qsnoopyjr wrote: »

It's allowed.

Tired of people getting inside?
Stop standing by the ledge.

Adds element of surprise to the game and I like it.

What?

I'm talking about people ambushing through the door onto guards or having guards pull them through with chains. You can't jump onto walls from people anymore.

SirAndy wrote: »

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

It's allowed.
Tired of people getting inside?
Stop standing by the ledge.
Adds element of surprise to the game and I like it.

You obviously don't know what the OP is talking about ...

Clearly, he does not.

Domander wrote: »

Please change the title, a keep is different from an outpost.

It's done into both, so that distinction is irrelevant (and even if it wasn't for both, it would still be needlessly splitting hairs).

Zheg wrote: »

No matter how egregious or well-publicized the exploit itself or the exploiters, as long as it happens in Cyrodiil and doesn't involve XP, ZOS won't do diddly about it. The bans they sometimes hand out are just temporary; we see the same exploiters back in game after just a short time period. This has been an ongoing request for over a year now and very rarely gets a response much less action. Just accept it and move on, talking about it will run the risk of getting YOU banned from forums for some naming and shaming crap.

The only way to put pressure on them is to post vids on reddit/facebook/any social media you can - that's the only thing that ZOS reacts to unfortunately.

Sad but true

Domander wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Domander wrote: »

Please change the title, a keep is different from an outpost.

It's done into both, so that distinction is irrelevant (and even if it wasn't for both, it would still be needlessly splitting hairs).

It's a pretty big difference, exploiting through the door of an outpost VS dragon leaping/ambushing/werewolf into a keep (not through a door)

The latter is not exploiting.

If it had said outpost I would of known right away about what was the topic.

You can do the former on both keeps and outposts, so again I reiterate the distinction is completely irrelevant and splitting hairs .

Rylana wrote: »

Solution 2: Fight fire with fire.

Yes, obviously, that whole 'Well he was doing it, so I did it too' explanation always makes things better. Lets all throw integrity to the wind.

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Lol at all the people looking for ethics across the board in a video game. It is an exploited bug, the devs haven't fixed it yet, and players will continue doing it because they simply don't care.

I don't know of any MMO where asking the community nicely brought about wide spread change. I've always known that the devs need to keep plugging holes and fixing exploits in order to bring players into line.

Honestly, all the entering keeps and outposts through the exploits/bugs is annoying. But then I think about the individual doing it behind their screen and keyboard, I look at my biceps, and I laugh. True story.

Considering that the nature of an MMO is to attract as many players as possible, dismissing those that promote ethics, and good sportsmanship seems a bit shortsighted. Cyrodiil is seriously lacking in the 'massively' part of a MMO, mocking people who'd rather take measures to encourage more people to PvP does anything but make you part of the solution.

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

JTorus wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Lol at all the people looking for ethics across the board in a video game. It is an exploited bug, the devs haven't fixed it yet, and players will continue doing it because they simply don't care.

I don't know of any MMO where asking the community nicely brought about wide spread change. I've always known that the devs need to keep plugging holes and fixing exploits in order to bring players into line.

Honestly, all the entering keeps and outposts through the exploits/bugs is annoying. But then I think about the individual doing it behind their screen and keyboard, I look at my biceps, and I laugh. True story.

Considering that the nature of an MMO is to attract as many players as possible, dismissing those that promote ethics, and good sportsmanship seems a bit shortsighted. Cyrodiil is seriously lacking in the 'massively' part of a MMO, mocking people who'd rather take measures to encourage more people to PvP does anything but make you part of the solution.

First off, I have never entered a keep or outpost, or main gate because I don't even know how to nor do i care to search around for the answer on how to.

Secondly, yeah I am laughing about people looking for ethics and a higher level of etiquette in ESO or any video game for that matter. Players use exploits (more often than not) knowing it is an exploit. They do not care they want kills. It's up to the devs to bring the herds in line.

I bet you double park at the grocery store too, don't you?

Brian Wheeler said during the ESO Live segment that they are currently working on a fix for this.

Typically in this game if enough people use an exploit it eventually becomes a "feature". We have seen more then a few ZOS flips from unintended to feature vs fix. frustrating to say the least

JTorus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Solution 2: Fight fire with fire.

Yes, obviously, that whole 'Well he was doing it, so I did it too' explanation always makes things better. Lets all throw integrity to the wind.

Youre implying the general playerbase of ESO has integrity. use the hell out of everything broken until it gets so much attention that finally the devs do something about it

in the meantime, using it against your opponent evens the playing field

Rylana wrote: »

Solution 1: Stop zerg blobbing and leave scouts in all held objectives

Other then AFKers, no one would want to stand in a keep all day making sure no one comes in, I'd rather just quit pvp.

dennissomb16_ESO wrote: »

Typically in this game if enough people use an exploit it eventually becomes a "feature". We have seen more then a few ZOS flips from unintended to feature vs fix. frustrating to say the least

If they were to make it a feature then I'd like them to bring back dragon leaping onto the walls, or chaining people down or up from the walls Along with other ways for classes to jump on walls and have fun (DK's cant be the only ones :c ).

I personally enjoyed having people jump up on the wall, made defending a keep less of Siege v Siege, it couldnt really be exploited back then (unless a player jumped into the inner while the keep was flagged) The only thing that bothers me about whats going on today is a player can jump into a keep and kill all the guards, then flag it from the inside and if there is 2 they can capture it.

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

It's extremely annoying having people glitch into outposts and kill all the guards before the outpost is already flagged.

It's gotten pretty old pretty quickly.

ZoS pls

Wait, didn't they fix the flying sorcs?

JTorus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

JTorus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Solution 2: Fight fire with fire.

Yes, obviously, that whole 'Well he was doing it, so I did it too' explanation always makes things better. Lets all throw integrity to the wind.

Youre implying the general playerbase of ESO has integrity. use the hell out of everything broken until it gets so much attention that finally the devs do something about it

in the meantime, using it against your opponent evens the playing field

This game has a good community, I've seen it since beta, the majority of folks are decent people, who don't exploit, or abuse broken mechanics. They're helpful, they're nice, and they want to see this game do well. It just so happens that they don't really hang around in Cyrodiil much these days. The individuals who subscribe to the 'win at all costs' philosophy haven't prevailed, they've just been left to rot in their own stink. Everyone else is moving on, or at least waiting for improvements.

So yes, the overall ESO general playerbase has integrity. A metric S***ton of it. They're just quiet about it.

Caltrops, permabats, snipehax, twin sisters, valkyn, wall of elements, intentional lagging with ulti animations, printscreening to fly, etc etc

Yeah loads of integrity and thats just a sample of some of the more memorable exploits from the last year =/