Character Customization

HallowScythe
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I know this dead horse has been beaten into a festering bloody pulp that shall soon be shipped off to the glue factory where it will eventually be used in an attempt at holding together the eventual bad arguments that will arise on this forum.

Anyway... We need a way to change our characters looks after we've made them. This is something that a great many of us want and it's about time we got it.

Also a race change option would be great, personally I love the race I chose but I know of many who would like to see this as an option. Perhaps a crown store thing? Who knows...
  • Panda244
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    I know this dead horse has been beaten into a festering bloody pulp that shall soon be shipped off to the glue factory where it will eventually be used in an attempt at holding together the eventual bad arguments that will arise on this forum.

    Anyway... We need a way to change our characters looks after we've made them. This is something that a great many of us want and it's about time we got it.

    Also a race change option would be great, personally I love the race I chose but I know of many who would like to see this as an option. Perhaps a crown store thing? Who knows...

    They said they might add a Barber like thingy in the last live episode I believe, as far as Race change goes, I'd be inclined to agree because they have changed a lot of the racial passives over the course of the 8 months the game has been out, and if you built a build around the Argonian racials, specifically, well it's practically useless now.
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  • RainfeatherUK
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    Panda244 wrote: »
    They said they might add a Barber like thingy in the last live episode I believe, as far as Race change goes, I'd be inclined to agree because they have changed a lot of the racial passives over the course of the 8 months the game has been out, and if you built a build around the Argonian racials, specifically, well it's practically useless now.

    Heres hoping they throw in the name change with that then X_X Not sure 'Lifts-her-tail' goes so well if I switch her to Imperial haha.
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    I know this dead horse has been beaten into a festering bloody pulp that shall soon be shipped off to the glue factory where it will eventually be used in an attempt at holding together the eventual bad arguments that will arise on this forum.

    Anyway... We need a way to change our characters looks after we've made them. This is something that a great many of us want and it's about time we got it.

    Also a race change option would be great, personally I love the race I chose but I know of many who would like to see this as an option. Perhaps a crown store thing? Who knows...

    Face and hair changes please. Race change ahhhhh.
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    For a game with an amazing character creator its such a waste to just make once without any ability to correct mistakes.
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  • starkerealm
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    I think the specific phrase was, "we're aware of and looking into this" or something like that. They said the same thing about extra character slots at the same time.
  • TheShadowScout
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    Posted it before, post it again.

    Barbershop with gold cost for everyday apereance changes (adornments, hairstyle, makeup) and paying crowns for structural appereance changes (eyecolor, height, shape, etc.) as well as name changes and perhaps even race changes in the crown store.
    ASAP. Too many people lust for having the option.
  • Raethek
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    Hopefully they will have more cultural options to create a unique look instead of shared hairstyles etc. Purchased through the market or by visiting the Hairsmith.
  • MornaBaine
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    *kicks the horse

    This is one of those things that needs to happen sooner rather than later because the mechanics to do it already exist in the game. Therefore further delays are not acceptable. Originally I felt they should implement Appearance Change (which would return your character to the character creation screen and literally allow you to change EVERYTHING except race and class) by having your character visit an in-game NPC wizard who would perform the spell for you for an exorbitant amount of gold. I thought name changes should be purchasable at banks (and when the Justice System came in the banker would give you a nice admonishment about how changing your name would not allow you to escape the law as name changes are reported to the authorities!) and hairstyles and adornments/jewelry should be purchasable at an NPC vendor in the marketplace. All with in-game gold.

    But the reality is that now we have the cash shop to deal with and we know very well these options are going to cost crowns/real money. So be it. That being the case, if I purchase a new hairstyle I want it to go in the costume tab and be able to be applied to all my characters at any time. Same with adornments and makeup, scars and tats. If I have to pay for each one of these things individually with real money they need to be account wide.

    Name changes need to be available and be very cheap.

    Total appearance change can be a more premium service but must then include the name change as well. Though even this should not cost very much since, again, the ability to do it already exists. Nothing new required, merely the ability to return to character creation with an existing character and the ability to change the visuals that do not alter game mechanics.
    Edited by MornaBaine on February 21, 2015 1:38PM
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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Visuals...yes...race changes should require re-rolling unless it's a crown service.
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  • TheShadowScout
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    I always thought, it would be a nice touch to have some "recordkeeper" in your fractions capital city who would change your characters name in the governmental records for a "processing fee" (in crowns). Much more fun then have it be some OoC crown store thing...

    Like I mentioned, I still think "everyday" appereance changes ought to be for a gold cost, in barbershops as common as dye stations, with new hairstyle options and adornments, and makeup or whatever unlockable in-game like dyes (and account wide like dyes). Unlockable through archievements, and/or maybe also research, and/or maybe also sold in the crown store, whatever or all of it.

    While "redesign" appereance changes ought to be in only one place, cost crowns, and lets you change pretty much everything. A good thing would be a "skinshaper" wizard found in some out of the way place... it would be quite possible to have that go to the character generator UI, and just charge a crown cost for every slider moved, to be paid once the customer is satisfied and clicks "done"...
    Gender change could be part of that. Or not. I'd see no reason to change any of mine, but... some people might. And again, some other people'd hate it I would think.

    Race change... should be possible as well, we DO have alchemical race changes in several quests in the game. Find the right master alchemist, buy the right potion... BUT. Expensive in terms of crowns, to keep some people from annoying many other people with FotM race changes. Not a problem for me, since I don't expect ever wanting to change my characters race - I tend to put a good deal of thought into their story before I make 'em. But some might really want this, others may hate it a lot, so charge the former much to pay for faster content development for making latter happier again.

    And while we're talking about changes... class change and alliance change have also been mentioned often enough on these forums that I'd call in the necromancers to take cae of the horse...

    Class changes might need some effort from the developers. Thus if they -ever- come (I can't think of ANY game that allowes them, though not knowing all games, I'd expect some might), they likely would be rather espensive. I for one am opposed to the notion, unless they added new classes to the game someday (I'd much rather they didn't, and added more skill lines we can grab to diversify our classes instead...).

    Fraction change... now that I would love to see, in form of some big quest unlockable only after completing all of cadwells (to sidestep the question of quest progression tracking), where you get a choice of staying loyal to your alliance, or betraying it for another... possibly a one time only thing, possibly unlocked only through a crown store purchase, or possibly available one time for all, and repeatable through crown store...

    Cheapness... hmmm... most games I remember have the namechange between 5 and 10 $ cash store. Since a great many people dislike namechanges, so they keep the price artificially high. Not a problem for me, I'd pay it if I felt I wanted to change a characters name.
    Barbershop as mentioned should cost only gold, and be cheap at that too. Possibly free, but I for one would be happy with a small cost on using dyes as well, for immersion reasons, so...
    And full appereance edit should cost accodring to how much you change... take 10$ worth of crowns, divide by number of sliders/options to be changed, get cost per change, something like that.
    Race change... I'd price that for at least 15$ worth of crowns.
    Class change... 20-25$ worth of crowns. If it were to become available at all.
    Fraction change... 10-15$ or something like that, I'd think.
  • charley222
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    i will like to have Barber shop and be able to change my face and body war paint
    maybe a good option for cash shop, barber shop good way to support the game and player will not complain is pay to win :)
    Edited by charley222 on February 21, 2015 9:51PM
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  • Suru
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    I really hope they never add faction changes. It would be a FU to players who reroll. If you want betray your alliance it shouldn't be cakewalk. You are in new territory with a new beginning.


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  • TicToc
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    Dead horse, or not, I think that it is a good idea. I have no plans of changing any of my heroes appearances, at the moment, but I can understand the need to be able to change the appearance of a character that you will have so much time invested in.

    Same with a name change. I had no idea that the name i chose would be what all of my heroes would be known by.

    Suru wrote: »
    I really hope they never add faction changes. It would be a FU to players who reroll. If you want betray your alliance it shouldn't be cakewalk. You are in new territory with a new beginning.

    It shouldn't be a cakewalk, but it shouldn't be impossible either. There is too much of a leveling grind for people to just reroll on another faction when they are already of a VR rank. If people need to change factions because they have friends or a guild in another faction, there needs to be some way to allow them to switch. Many would just quit before putting themselves through that again, and this game doesn't need to encourage people to quit.

    They could make it a lengthy questing process, like EQ2, or just pay for it.

  • HallowScythe
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  • IrishGirlGamer
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    I know this dead horse has been beaten into a festering bloody pulp that shall soon be shipped off to the glue factory where it will eventually be used in an attempt at holding together the eventual bad arguments that will arise on this forum.

    I gave you + Awesome for the first paragraph.
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    *kicks the horse

    This is one of those things that needs to happen sooner rather than later because the mechanics to do it already exist in the game.

    ^^^ This. Nothing really to add, just - yeah - this.

    I know Paul Sage made a comment about a certain television show and bank storage (ha, ha, Paul) but there's no logical reason not to allow a player to change their hair, face paint (because I'm gonna wear that face paint every day until I die!), and maybe most importantly, jewelry. So I might want to wear those beautiful earrings if I'm out shopping in Daggerfall, but I promise you I'm not wearing them into a fight.
    Visuals...yes...race changes should require re-rolling unless it's a crown service.

    Agreed. No racial, class or faction changes.

    Edited by IrishGirlGamer on February 21, 2015 11:07PM
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  • HallowScythe
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    I know this dead horse has been beaten into a festering bloody pulp that shall soon be shipped off to the glue factory where it will eventually be used in an attempt at holding together the eventual bad arguments that will arise on this forum.

    I gave you + Awesome for the first paragraph.
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    *kicks the horse

    This is one of those things that needs to happen sooner rather than later because the mechanics to do it already exist in the game.

    ^^^ This. Nothing really to add, just - yeah - this.

    I know Paul Sage made a comment about a certain television show and bank storage (ha, ha, Paul) but there's no logical reason not to allow a player to change their hair, face paint (because I'm gonna wear that face paint every day until I die!), and maybe most importantly, jewelry. So I might want to wear those beautiful earrings if I'm out shopping in Daggerfall, but I promise you I'm not wearing them into a fight.
    Visuals...yes...race changes should require re-rolling unless it's a crown service.

    Agreed. No racial, class or faction changes.

    The no class changes i understand, and due to the way veteran works faction changes are kind of useless, but race change could be a great crown store idea
  • TheShadowScout
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    Class changes would likely be annoying to implement, and the only real reason for them to ever come would be if they added a new classs someday. Which I kinda hope they won't. Other then that, I'd be opposed to them as well.

    Fraction changes on the other hand... yes, veteran content with Cadwells would be iffy, and thus any such change might be best locked until someone has done all of these. But... I know some people who are all "Oh, noes, my main is in DC, and yet my friends have their main in EP, so I can't PvP with them, and in any case, the pact is the coolest fraction of them all..." ;)
    And its not like there isn't some in game precedent for this as well. Auridion has a quest concerning some DC defector, Grahtwood has some argonians seeking asylum, Khajiit traders are trying to make a living in Bangkorai, there are several "crossfraction" NPCs outside the guilds, explorer pack allows any race in any place... it -could- be done. Might have some lasting drawbacks though, noone would fully trust a defector I'd think... (AP gains halved or something like that) but a big quest around your characters fraction loyalty where in the end you must decide if you stay true to your side even when they fail to be entirely true to you, or defect and seek your fortunes in another alliance... I could see that as interesting and enjoyable.

    And race changes... again, I mentioned there are precedents, and it certainly would make a good addition to the "things players will spend lots of crowns on" list.
  • Volkodav
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    Some people here say for the character changes to be payed for in Gold Crowns,..but,if someone isnt playing in PTS how do they pay then? Or is this all about only PTS.
  • TheShadowScout
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    Crowns will be coming to live soon enough... (latest with Tamriel Unlimited, though they could open the store a bit early if choose to) - just like anything on PTS, really. PTS just has a preview of the crown store for testing... once the system is done testing, people will be able to buy crowns with real money, cash store style.

    What we're talking about here is, some changes are small enough to be worth only a (in-game earned) gold price, while other changes are large enough to justify a (bought with real cash) crown price...
  • Rimfrost
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    I'd love to see a complete character recustomization option. Where you're granted access to the full customization, as when you created the character for the first time. Other MMO does this. It shouldn't be much of a problem development-wise.

    Personally, I was real content with my character...until I became a vampire. I play as a Dunmer, and my awesome facepaint now makes me look like the most seasoned of Ashlanders whereas it's shifted from black + red into a watered-down shade of grey + grey.
    It looks real bad, and I had no idea contracting Porphyric Hemophilia would do this to my appearance. This is, what I believe, a valid claim for recustomization as this effectively alters my characters appearance.
  • TheShadowScout
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    As necroed threads show, we have been asking for this for a long time, and are all hoping that now with console versions released, they may actually implement it soon. The normal soon, not the usual soon. After all, most of the current "things to spend crowns on" have little appeal to me (at least until they release some more "civilian clothing" costumes), but I would spend some on character edits and a namechange or two...
  • Bookwyrm
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    Posted it before, post it again.

    Barbershop with gold cost for everyday apereance changes (adornments, hairstyle, makeup) and paying crowns for structural appereance changes (eyecolor, height, shape, etc.) as well as name changes and perhaps even race changes in the crown store.
    ASAP. Too many people lust for having the option.

    I would rather all appearance changes be gold costs, with crown costs coming in for "crown exclusive" stuff--"crown store" hairstyles or adornments, that sort of thing, if we're including crown-cost in the barber shop.

    Because honestly, many structural changes occur over time for people--children grow taller, people gain and lose weight constantly, even eye-color can be changed with contacts (magic, perhaps, in ESO...and unique eye-styles could be included in the crown store, although I'm not as big on that idea), people age and get scars and tattoos...bodies change all the time. I get that changing your face completely is not something that happens commonly (well...without significant cost), but I'd still rather it be an all-gold option for features we already have in-game, and crowns to be spent on unique new features.

    But that's just, imo. :)
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