Zerg solution?

Sausage · June 2015

Go without zone chat, no more zergs, no more one guy telling what to do and the rest follow. Of course one problem arise and thats raid/group-finding, as people cant use zone chat anymore, so how about if they add NCPs in each home base, basically raid/group leaders recruiters, people go there and talk with the NPC and from there, they can join to raid/group.

Soulac · June 2015

Garion · June 2015

I think we are starting to clutch at straws here...

Rylana · June 2015

OP, communication has nothing to do with it.

Think about it this way, nearly everyone that plays in Cyrodiil is a sheep follower that doesnt ever want to be the leader or the guy going first, because they A. Dont want to die, B. Dont want to be responsible

So what actually happens, is one brave soldier steps off that front porch of Nikel. Just going somewhere, a couple of people step off after him, then more, then more. As they arrive at ash and siege, curious onlookers show up, next thing you know theres 30 people there, then 40, as the wall gets saturated with people dying and respawning at roebeck to return to nikel to ride back up to ash

If this massive group is successful, they then stand in the courtyard of the taken keep, probably on the porch, waiting for someone to move (or possibly a small organized group that now formed within this zergball). No one wants to be the leader, no one wants responsibility.

What do we do now?

Some brave soul mounts a horse and jumps off the wall to the north...

and the zerg moves anew

The other variant is an organized guild running around that everyone flocks to and follows because of safety in numbers. These zergballs can get hysterically large, ive seen them 100+ because that core group of 12-20 inside does all of the real work, while the lemmings around them play meatshield and absorb all of the damage. Safety lol.

IXI_WiCKeD_IXI · June 2015

Rylana wrote: »

OP, communication has nothing to do with it.

Think about it this way, nearly everyone that plays in Cyrodiil is a sheep follower that doesnt ever want to be the leader or the guy going first, because they A. Dont want to die, B. Dont want to be responsible

So what actually happens, is one brave soldier steps off that front porch of Nikel. Just going somewhere, a couple of people step off after him, then more, then more. As they arrive at ash and siege, curious onlookers show up, next thing you know theres 30 people there, then 40, as the wall gets saturated with people dying and respawning at roebeck to return to nikel to ride back up to ash

If this massive group is successful, they then stand in the courtyard of the taken keep, probably on the porch, waiting for someone to move (or possibly a small organized group that now formed within this zergball). No one wants to be the leader, no one wants responsibility.

What do we do now?

Some brave soul mounts a horse and jumps off the wall to the north...

and the zerg moves anew

The other variant is an organized guild running around that everyone flocks to and follows because of safety in numbers. These zergballs can get hysterically large, ive seen them 100+ because that core group of 12-20 inside does all of the real work, while the lemmings around them play meatshield and absorb all of the damage. Safety lol.

You get an insightful, funny and awesome from me

IxSTALKERxI · June 2015

I would like to see a much higher diminishing return in AP gain for large groups.

Yonkit · June 2015

I actually have the town crier role for all DC campaigns. I stand in north high rock issuing commands through clever emotes like a baseball coach at third base to the batter. The zerg is mine and I will wield it as I see fit.

Agrippa_Invisus · June 2015

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

I would like to see a much higher diminishing return in AP gain for large groups.

Wish for a pony while you're at it.

ZOS isn't going to penalize the majority of players of the vast (yet vocal) minority's kvetching.

The solution is for ZOS to fix its lag issues, which is what ZOS has admitted is the fix to this.

This continual focus on either an I Win button vs a larger group or some sort of penalty for that larger group is unconstructive and only leads to taking the focus off ZOS's mismanaged server code.

God_flakes · June 2015

Rylana wrote: »

OP, communication has nothing to do with it.

Think about it this way, nearly everyone that plays in Cyrodiil is a sheep follower that doesnt ever want to be the leader or the guy going first, because they A. Dont want to die, B. Dont want to be responsible

So what actually happens, is one brave soldier steps off that front porch of Nikel. Just going somewhere, a couple of people step off after him, then more, then more. As they arrive at ash and siege, curious onlookers show up, next thing you know theres 30 people there, then 40, as the wall gets saturated with people dying and respawning at roebeck to return to nikel to ride back up to ash

If this massive group is successful, they then stand in the courtyard of the taken keep, probably on the porch, waiting for someone to move (or possibly a small organized group that now formed within this zergball). No one wants to be the leader, no one wants responsibility.

What do we do now?

Some brave soul mounts a horse and jumps off the wall to the north...

and the zerg moves anew

The other variant is an organized guild running around that everyone flocks to and follows because of safety in numbers. These zergballs can get hysterically large, ive seen them 100+ because that core group of 12-20 inside does all of the real work, while the lemmings around them play meatshield and absorb all of the damage. Safety lol.

Omg this. Rylana, such a way with words.

As a group leader who is currently recovering from lead burn out...I concur with your assessment. People need to remember this is a game. Grow a pair. Try leading. Sure you're gonna wipe! But the victories make the wipes pale in comparison.

IxSTALKERxI · June 2015

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

I would like to see a much higher diminishing return in AP gain for large groups.

Wish for a pony while you're at it.

ZOS isn't going to penalize the majority of players of the vast (yet vocal) minority's kvetching.

The solution is for ZOS to fix its lag issues, which is what ZOS has admitted is the fix to this.

This continual focus on either an I Win button vs a larger group or some sort of penalty for that larger group is unconstructive and only leads to taking the focus off ZOS's mismanaged server code.

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if a pony appeared in the crown store soon lmao.
I'm not asking for an I win button. I'm asking that people stop getting penalized for not being a part of a 24 man group.

Stikato · June 2015

God_flakes wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

OP, communication has nothing to do with it.

Think about it this way, nearly everyone that plays in Cyrodiil is a sheep follower that doesnt ever want to be the leader or the guy going first, because they A. Dont want to die, B. Dont want to be responsible

So what actually happens, is one brave soldier steps off that front porch of Nikel. Just going somewhere, a couple of people step off after him, then more, then more. As they arrive at ash and siege, curious onlookers show up, next thing you know theres 30 people there, then 40, as the wall gets saturated with people dying and respawning at roebeck to return to nikel to ride back up to ash

If this massive group is successful, they then stand in the courtyard of the taken keep, probably on the porch, waiting for someone to move (or possibly a small organized group that now formed within this zergball). No one wants to be the leader, no one wants responsibility.

What do we do now?

Some brave soul mounts a horse and jumps off the wall to the north...

and the zerg moves anew

The other variant is an organized guild running around that everyone flocks to and follows because of safety in numbers. These zergballs can get hysterically large, ive seen them 100+ because that core group of 12-20 inside does all of the real work, while the lemmings around them play meatshield and absorb all of the damage. Safety lol.

Omg this. Rylana, such a way with words.

As a group leader who is currently recovering from lead burn out...I concur with your assessment. People need to remember this is a game. Grow a pair. Try leading. Sure you're gonna wipe! But the victories make the wipes pale in comparison.

I agree with both of you guys. That being said, when you signed up for ESO did you expect something differnet? That this time, in this MMO, somehow people would march in organized fashion, with everyone contributing equally to the cause, and all making sound decisions in favor of the alliance?

Or that people would say, hey, where is that one guy going, and follow along. At some point you just gotta accept it for what it is, and try to have fun within the system that exists. If you expect it to be something else, or get upset that others act in that way, you're gonna have a bad time

RinaldoGandolphi · June 2015

Rylana wrote: »

OP, communication has nothing to do with it.

Think about it this way, nearly everyone that plays in Cyrodiil is a sheep follower that doesnt ever want to be the leader or the guy going first, because they A. Dont want to die, B. Dont want to be responsible

So what actually happens, is one brave soldier steps off that front porch of Nikel. Just going somewhere, a couple of people step off after him, then more, then more. As they arrive at ash and siege, curious onlookers show up, next thing you know theres 30 people there, then 40, as the wall gets saturated with people dying and respawning at roebeck to return to nikel to ride back up to ash

If this massive group is successful, they then stand in the courtyard of the taken keep, probably on the porch, waiting for someone to move (or possibly a small organized group that now formed within this zergball). No one wants to be the leader, no one wants responsibility.

What do we do now?

Some brave soul mounts a horse and jumps off the wall to the north...

and the zerg moves anew

The other variant is an organized guild running around that everyone flocks to and follows because of safety in numbers. These zergballs can get hysterically large, ive seen them 100+ because that core group of 12-20 inside does all of the real work, while the lemmings around them play meatshield and absorb all of the damage. Safety lol.

Spot on bud! gets an awesome from me