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Patch Notes 2.0.11
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f047ys3v3n✭✭✭✭✭
✭"Grahtwood
Fixed a heavy sack near Elden Root that was respawning faster than intended."
Sounds like it's adventure time!
Lol, I actually remember that sack. It did seem like it came back awful quick. Whenever I screwed up and entered the dungeon on non-vet and had to regroup it was always already back.
Proly should have allocated the time spent on fixing the renegade sack to.... I don't know, opening any players bank or inventory just to test and see if the whole game insta-crashed before rolling out the patch. I mean, I know testing to find bugs can be hard but I found that one within 4 min of logging into the game post update. It wasn't exactly stealthy.I am currently worried for the future of ESO. Population seems like it is in free fall and the cancellation of the North America in-person gathering feels very much like pulling the plug. Kudos on fixing the in-game economy though. Clearly whatever gold shenanigans were happening the last couple years are fixed.0 -
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✭Can't even open my inventory without crashing (yes there is a recipe in there).
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✭✭coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »Can't even open my inventory without crashing (yes there is a recipe in there).
So bad.
Same here. It's extremely annoying and near game breaking. The only thing I can really do right now is fish... though I am unable to harvest said fish due to recipes in my inventory.Far too many characters to list any more.1 -
Faugaun✭✭✭✭✭coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »Can't even open my inventory without crashing (yes there is a recipe in there).
So bad.
Same here. It's extremely annoying and near game breaking. The only thing I can really do right now is fish... though I am unable to harvest said fish due to recipes in my inventory.
you could grind as long as you do not intend to loot the enemies or repair your armor...but even fishing or grinding may be pointless if they are going to rollback the servers once it is fixed
@ZOS_GinaBruno can you at least tell us if there will be a roll back and if we are wasting our time fishing/grinding?Edited by Faugaun on June 16, 2015 1:25AMMy new startup social network for Theorycrafting
Champion Point Calculators
Sharable samples:
http://asolutionaday.com/test/Warrior.htm?ba=5&bl=&e=12&ha=10&he=&l=&m=&n=5&q=20&r=15&s=15&t=18
http://asolutionaday.com/test/Thief.htm?a=5&b=22&d=2&e=18&h=8&ma=0&mo=5&sh=9&sp=19&te=12&tu=13&w=1
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✭coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »Can't even open my inventory without crashing (yes there is a recipe in there).
So bad.
Same here. It's extremely annoying and near game breaking. The only thing I can really do right now is fish... though I am unable to harvest said fish due to recipes in my inventory.
you could grind as long as you do not intend to loot the enemies or repair your armor...but even fishing or grinding may be pointless if they are going to rollback the servers once it is fixed
@ZOS_GinaBruno can you at least tell us if there will be a roll back and if we are wasting our time fishing/grinding?
This is a good point. I'm done logging in for the night. Makes no sense to and it's increasingly frustrating. Going to go back to Path Of Exile for a bit. Been apart of too many ZOS screw ups to count. This is one of the more glaring examples of ineptitude I've seen yet. Garbage.4 -
AssaultLemming✭✭✭✭The simple answer here is that these potions need to provide diminishing rewards. Under 360 champ points for example 100% effectiveness, 360 to 720 75%, etc etc. Pulled numbers from thin air, but on the whole the are useful to have for new players to catch up, but shouldn't be a way for people to grind endless champ points and increase the gap even further.2
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✭✭✭SorataArisugawa wrote: »
So you are wasting 2 hours to get mats (without gaining any CP) in order to gain +50% XP for 3.33 hours?
2 hours was the time I estimated for farming everything (don't know how much the new fhing mat drops). If you buy it from other players you will be much faster;) The time of farm could be even less.goblins=2CP/h
3.33h=6-7CP+50%=9-10.5CPs
What if I don't farm mats at all?
5.33h=10-11CP
What if I don't farm mats at all, but instead go purchase boosters from Cash Shop instead?
5.33h=10-11CP+50%=15-16CPs
So why again, should I go waste time gathering the mats? This is very basic maths.
You will grind to a lot of gold in this way. So buy the drink from the peoble who don't want to competed with your race anyway. Very easy. And you don't have to use real money because the price will not be that high:)While on the topic of maths, how about you go check how much of an advantage those CPs continue to grant you, especially when the gap between players grows increasingly wide? Even the difference between 200 and 300 CPs is around 20-30% DPS (and even more in terms of burst dmg thanks to passives such as Exploiter from Ritual).
Lets try it again for you. You will never be in the position that you have to compete with someone who has 300points and you have 200 points, because you are a "competetive" player and you already play the CP race as every other "competetive" player. So you will be start at a very close point to all of your "friends". And then you and your "friends" start to use the potions as much as you can. And it will be no problem because you have tons of money and even make more everyday. I assume you will even get so much money, that there is always a plus for you even with 24/7 potion ratio. And now tell me again where you get a difference of 50% of your CP value (200 to 300 points) to an other player who plays it your stile! That will never occur. It will only occur, if you do a break. But in this case, you would be fall behind even without drinks.SorataArisugawa wrote: »But back to your theory: no P2W. You could do all the content without CP and in terms of comparableness: Higher skill is more rewarding then higher CP at least after 200+ CP and then in a wide area. The next think is you compare 1 person who will never use the new drink with one who uses it all the time. This is at least hazardous. People like your kind allways play the game like people your kind plays the game. The do their "best" to get as far and fast as possible. So they will use this drink as much as they can. So the real difference will be: person A uses the drink like 85% of time, person B like 89% of the time. So now how will this be a problem with decreasing percentages of the CP bonuses? Do you at least admit, that you overreact a little bit?
This is their decision. And by the way: This has nothing to do with the subject of the discussion...You can do all content without CP yes, but what does that tell us? The content is ridiculously easy when you have 300+ CPs (as people in top leaderboard guilds do), which in turn leads to end game focused people quitting the game.
Will be rough you are right, but then again this has nothing to do with the discussion...Not a good thing, at all. And frankly, I have no idea how end game content could ever be balanced with Champion System in game.
I showed to you why this is not the case.And yes, "people of my kind" do play the game competitively, to win. So it shouldn't come to surprise to you if someone might think it undermines the competitive aspect of the game entirely if your "winning" is dependent on your wallet, rather than your skills as a player.People who do not play competitively naturally do not care about P2W, because whether they win or not is insignificant and thus I do not think you will be able to comprehend this.
I win on different areas. I do care about pay to win. I would not play the game if it would be pay to win. But it isn't. Not in your case, not in mine. Get over it.
So you have a couple of million in game gold ready to spend on XP boosters?
Good for you. I also have millions in game, so I will likely never have to spend a dime on these boosters personally.
But can you say that for everyone who plays this game? A good 60-70% (rough estimate) of the people I know have barely 100k to their name, and will never be able to afford keeping XP boost up. Not without paying $$$.
i mean it's not hard to make 100k a week .... just saying
No, but then again it's not hard to beat Sanctum Ophidia but most people haven't, either, or vet DSA. Or PVP and earn enough AP to make 100k gold in a week. Yet again, virtually no one does. In fact, I think last campaign reset I saw there were a grand total of 30-40 people who did in a full 14 day campaign leaderboard... out of thousands. You can't compare whether something is feasible for 99% of players off those of us in the top tenth of one percent or better
. Edited by Attorneyatlawl on June 16, 2015 2:03AM-First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
Exploits suck. Don't blame just the game, blame the players abusing them!
-Playing since July 2013, back when we had a killspam channel in Cyrodiil and the lands of Tamriel were roamed by dinosaurs.
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Faugaun✭✭✭✭✭Attorneyatlawl wrote: »SorataArisugawa wrote: »
So you are wasting 2 hours to get mats (without gaining any CP) in order to gain +50% XP for 3.33 hours?
2 hours was the time I estimated for farming everything (don't know how much the new fhing mat drops). If you buy it from other players you will be much faster;) The time of farm could be even less.goblins=2CP/h
3.33h=6-7CP+50%=9-10.5CPs
What if I don't farm mats at all?
5.33h=10-11CP
What if I don't farm mats at all, but instead go purchase boosters from Cash Shop instead?
5.33h=10-11CP+50%=15-16CPs
So why again, should I go waste time gathering the mats? This is very basic maths.
You will grind to a lot of gold in this way. So buy the drink from the peoble who don't want to competed with your race anyway. Very easy. And you don't have to use real money because the price will not be that high:)While on the topic of maths, how about you go check how much of an advantage those CPs continue to grant you, especially when the gap between players grows increasingly wide? Even the difference between 200 and 300 CPs is around 20-30% DPS (and even more in terms of burst dmg thanks to passives such as Exploiter from Ritual).
Lets try it again for you. You will never be in the position that you have to compete with someone who has 300points and you have 200 points, because you are a "competetive" player and you already play the CP race as every other "competetive" player. So you will be start at a very close point to all of your "friends". And then you and your "friends" start to use the potions as much as you can. And it will be no problem because you have tons of money and even make more everyday. I assume you will even get so much money, that there is always a plus for you even with 24/7 potion ratio. And now tell me again where you get a difference of 50% of your CP value (200 to 300 points) to an other player who plays it your stile! That will never occur. It will only occur, if you do a break. But in this case, you would be fall behind even without drinks.SorataArisugawa wrote: »But back to your theory: no P2W. You could do all the content without CP and in terms of comparableness: Higher skill is more rewarding then higher CP at least after 200+ CP and then in a wide area. The next think is you compare 1 person who will never use the new drink with one who uses it all the time. This is at least hazardous. People like your kind allways play the game like people your kind plays the game. The do their "best" to get as far and fast as possible. So they will use this drink as much as they can. So the real difference will be: person A uses the drink like 85% of time, person B like 89% of the time. So now how will this be a problem with decreasing percentages of the CP bonuses? Do you at least admit, that you overreact a little bit?
This is their decision. And by the way: This has nothing to do with the subject of the discussion...You can do all content without CP yes, but what does that tell us? The content is ridiculously easy when you have 300+ CPs (as people in top leaderboard guilds do), which in turn leads to end game focused people quitting the game.
Will be rough you are right, but then again this has nothing to do with the discussion...Not a good thing, at all. And frankly, I have no idea how end game content could ever be balanced with Champion System in game.
I showed to you why this is not the case.And yes, "people of my kind" do play the game competitively, to win. So it shouldn't come to surprise to you if someone might think it undermines the competitive aspect of the game entirely if your "winning" is dependent on your wallet, rather than your skills as a player.People who do not play competitively naturally do not care about P2W, because whether they win or not is insignificant and thus I do not think you will be able to comprehend this.
I win on different areas. I do care about pay to win. I would not play the game if it would be pay to win. But it isn't. Not in your case, not in mine. Get over it.
So you have a couple of million in game gold ready to spend on XP boosters?
Good for you. I also have millions in game, so I will likely never have to spend a dime on these boosters personally.
But can you say that for everyone who plays this game? A good 60-70% (rough estimate) of the people I know have barely 100k to their name, and will never be able to afford keeping XP boost up. Not without paying $$$.
i mean it's not hard to make 100k a week .... just saying
No, but then again it's not hard to beat Sanctum Ophidia but most people haven't, either, or vet DSA. Or PVP and earn enough AP to make 100k gold in a week. Yet again, virtually no one does. In fact, I think last campaign reset I saw there were a grand total of 30-40 people who did in a full 14 day campaign leaderboard... out of thousands.
Correlation is not causation, an alternate hypothesis is that there are few reasons to need money so perhaps many people don't focus on earning money. Perhaps exp booster potions will create that greater demand.My new startup social network for Theorycrafting
Champion Point Calculators
Sharable samples:
http://asolutionaday.com/test/Warrior.htm?ba=5&bl=&e=12&ha=10&he=&l=&m=&n=5&q=20&r=15&s=15&t=18
http://asolutionaday.com/test/Thief.htm?a=5&b=22&d=2&e=18&h=8&ma=0&mo=5&sh=9&sp=19&te=12&tu=13&w=1
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SpAEkus✭✭✭✭Banner up for EU patch 2.11. So they are gonna push it to EU before they give NA a fix for it?2
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arena25✭✭✭✭✭Banner up for EU patch 2.11. So they are gonna push it to EU before they give NA a fix for it?
Already got a thread running about it, mate...
Hop over here, mates...
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/180180/worst-nightmare-realized#latestIf you can't handle the heat...stay out of the kitchen!0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Banner up for EU patch 2.11. So they are gonna push it to EU before they give NA a fix for it?
EU can test it for NA.
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✭✭Of course they're going to patch it to EU, we wouldn't want to deprive them of all the fun the US players are having with the recipe failure. Cheese for everyone"We have found a cave, but I don't think there are warm fires and friendly faces inside."1 -
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Just wanted to say thanks. Gina contacted me directly, and we verified that the hotfix also was able to restore whatever was causing my entire inventory to go AWOL. =D
Not enough words in the English language to express how happy I am right now.4 -
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Just wanted to say thanks. Gina contacted me directly, and we verified that the hotfix also was able to restore whatever was causing my entire inventory to go AWOL. =D
Not enough words in the English language to express how happy I am right now.
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Greymoor 6.0.7 PvP : Medium 2H/SnB The Destroyer
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Just wanted to say thanks. Gina contacted me directly, and we verified that the hotfix also was able to restore whatever was causing my entire inventory to go AWOL. =D
Not enough words in the English language to express how happy I am right now.
If it wasn't for Gina, my faith in the game would be lost. I know she is a moderator and not a dev, but she gets it. I think she may be the hardest working person there.1 -
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Yeah, I seriously just want to like... buy coffee and donuts for the entire team down there. I was pretty freakin' devastated this morning, and the entire day was like... just blegh. I know it's just virtual goods, but all the time and effort to get them...coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »If it wasn't for Gina, my faith in the game would be lost. I know she is a moderator and not a dev, but she gets it. I think she may be the hardest working person there.
That said, yeah, I'm happy as a clam right now.
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