"Given the scarcity of Psijic Ambrosia recipe fragments at the moment"

There you got your issue. It isn't scarce, it is just a hype cause it is new. Prices of the ambrosia itself as well as the recipe prices have been going down over the last few days. This trend will continue till, just like other things, there will be no more reason to value those things at all.

No. Dailies are supposed to encourage daily logging in and rare items are a reward to dedicated players, not casuals.

Also, please stop saying drop rates are broken and prices are through the roof when it's been only a week. Of course it'd rare when it's new, what else did you expect? This kind of behavior led console players to ask for vaml and wolf bites sold in the Crown Store. Just wait, it will become more common. Ambrosia is already quite affordable.

Oh I bought scrolls dont get me wrong, and I usually (try to) log in daily

But I think it extends more for purpose of being in game at the time, what am I doing in game today?

Like lets say I log in for 1-2hrs when I get home from work and I set my mission for that day as AP Farming - so I want to spend my time in PvP or whatever other purpose I deem on that day

Or maybe im playing an entirely different character altogether?

Its not just the whole Psijic factor but other mats as well. Thats just an example. Since the hirelings are rather useless now it makes sense to be a little less rigid with the writ system

Its not Playing the Game the way we want if things like Writs become a chore.

Daily is daily. They are fine as it is. Just because other people can play every day whereas you can't, doesn't mean both players should get equal numbers of available writs to do. If you miss out on daily writs, you miss out.

P.S. I am also a casual player.

Rosveen wrote: »

No. Dailies are supposed to encourage daily logging in and rare items are a reward to dedicated players, not casuals.

Because it's REALLY dedicated to log in for 5 minutes every day, God forbid the 'casuals' get the same thing as someone as 'dedicated' as that.

LMFAO.

Some games allow stacking, one I play you can stack up to 7 days, which is great for those who aren't unemployed or students; the two demographics it seems to me most likely to be able to log in every day, even for just 5 minutes, the rest of us have real-lives which usually means we have commitments to others most days.

To put it bluntly he games ecosystem is already too large to do everything unless you're vesting more than 15hrs a week into it. Sacrifices are made by many of us so we can focus on the components of the game that are important now. Heck I didn't even touch PvP until 2-3 months ago.

My idea doesnt involve NOT doing the writs, it involves saving them for another day of the week when you specifically want to do writ and crafting related tasks. You would still have to find the time to do them. It would just give us more choice on when that time is.

Lets say I come home from work, and have 1.5 hours to play - So I drop a Crown XP Scroll and work on a lowbie for that 1.5hrs, but Whilst I also wanted to do my writs I couldn't because it would be a complete waste of time when the scroll is active..

No im pretty sure its whichever character consumes it but would need to check / verify that.

KerinKor wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

No. Dailies are supposed to encourage daily logging in and rare items are a reward to dedicated players, not casuals.

Because it's REALLY dedicated to log in for 5 minutes every day, God forbid the 'casuals' get the same thing as someone as 'dedicated' as that.

LMFAO.

Some games allow stacking, one I play you can stack up to 7 days, which is great for those who aren't unemployed or students; the two demographics it seems to me most likely to be able to log in every day, even for just 5 minutes, the rest of us have real-lives which usually means we have commitments to others most days.

I've been employed full-time for more years than I care to admit (because it shows how freaking old I'm getting), and I've got plenty of commitments to friends and family. It's still incredibly easy to log in for 10 minutes or so every day, even on days when I'm not going to have time to actually be playing.

Part of my morning routine when I wake up is to have a coffee or tea in front of the computer before my morning shower. I check a few comedy websites, log in to ESO to grab my hireling mails, and do some writs, and by the time I'm finished my coffee/tea (and sometimes breakfast, but I don't usually eat breakfast) I'm done, I'm more awake, and I'm ready to finish getting ready to leave for work.

Days when the server is down for maintenance in the morning are the only days when that doesn't work for me, and on those days it's not too onerous to log on for a few minutes when I get home from work, even if I won't actually be playing that evening.

Rosveen wrote: »

No. Dailies are supposed to encourage daily logging in and rare items are a reward to dedicated players, not casuals.

Also, please stop saying drop rates are broken and prices are through the roof when it's been only a week. Of course it'd rare when it's new, what else did you expect? This kind of behavior led console players to ask for vaml and wolf bites sold in the Crown Store. Just wait, it will become more common. Ambrosia is already quite affordable.

Agreed. The point of a daily is to get you to log in.. daily.

AlnilamE wrote: »

UrQuan, your morning routine sounds a lot like mine. :-)

I actually find it's a good way to get my brain prepared for leaving for work

Ranique wrote: »

"Given the scarcity of Psijic Ambrosia recipe fragments at the moment"

There you got your issue. It isn't scarce, it is just a hype cause it is new. Prices of the ambrosia itself as well as the recipe prices have been going down over the last few days. This trend will continue till, just like other things, there will be no more reason to value those things at all.

Isn't scarce? For me, the RNG gods just don't let the roll go my way. Eight characters with provisioning and seven days of writs and I haven't seen a single page. If you're counting, that's 56 provisioning writs without a page. I know several other people that got one on the first writ they did, then a second the next day. For some people, the pages are extremely rare!! For others, not so much. About to see if I can go for 64 in a row without a page... It's now a game to see how long I can go!

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Ambrosia is already quite affordable.

No, it really isn't, not for players on their first toon working through the levelling process.

Sure, its cheap-as-chips for players with multiple veteran characters and huge stockpiles of mats.

Like most game designers you look at the game from one, very myopic, position - the end-game player.

90% of the total content isn't end-game.

All The Best

Just to make things clear, I'm the kind of endgame player who doesn't do writs every day and could never afford constant upkeep of Ambrosia. I'd actually love it if I could stack writs, it would make my life easier. But, well, it defeats the purpose of daily quests.

Ambrosia isn't necessary for 1-50 content, there's enough to do to keep you overleveled. In fact, I'd avoid Ambrosia as a newcomer so as not to lose out on loot to sell. I'd only start using it after hitting vet 1. By the time you get there, you should be able to afford a few bottles - and the price will have fallen further. Moreover, I don't think we should be able to easily afford enough Ambrosia to cover all our playtime: 1) ZOS needs to make money on the crown store version and 2) it doesn't feel right to permanently speed up leveling like that. Of course, you can do it with crown Ambrosia... Either way, the potion seems to be suited for focused grinding sessions.

I just don't think this is such a huge issue when it's been only about a week. Why don't we talk about it when the price stabilizes? Honestly, I'm more worried about Roe than the recipe, everyone's fishing right now, but they'll get bored of it eventually.

hamgatan wrote: »

Given the scarcity of Psijic Ambrosia recipe fragments at the moment, I think something needs to be done to the Writ System.

So what if the writs themselves stacked in a similar fashion to Enlightenment, in that, for casual players who don't log in every day - The writs available stack until next login with a 7 day expunge timer.

So for example - I do a writ but then I dont log in for three days, on the third day I log in and I am able to do three Provisioner Writs which have been stacked one per day whilst i've been away. However if I do a writ, go on holiday for 10 days - I only get a stack of three writs because my writ stack reset after a week.

This would benefit casual players immensely

Thoughts? Discuss..

If you don't log in that often, they you don't need as many XP potions. Problem solved.

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Ambrosia is already quite affordable.

No, it really isn't, not for players on their first toon working through the levelling process.

Sure, its cheap-as-chips for players with multiple veteran characters and huge stockpiles of mats.

Like most game designers you look at the game from one, very myopic, position - the end-game player.

90% of the total content isn't end-game.

All The Best

But Ambrosia is kinda pointless on your first toon apart from compensating for the lack of single player content after Cadwell's Gold. So it seems pointless to bother with it until you are almost done with Cadwell's Silver.

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

There's more stereotyping on player types in this thread than there should be to be perfectly honest. Can't anyone say anything in these threads without putting down others? Geez...

I will say this though: Provisioning Writs should not ask the player to craft something they haven't learned the recipe for since it could take days or even weeks if you're unlucky enough to find the recipe provided you don't luck out and know someone who has it and hasn't used it or find someone selling it. I mean really I find more repeat recipes in all the time I spend searching containers than I do new ones at this point and I only have 82 recipes learned on my main provisioner...

Buy the recipe at a guild store. Each tier only has 6 recipes needed for writs. Recipes are all over.

And maybe you have to skip a day if you don't have the recipe. That is life.

Even if I wanted to spend money I am saving up for other things on said recipes there's no guarantee I don't have them already and I honestly doubt a recipe in a guild store would be sold for chump change but just to humor you I will go see what some guilds have in stock. Also just found recipe #83 a bit ago lol