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The Cause of Lag (Screenshot)
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Hypertionb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Another knob blaming players for grouping up in an rvr game that's advertised as having battles with hundreds of players.
i have a problem with excessive lag caused by excessive checks caused by excessive Aoe ability use.
i have a problem with a single group being able to effectively render themselves immune to anything but another group doing the same things making all but those groups utterly pointless on the map..
i dont care if people want to group up and make use of what they are given in the game... its not their fault ZOS is slow to fix their game.
*** everything, put in a Population triggered GCD on abilities, up to 5s with power and cost increases to balance the lower number of abilities... Make excessive stacking (its not the only option if you have organization) more dangerous than beneficial.
Lag would be reduced by a 5th when servers are full up with just the removal of blobs, equal to non vet ones. with the GCD you could more than triple current server capacity.Edited by Hypertionb14_ESO on June 17, 2015 8:58PMI play every class in every situation. I love them all.0 -
AlexiasDaex✭✭Probably a reasonable fix is to reduce the max size of a raid group to 12.
It would make it increasingly harder for those red players to follow the leader when they are split into 4 different groups.
And (optional fix) the healing and support abilities would have a 100% effectiveness on other group/raid players, but would be reduced to have about 40% effectiveness on players outside of their 12 man raid.
Or when you are in a group of 24, make the crown and group chevrons are near invisible.
Anything to encourage the zerg play style to be split up so it IS actual organized groups of 12 instead of what appears to be flustercucking zergs.Former Emperor (Duh)
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WRX✭✭✭✭✭AlexiasDaex wrote: »Probably a reasonable fix is to reduce the max size of a raid group to 12.
It would make it increasingly harder for those red players to follow the leader when they are split into 4 different groups.
And (optional fix) the healing and support abilities would have a 100% effectiveness on other group/raid players, but would be reduced to have about 40% effectiveness on players outside of their 12 man raid.
Or when you are in a group of 24, make the crown and group chevrons are near invisible.
Anything to encourage the zerg play style to be split up so it IS actual organized groups of 12 instead of what appears to be flustercucking zergs.
I like the healing idea even with the way it is today.
Edited by WRX on June 17, 2015 9:24PMDecibel GM
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LazyLewis✭✭✭✭IxSTALKERxI wrote: »Their group is probably earning just as much AP as your group is to. Getting rewarded for no risk.
EXACTLY STALKER!DC - Chunky Nurse - Chunky Ninja - Chunky Dragon - Fabulously Chunky
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LazyLewis✭✭✭✭just waiting for the havoc lag comment. No one there in havoc, STILL HAVOC LAG!!!DKJFDFKDSFJSLF
Omg Dav Havoc cause every single bit of lag in the game didn't you know? They also are all hacker super code disrupter's who make evryone crash hired by ISIS to bring down the American GovernmentDC - Chunky Nurse - Chunky Ninja - Chunky Dragon - Fabulously Chunky
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eventide03b14a_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭They already said they were going to address the cause of lag:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/180480/pvp-update-june-2015#latest:trollin:0 -
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✭✭✭✭eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »They already said they were going to address the cause of lag:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/180480/pvp-update-june-2015#latest
Oh good, glad we dont have to worry about lag anymore in cyrodiil.0 -
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✭just waiting for the havoc lag comment. No one there in havoc, STILL HAVOC LAG!!!DKJFDFKDSFJSLF
Omg Dav Havoc cause every single bit of lag in the game didn't you know? They also are all hacker super code disrupter's who make evryone crash hired by ISIS to bring down the American Government
It's so adorable when the deniers come here and try to paint these elaborate scenarios of lag causation as a way to try to deflect from the issues certain guilds cause in the game. It's so pathetically transparent. ZOS has all but admitted the spammation of high particle AoE is a major cause of server degradation. We all know certain guilds deliberately stack and spam the culprit skills. 1+1=2 every time. It's not a conspiracy, isis or big foot.
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Hypertionb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZOS said we can have epic battles with 200 players on the screen.
and for a bit we did... then most of the playerbase hit max level and started building min/maxing builds which were focused around AOE spam in a group, which caused complaints about the target limit when they then increased by a factor of 10.
people wanted the cap removed or increased to where it was never going to actually hit so that "a small group has a chance to wipe a bigger group".. those of us who were smart knew that would change nothing and some even knew that the increased target number would only increase the lag..
now we are stuck with Zergblobs that can only be countered by another Blob doing so much potential AOE that just one of these blobs of 24 players, YES JUST 24 IS ENOUGH, is causing server wide lag.
the only way to fix this would be to either fall back on the target cap, or implement dynamic ability cooldowns based on server lag.
we knew it would happen but the QQ on the forums from those without the mental capacity to see it coming was far louder.Edited by Hypertionb14_ESO on June 18, 2015 3:48PMI play every class in every situation. I love them all.4 -
Its like... "DC Zergs" but DC be like "AD ZERGS!" AD be like "EP ZERGS!!!" EP be like "They zerging with more than one zerg!!"
Zergs be like "You Zergs be Zerging"
Zergings be like "YOU ZERGS BE ZERGING ON MY ZERG"
My Zerg be like "STZU you GDMZ! Zerging little zerg, zerg my zerg piece of zerg zerg!"
Next person that says "zerg" gets a gold star for originality.
I'll be starting another thread called "You lag-sploiters and Scripters!"
Anyway, im gonna go work on my macros. Cant let the AD zerg-sploiters-hackers have all the fun. DC - Insult.
Zergs out!
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Pman85✭✭✭✭i can run into the middle of a group 10 times that size and not lag... so what does that tell me?
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Pecivilis✭✭✭
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Raizin✭✭✭✭ZOS said we can have epic battles with 200 players on the screen.
u made me laugh and vomit at the same time, well done sir
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Torquebow✭✭✭I thought the game was about taking keeps with groups of people? I must be mistaken. It's not about winning the campaign, it's about 1v1 MMR I guess? I can't seem to find the ladder for that.
I play this game to take keeps by out maneuvering, and out thinking the enemy faction. If I wanted to 1v1, I'd go duel people outside of goldshire with all the other 1.2k MMR idiots. 1v1'ing has 0 purpose in this game at the moment except epeen or for fun.
Obviously there is a lag issue, these threads are getting silly. Blaming each other for playing the game as its intended. Stop beating a dead horse, and move on unless you have something constructive to say.
Edited by Torquebow on June 18, 2015 5:15PM1 -
Pecivilis✭✭✭You all have it wrong...I have picture evidence of the real cause of lag...it's hardware problems..through bribery I was able to to get an actual picture of teh Cryodiil Server inside ZoS headquarters....
Edited by Pecivilis on June 18, 2015 5:40PM"Soon™ " - ZOS on TESOUSalty PC PlayerPecivilis - vr14 Breton Sorc - Magicka DPSGuild PvE Officer - The Fatal Legion- NA PvP - Chillrend1 -
Astien✭✭✭✭You all have it wrong...I have picture evidence of the real cause of lag...it's hardware problems..through bribery I was able to to get an actual picture of teh Cryodiil Server inside ZoS headquarters....
It used to be this.
But then havoc purge impulse spam fried it down to the mockery you posted.0 -
God_flakes✭✭✭✭✭
✭You all have it wrong...I have picture evidence of the real cause of lag...it's hardware problems..through bribery I was able to to get an actual picture of teh Cryodiil Server inside ZoS headquarters....
It used to be this.
But then havoc purge impulse spam fried it down to the mockery you posted.
Roflmao0
