Best Healer? Need to make a Tank!

RMAKnowlton · June 2015

whats best to make a healer ? Templar? class?
Is it better to make a melee healer or a magic?

Saturn · June 2015

Currently the easiest class to heal with is the Templar as it has very powerful class heals, whereas other classes can really only use the healing staff abilities to heal. This is all magicka based abilities, I'm not sure what a "melee healer" is

AlnilamE · June 2015

If you are a healer, you want to stay away from the stuff that can kill you, so range.

Best class is relative. People like using Templars, but sorcs and nightblades are great healers too. I'm not sure about DKs as I never tried healing with one.

I'm not sure what the TANK part of your title is about?

Shunravi · June 2015

Templars have bol, so they are the top healer by default. Nightblades come second imo. A magica healer would be best. The big stamina heal comes from pvp, and is going to be made more accessable soon... But even then, there are more options with magica.

Xendyn · June 2015

Templar is a great class for healers, just more versatility with a skill line devoted to it and not just dependant on the resto staff.
Also you can switch with them from tank to healer with a gear swap and creativity.
Some good ones I've seen can do both at once lol

Natjur · June 2015

Make a Templar Tank\Healer (since the tank is holding block a lot, might as well heal as well)

Templar Tank\healers (doing both roles for 4 man instances) means you can take 3 pure dps with you when doing vet instance runs, it makes everything a lot faster.

Templar healing then whole group without using a single resto staff skill while taunting\blocking is very useful

Robbmrp · June 2015

I was a Magicka Templar for Dungeon healing/dps and it worked out great. Tons of healing abilities and AOE Damage as well as the Jesus beam for boss fights. All that makes dungeons a breeze.

As of now though, I have set aside by healers armor and equipped 5 Whitestrake with 4 Seducer and having a blast in PVP as a Dual Wield sword Templar.....

Sallington · June 2015

Templar by far. Nothing beats the burst heal. And as a Brenton templar I never ran out of mana.

traigusb14_ESO2 · June 2015

Natjur wrote: »

Make a Templar Tank\Healer (since the tank is holding block a lot, might as well heal as well)

Templar Tank\healers (doing both roles for 4 man instances) means you can take 3 pure dps with you when doing vet instance runs, it makes everything a lot faster.

Templar healing then whole group without using a single resto staff skill while taunting\blocking is very useful

Nobody ever does this... /shifty eyes.

People say I can't heal in heavy without a resto. I heard it on the forums!

Guess I better stop.

Spottswoode · June 2015

Any class can heal, but if you want to make a healer/tank I recommend either Templar or DK.

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

Natjur wrote: »

Make a Templar Tank\Healer (since the tank is holding block a lot, might as well heal as well)

Templar Tank\healers (doing both roles for 4 man instances) means you can take 3 pure dps with you when doing vet instance runs, it makes everything a lot faster.

Templar healing then whole group without using a single resto staff skill while taunting\blocking is very useful

Nobody ever does this... /shifty eyes.

People say I can't heal in heavy without a resto. I heard it on the forums!

Guess I better stop.

Shhh.....you'll make them think hybrid heavy templars can heal and tank.....we don't need that.

Shunravi wrote: »

Templars have bol, so they are the top healer by default. Nightblades come second imo. A magica healer would be best. The big stamina heal comes from pvp, and is going to be made more accessable soon... But even then, there are more options with magica.

I'm going to develop an ulcer if I keep hearing BOL is the only reason templars are great healers.

bertenburnyb16_ESO · June 2015

Only stam aoe healing skill is vigor wich unlocks at alliance skill line lvl 10 (alliance rank 24) so u better go mag

traigusb14_ESO2 · June 2015

Spottswoode wrote: »

Any class can heal, but if you want to make a healer/tank I recommend either Templar or DK.

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

Natjur wrote: »

Make a Templar Tank\Healer (since the tank is holding block a lot, might as well heal as well)

Templar Tank\healers (doing both roles for 4 man instances) means you can take 3 pure dps with you when doing vet instance runs, it makes everything a lot faster.

Templar healing then whole group without using a single resto staff skill while taunting\blocking is very useful

Nobody ever does this... /shifty eyes.

People say I can't heal in heavy without a resto. I heard it on the forums!

Guess I better stop.

Shhh.....you'll make them think hybrid heavy templars can heal and tank.....we don't need that.

Shunravi wrote: »

Templars have bol, so they are the top healer by default. Nightblades come second imo. A magica healer would be best. The big stamina heal comes from pvp, and is going to be made more accessable soon... But even then, there are more options with magica.

I'm going to develop an ulcer if I keep hearing BOL is the only reason templars are great healers.

lol.

BOL is so popular because so many people running barely controlled chaos of PUG groups... or their guild group is too high ;p

If you need the best "oh crap!" spell in the game, you are having too many "oh crap!" moments.

Shunravi · June 2015

Spottswoode wrote: »

Any class can heal, but if you want to make a healer/tank I recommend either Templar or DK.

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

Natjur wrote: »

Make a Templar Tank\Healer (since the tank is holding block a lot, might as well heal as well)

Templar Tank\healers (doing both roles for 4 man instances) means you can take 3 pure dps with you when doing vet instance runs, it makes everything a lot faster.

Templar healing then whole group without using a single resto staff skill while taunting\blocking is very useful

Nobody ever does this... /shifty eyes.

People say I can't heal in heavy without a resto. I heard it on the forums!

Guess I better stop.

Shhh.....you'll make them think hybrid heavy templars can heal and tank.....we don't need that.

Shunravi wrote: »

Templars have bol, so they are the top healer by default. Nightblades come second imo. A magica healer would be best. The big stamina heal comes from pvp, and is going to be made more accessable soon... But even then, there are more options with magica.

I'm going to develop an ulcer if I keep hearing BOL is the only reason templars are great healers.

All i said is that it guarantees the top position. Yes there is more (much much more) but bol is a big one.

Natjur · June 2015

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

Natjur wrote: »

Make a Templar Tank\Healer (since the tank is holding block a lot, might as well heal as well)

Templar Tank\healers (doing both roles for 4 man instances) means you can take 3 pure dps with you when doing vet instance runs, it makes everything a lot faster.

Templar healing then whole group without using a single resto staff skill while taunting\blocking is very useful

Nobody ever does this... /shifty eyes.
People say I can't heal in heavy without a resto. I heard it on the forums!
Guess I better stop.

I love it when we are on the third boss in the instance and the dps goes... um who is the healer, and I say I am, and they go, but your the tank using a shield, how are you also healing us? Its funny how long some groups take before they work out that the tank is also the healer.

With three dps, the instance runs are fast, even with pug groups (as long as they don't stand in stupid red too much)

....but templars needs lots of buffs tho

Our dps is still low.

lathbury · June 2015

Natjur wrote: »

Make a Templar Tank\Healer (since the tank is holding block a lot, might as well heal as well)

Templar Tank\healers (doing both roles for 4 man instances) means you can take 3 pure dps with you when doing vet instance runs, it makes everything a lot faster.

Templar healing then whole group without using a single resto staff skill while taunting\blocking is very useful

or dont take a healer take a tank and either 1 or two magika nighblades.

today did spindle clutch v12 scaled with 1 v3 tank and two nightblades one magika dps, 1 stamina dps. nobody died

traigusb14_ESO2 · June 2015

Natjur wrote: »

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

Natjur wrote: »

Make a Templar Tank\Healer (since the tank is holding block a lot, might as well heal as well)

Templar Tank\healers (doing both roles for 4 man instances) means you can take 3 pure dps with you when doing vet instance runs, it makes everything a lot faster.

Templar healing then whole group without using a single resto staff skill while taunting\blocking is very useful

Nobody ever does this... /shifty eyes.
People say I can't heal in heavy without a resto. I heard it on the forums!
Guess I better stop.

I love it when we are on the third boss in the instance and the dps goes... um who is the healer, and I say I am, and they go, but your the tank using a shield, how are you also healing us? Its funny how long some groups take before they work out that the tank is also the healer.

With three dps, the instance runs are fast, even with pug groups (as long as they don't stand in stupid red too much)

There was a guy trolling last week about how he yelled at every templar on consoles he saw without a resto staff in dungeons. He even wanted resto staves for everyone to be a loading screen tip lol.

I have no problem with a temp that WANTS to use a resto and/or wear light armor. I find that full heavy tank gear and Sword and Board is a great way not to get smooshed by heal aggro.

I started as an off tank and secondary healer... I shared heal duties with a sorc, and shared tanking with a NB friend. and we had a variety of guildies do last DPS slot.

Eventually as we leveled we stopped sharing so we could each do 2 of the 3 roles.

here's how I tried to explain it to him, but he wasn't buying it.

Most groups in ESO everyone is doing 2 roles.

Most tank DK tanks and some Temp tanks are doing Tank/dps... most healers are doing heal/dps. etc.

A lot of DPS are doing dps/dps (the good ones really are tuning out a lot of damage)

So if i'm doing tank/heal. I'm just letting the person who would be doing healing do dps/dps instead of heal/dps.

It is not really a huge shift in party dynamics. I'm just trading dps for heals on my bars and someone else is just picking up that dps.

A templar with resto is often basically specced heal/heal.. Which is too much heal for a good group who can block and not stand in red. That one chunk of dps goes missing.

Not always the case. A resto temp can choose enough dps skills and choices from both heal lines and still do heal /dps... but a lot of people forgo the extra dps to the group's detriment.. or to carry people who stand in red too much.

The really freeform character skill mixing throws a lot of people off.

danovic · June 2015

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

Natjur wrote: »

Make a Templar Tank\Healer (since the tank is holding block a lot, might as well heal as well)

Templar Tank\healers (doing both roles for 4 man instances) means you can take 3 pure dps with you when doing vet instance runs, it makes everything a lot faster.

Templar healing then whole group without using a single resto staff skill while taunting\blocking is very useful

Nobody ever does this... /shifty eyes.

People say I can't heal in heavy without a resto. I heard it on the forums!

Guess I better stop.

The thing is you have to be the tank/healer templar in heavy armor as every mob that hits you regenerates magic. If you just healing and not getting hit then they correct you will run out of magic in heavy armor. Always hate it when someone pulls a mob off me with a taunt thinking they have to protect the healer.

traigusb14_ESO2 · June 2015

danovic wrote: »

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

Natjur wrote: »

Make a Templar Tank\Healer (since the tank is holding block a lot, might as well heal as well)

Templar Tank\healers (doing both roles for 4 man instances) means you can take 3 pure dps with you when doing vet instance runs, it makes everything a lot faster.

Templar healing then whole group without using a single resto staff skill while taunting\blocking is very useful

Nobody ever does this... /shifty eyes.

People say I can't heal in heavy without a resto. I heard it on the forums!

Guess I better stop.

The thing is you have to be the tank as every mob that hits you regenerates magic. If you just healing and not getting hit then they correct you will run out of magic in heavy armor. Always hate it when someone pulls a mob off me with a taunt thinking they have to protect the healer.

I can just heal too.

I have good MGK regen and potions. I usually play with people that don't require huge amounts of burst healing. So I can heal/dps easy if my NB buddy is tanking/dps.

I usually am doing stamina style DPS when I heal so i'm using the STA I was using to tank to do damage, and the exact same amount of MGK to heal... the heavy armor hit regen is nice but not critical.

I do switch my jewelry from block cost reductions to spell cost reductions when not tanking, but I keep same armor.

waterfairy · June 2015

A friend of mine is trying this, he's a heavy armored sword and board templar. It seems to be working well enough so far as he puts most of his points in magic and some in stamina to be able to alternate skills in combat...some templar skills can be morphed to use stamina instead of magic.