Dear ZOS, feel the angry glares of Master Anglers...

Tavore1138 · June 2015

So we slogged through the times the achievements were impossible, we slogged through waterlogged regions devoid of fishing holes, we searched for that single spot of foul water, we repeatedly killed the World Boss in Reaper's March so we could get to it, we burnt over 9,000 bait searching for that 12th fish in at least one region and we shivered nervously near the yellow gate where some 'bright spark' put the only ocean in Cyrodiil... and we survived... we got the coveted title and the nauseating colour...

We were done, we hung up our rods and gave away our bait...

And now... AND NOW... you drop in a recipe which requires me not only to fish again but is inevitably going to have a terrible refine rate so you can maximise crown shop purchases!

At least have the decency to allow us to 'refine' more than one fish at a time!!!

I feel I can speak for at least one angry Master Angler when I say... arrrgggHHHH!

ashlee17 · June 2015

lol - my deepest sympathies to you all! If you are fishing for a bonus, i hope you catch one!

Leggi · June 2015

I feel so lucky I've saved 4k of fish, had 9k when got MR Angler ach-nt.
But I won't do a single fish catch anymore.
Nope.

Thank you ZOS for punishing players.
What's next? Make trophey collecting more useful?

Yakidafi · June 2015

Time to start fishing again, got all in dominion, need other zones still /troll.

two flies in one punch.

Exstazik · June 2015

Leggi wrote: »

I feel so lucky I've saved 4k of fish, had 9k when got MR Angler ach-nt.
But I won't do a single fish catch anymore.
Nope.

Thank you ZOS for punishing players.
What's next? Make trophey collecting more useful?

Hope you can get ROE only from fish which will be catched after patche .BOO!

Tavore1138 · June 2015

Leggi wrote: »

I feel so lucky I've saved 4k of fish, had 9k when got MR Angler ach-nt.
But I won't do a single fish catch anymore.
Nope.

Thank you ZOS for punishing players.
What's next? Make trophey collecting more useful?

And all costumes from non-repeatable quests will now give you huge stat boosts?

Nestor · June 2015

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

And now... AND NOW... you drop in a recipe which requires me not only to fish again .....

At least this time around you can fish in the nicer places......

Merlin13KAGL · June 2015

Leggi wrote: »

I feel so lucky I've saved 4k of fish, had 9k when got MR Angler ach-nt.
But I won't do a single fish catch anymore.
Nope.

Thank you ZOS for punishing players.
What's next? Make trophey collecting more useful?

@Leggi , you saved 4000 fish?

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · June 2015

You guys know roe isnt a fish right? roe is fish eggs not a fish. also you dont have to fish to get it. Comes from provisioning writs and hirelings.

Yakidafi · June 2015

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

You guys know roe isnt a fish right? roe is fish eggs not a fish. also you dont have to fish to get it. Comes from provisioning writs and hirelings.

Perfect Roe can be found by fishing. Every time you skin a non-trophy fish, you obtain fish meat. However, you will now also have a small chance to obtain Perfect Roe.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/179679/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-0-11#latest

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · June 2015

Yakidafi wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

You guys know roe isnt a fish right? roe is fish eggs not a fish. also you dont have to fish to get it. Comes from provisioning writs and hirelings.

Perfect Roe can be found by fishing. Every time you skin a non-trophy fish, you obtain fish meat. However, you will now also have a small chance to obtain Perfect Roe.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/179679/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-0-11#latest

I didnt say it cant be found by fishing. I said it isnt a fish and there are other ways of getting it besides fishing.

Yakidafi · June 2015

Not according to the patch notes.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · June 2015

Yakidafi wrote: »

Not according to the patch notes.

It VERY clearly says you get them from provisioning hirelings and writs. In fact thats the ONLY way to get the recipe fragments besides buying them from another player.

Casdha · June 2015

Sounds like Master Crafter and crafting writs to me

Not surprising they did it again, At least I haven't done any fishing per say,,,, yet

Epona222 · June 2015

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Yakidafi wrote: »

Not according to the patch notes.

It VERY clearly says you get them from provisioning hirelings and writs. In fact thats the ONLY way to get the recipe fragments besides buying them from another player.

RECIPE FRAGMENTS - yes, you are correct.

ROE comes from fish.

Yakidafi · June 2015

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Yakidafi wrote: »

Not according to the patch notes.

It VERY clearly says you get them from provisioning hirelings and writs. In fact thats the ONLY way to get the recipe fragments besides buying them from another player.

does it not say that frost mirriam and bervez juice can be found from writs? and I did not say anything about the recipe pieces.

Epona222 · June 2015

Yakidafi wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Yakidafi wrote: »

Not according to the patch notes.

It VERY clearly says you get them from provisioning hirelings and writs. In fact thats the ONLY way to get the recipe fragments besides buying them from another player.

does it not say that frost mirriam and bervez juice can be found from writs? and I did not say anything about the recipe pieces.

That is correct, frost mirriam and bervez juice can only come from writs and hirelings... it has always been thus.

(Edited for spelling!)

Cously · June 2015

http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info958-VotansFishFillet.html

Xendyn · June 2015

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Yakidafi wrote: »

Not according to the patch notes.

It VERY clearly says you get them from provisioning hirelings and writs. In fact thats the ONLY way to get the recipe fragments besides buying them from another player.

You get the recipe fragments from writs, yes.

The Perfect Roe ingredient comes from fishing.

You guys are just miscommunicating a bit

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · June 2015

Well when I get one in my provisioning writ Ill post you a photo. All these kinds of items can be found in provisioning writs. Just like the recipe fragments. Or recipes for other stuff. Or are you saying you have never gotten a gold mat from a writ?

Merlin13KAGL · June 2015

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

You guys know roe isnt a fish right? roe is fish eggs not a fish. also you dont have to fish to get it. Comes from provisioning writs and hirelings.

@jamesharv2005ub17_ESO, @Yakidafi has it right.

The only way to get Roe is from fishing. It's a rare ingredient and will not be found laying about in a container. (Just as the other two rare ingredients only come from writs/hirleings)

Since there are no fishing hirelings, you're either casting for it, or you're paying someone else to.

Leggi · June 2015

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

And all costumes from non-repeatable quests will now give you huge stat boosts?

That would be really great!
ZOS should definetly do it.
And they have to offer to account 1000 crowns just for creating 2nd toon.
Or finishing Cadwell's Gold for the first time.

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

@Leggi , you saved 4000 fish?

Yep. I have 8 toons to play, so 20 inv spaces is not that much.
What makes me angry - is 6k+ fishes I've just sold out.

Epona222 · June 2015

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Well when I get one in my provisioning writ Ill post you a photo. All these kinds of items can be found in provisioning writs. Just like the recipe fragments. Or recipes for other stuff. Or are you saying you have never gotten a gold mat from a writ?

Even if it was available from writs and hirelings, who would sit and wait for one to show up for weeks if they can go out fishing for it instead?

Epona222 · June 2015

Here is the quote from the patch notes, read it carefully when you get to the paragraph about ingredients. It is quite clear that roe comes from filleting fish.

Psijic Ambrosia has three ingredients required to make it: Frost Mirriam, Bervez Juice, and Perfect Roe. Frost Mirriam and Bervez Juice are both existing ingredients used in a variety of high-end purple foods and drinks; they can only be found by completing Provisioner Writs or by receiving them from your Hireling. Perfect Roe is brand-new, however, and (at least for the moment) used only in the crafting of Psijic Ambrosia.
Perfect Roe can be found by fishing. Every time you skin a non-trophy fish, you obtain fish meat. However, you will now also have a small chance to obtain Perfect Roe.

Merlin13KAGL · June 2015

@Epona222 , he's not grasping that this particular recipe, and the one key ingredient it requires is rather exceptional.

But I'll be waiting for that screenshot.

UrQuan · June 2015

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Well when I get one in my provisioning writ Ill post you a photo. All these kinds of items can be found in provisioning writs. Just like the recipe fragments. Or recipes for other stuff. Or are you saying you have never gotten a gold mat from a writ?

Assuming that a brand new type of item that has never been in the game before (and that we already know can be found in a fashion that no item in the game has been found before) can be obtained in the same way as other items when there's absolutely no evidence of that... Well, you're just assuming that for no reason. The patch notes give absolutely no indication that perfect roe will ever come from a hireling or writ. The only method they mention of obtaining perfect roe is a small chance when filleting a fish. In fact, given that they specifically mention the other items for the recipe as being obtainable from provisioning writs, and given that they don't say that perfect roe is obtainable in that manner, it's highly unlikely that you can get it from writs.

Germal · June 2015

Wow, their is actual grind in a MMORPG, how unusual for a MMORPG,things need to get adressed in this MMORPG,so all can have everything at an insane time rate like in a singleplayer RPG. But wait isnt this a MMORPG ? and the PC master race complains over the console threads about real issues ? Now its time the heavens start to fall^^

Drelkag · June 2015

Love how they made fishing semi-relevant.

Great choice IMO.

Epona222 · June 2015

Germal wrote: »

Wow, their is actual grind in a MMORPG, how unusual for a MMORPG,things need to get adressed in this MMORPG,so all can have everything at an insane time rate like in a singleplayer RPG. But wait isnt this a MMORPG ? and the PC master race complains over the console threads about real issues ? Now its time the heavens start to fall^^

What? Dude, relax....

Elijah_Crow · June 2015

Great addition all around!

Fruitmass · June 2015

Germal wrote: »

Wow, their is actual grind in a MMORPG, how unusual for a MMORPG,things need to get adressed in this MMORPG,so all can have everything at an insane time rate like in a singleplayer RPG. But wait isnt this a MMORPG ? and the PC master race complains over the console threads about real issues ? Now its time the heavens start to fall^^

Under most circumstances I'd agree with you. However fishing in ESO isn't really a grind, it's outright abuse, lol.