Removing Templar Class

BloodWolfe · June 2015

pecheckler wrote: »

VR10 templar here. At console launch I created a nightblade, got to 22, then dragon knight and now 19. Templar seems more effective than both.

I started a DK and got to 37 then re-rolled a Templar and LOVE it! My DK was fun, and I will likely work on him in the future but I'm loving my 2h/1h+S Templar. I know they say not to go hybrid but I'm enjoying hybrid, at least for levelling it is working out well so far.

bertenburnyb16_ESO wrote: »

dont u be touching my argonian templar
not everybody is playing to be super l33t min maxer scoreborard masta

Yep! I don't like playing to be a min/maxer either, I play to enjoy the game my way and love my Nord Templar as mentioned above hehe. My DK is an Argonian though, love the Nords and Argonians in the TES series.

Decimus_Rex · June 2015

Sharakor wrote: »

Psychobunni wrote: »

My templar healer disagrees with you, as does my dw/bow stam templar...my husband's templar tank would disagree as well, he has a DK and likes templar better.....so No, templar does not need removed. Fixes? yes, welcome to the Elder Bugged Online....but broken skills doesn't mean throw out the baby, yada yada

I'm talking about PvP, not lousy RPG. And even in PvE using a 5 piece light armor set (since ZOS forced templars not to use full light armor sets anymore) has proven to be fatal, in PvP heh... VR2's can one hit V14 light armor templars.

That's any class in PvP

Vet 1 through 8 is pretty garbage in PvP

You want real PvP that's not one hit killed ?

Roll a new toon stay in NoNvet and level it through PvP only.

The best fun I've ever had with this very unstable game

Drasn · June 2015

eliisra wrote: »

You're actually saying that all classes are equally affected by wearing light, when templars have 0 mobility and 0 escapes. Do you even PvP?

What I implied was that the light armor nerf was just that, a light armor nerf, it was not a templar nerf. Templars have the same amount of mobility and escapes now that they had prior to the light armor nerf.

eliisra wrote: »

Light armor sorcerer with a 13-15k dmg absorbing shield, 40% speed buff + armor and Bolt Escape has about 100% more survivability than a light armor templar, for example. You're typing random stuff, without looking at facts. It's misleading for new players. Things like class skills and passives matters, it makes a difference when it comes to what build you can rock in PvP.

Things like passives and skills matter? Do you really believe that? Or do you want all classes to be carbon copies of each other? You can't play a templar the same way you play a sorcerer, it's really that simple. Different class means different play style.

But let's look at those skills you listed vs what a templar can do:

13k-15k damage shield for the sorc if they stack 40k+ magicka, which means they are a little light in the HP department.

Templars damage shield is based off of HP and can get in the 10k-12k range without overstacking HP, and simply having it slotted gives the templar a 10% crit damage boost to all abilities.
40% speed boost + armor.

Let me tell you about channeled focus, it's a free cast armor + spell resist buff that also shoots your magicka regen to stupid levels. Not to mention templars have a passive spell resist and extra mitigation while blocking built in to the class.

The 40% speed buff can be gained easily elsewhere (potions, rapid maneuver, mist form, etc.)
Bolt escape... okay so templars( along with every other class ) have nothing comparable. But it's easy enough to toppling charge/shield charge/crit rush/ambush/and sometimes chains those silly streakers to death if that's your style.

Like I said above, it's all about play style. A templar can not play as a sorc and expect to be as successful as that sorc. You sound like a grass is always greener type of person. What you need to do is realize that there is supposed to be diversity, that is why there are multiple classes.

As a side note, if survivability is the key issues surrounding why the OP thinks the templar is bad take a look at wearing sets like Storm Knight and Elf bane for magicka DPS. Both are completely viable for PVP, the only thing you will really miss from light armor is the spell penetration so you would have to make up for that somewhere.

tplink3r1 · June 2015

thomas.k.grayb14_ESO wrote: »

Sharakor wrote: »

Should ZOS completely remove the templar class? I think this would save customers from the pain of realizing that the class is complete garbage when they finally reach VR levels. Its clear by now that they don't want to work on fixing it for some reason, so why keep this useless class in the game?

Top DPS in the game if built accordingly.

Best healer in the game.

2nd Best tank in the game. (Stupid Chains)

Sure, lets get rid of the class.

Sharakor wrote: »

Psychobunni wrote: »

My templar healer disagrees with you, as does my dw/bow stam templar...my husband's templar tank would disagree as well, he has a DK and likes templar better.....so No, templar does not need removed. Fixes? yes, welcome to the Elder Bugged Online....but broken skills doesn't mean throw out the baby, yada yada

I'm talking about PvP, not lousy RPG. And even in PvE using a 5 piece light armor set (since ZOS forced templars not to use full light armor sets anymore) has proven to be fatal, in PvP heh... VR2's can one hit V14 light armor templars.

Light armor affects all classes equally in terms survivability. Being a templar in light armor is no different than being one of the other classes in light armor.

Sharakor wrote: »

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Sharakor wrote: »

Should ZOS completely remove the templar class? I think this would save customers from the pain of realizing that the class is complete garbage when they finally reach VR levels. Its clear by now that they don't want to work on fixing it for some reason, so why keep this useless class in the game?

Hate to be one of those guys but you clearly need to learn how to play the class.

Top healer
Has the ability to pump out serious dps
A very effective tank

Again, light armor, magicka based templars using with restoration or even destruction staff can't get more than 6k DPS.

I'm pretty sure this has to do with you and not the class. I can pull twice that in healing gear... while healing.

I don't agree with the OP, but thats not true.

King Bozo · June 2015

No problem here with templar healing vdsa and pvp. Templar can also do really well as tank and Stam build.

nimander99 · June 2015

Sharakor wrote: »

Should ZOS completely remove the templar class? I think this would save customers from the pain of realizing that the class is complete garbage when they finally reach VR levels. Its clear by now that they don't want to work on fixing it for some reason, so why keep this useless class in the game?

Dude you are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off my bra! I solo Craglorn group dungeons with my Templar... its called block and dodge roll, learn to use em or die.

DrOs666 · June 2015

i suck at it , so we should just remove this thing !

nimander99 · June 2015

DrOs666 wrote: »

i suck at it , so we should just remove this thing !

Read a watch a bunch of @Deltia 's videos about playing a Templar's strong builds, when I did that is when I really started to play this game

edit: do a google search for Deltia's Gaming and yer half way there!

Mr_Nobody · June 2015

No!

~ Templar is a challenge to play, and when i 1vX others I imagine the mental pain they feel when they respawn after getting ownt by a solo templar ~

Woolenthreads · June 2015

Psychobunni wrote: »

Sharakor wrote: »

Psychobunni wrote: »

My templar healer disagrees with you, as does my dw/bow stam templar...my husband's templar tank would disagree as well, he has a DK and likes templar better.....so No, templar does not need removed. Fixes? yes, welcome to the Elder Bugged Online....but broken skills doesn't mean throw out the baby, yada yada

I'm talking about PvP, not lousy RPG.

Well that "lousy" RPG is 90% of the game, sorry for your bad luck

I miss "LOL"