I'll pay for content that they FINISH.
MornaBaine wrote: »While I expect Imperial City and Orsinium/Wrothgar to be DLC for which they expect payment, if that is indeed going to be the case it leaves a pretty bad taste in my mouth since these were promised additions LONG before the game went B2P. They should be free updates based on that alone. Otherwise, my suspicion is going to be that ZoS deliberately held them back as long as they did just so they could make us pay extra for them. And that stinks. I'd LIKE to think the company is better than that.
I loooove the smell of schadenfreude in the morning.
So, the same community who allegedly "begged" ZOS to make the game F2P (or B2P, if you care about the distinction) is now begging for free content. Priceless.
P.S. If it were up to me, the game would still be subscription only and all content would be free.
You SHOULD sub @ElricFrancis. Sometimes.
My plan:
1: Sub for 1 month when DLC is released
2: Play DLC for 1 month (likely finish DLC)
3: If I want that DLC for keeps, put 1500 Crowns toward purchase
4: Repeat whenever DLC is released.
5: Buy 5500 Crown packs for $40 otherwise
6: Profit
They used it for console development.any project started during payed beta test should be free. Its not like they used that money for anything else.
Dagoth_Rac wrote: »If ZOS really wanted a cash grab, they would have made the potions and food in cash shop better than in-game. They would have made the new XP Boosters cash shop only. They would have made it where you could not have a mount or pet except via the cash shop, or cash shop mounts would have better stats. They have done a nice job of trying to not turn the game into the typical cash grab where the game is nearly unplayable if you don't pony up for a subscription or cash shop items
jcodbf2b14_ESO wrote: »I am going to say that the Imperial City will be free. I think this because it is such a big thing for PvP and it needs to be for everyone.
Everything after will be paid DLC.
When Firor compares what Elder Scrolls will offer its premium players to free offerings, he brings up issues that F2P titles once had in abundance, yet are not as prevelant now. "Elder Scrolls is about being in a giant world, where you’re exploring, and you go to a dungeon, and you don’t get a paygate in front of you saying you don’t have this dungeon," Firor says. "Which means, to us, you need to monetise it outside of the game." While paygates are increasingly less common, some barriers still persist. Certainly, the penny-pinching tactics found in The Old Republic are not desirable.
And there's something to be said about not being confronted with extra costs while in the game itself. "You go outside the game, you pay your month, you go in the game, and when you’re in the game, you’re in the game," Firor clarifies. "There’s no real world stuff reaching in to grab you." Few things break immersion quicker than a game telling you that you can spend cash to unlock chests or get special gear.
Source?
If you're a subscriber, then yes. If not, then no.
When Firor compares what Elder Scrolls will offer its premium players to free offerings, he brings up issues that F2P titles once had in abundance, yet are not as prevelant now. "Elder Scrolls is about being in a giant world, where you’re exploring, and you go to a dungeon, and you don’t get a paygate in front of you saying you don’t have this dungeon," Firor says. "Which means, to us, you need to monetise it outside of the game." While paygates are increasingly less common, some barriers still persist. Certainly, the penny-pinching tactics found in The Old Republic are not desirable.
And there's something to be said about not being confronted with extra costs while in the game itself. "You go outside the game, you pay your month, you go in the game, and when you’re in the game, you’re in the game," Firor clarifies. "There’s no real world stuff reaching in to grab you." Few things break immersion quicker than a game telling you that you can spend cash to unlock chests or get special gear.
Source?
I loooove the smell of schadenfreude in the morning.
So, the same community who allegedly "begged" ZOS to make the game F2P (or B2P, if you care about the distinction) is now begging for free content. Priceless.
P.S. If it were up to me, the game would still be subscription only and all content would be free.
Yeh we never could figure out exactly who that "community" was. Sure wasn't us here.
MornaBaine wrote: »While I expect Imperial City and Orsinium/Wrothgar to be DLC for which they expect payment, if that is indeed going to be the case it leaves a pretty bad taste in my mouth since these were promised additions LONG before the game went B2P. They should be free updates based on that alone. Otherwise, my suspicion is going to be that ZoS deliberately held them back as long as they did just so they could make us pay extra for them. And that stinks. I'd LIKE to think the company is better than that.