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Pay2win! Now its going live. 50%XP boosters work for Championspoints!
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THANK YOU! I can't see why people don't understand this. I see people making so many "P2W" posts and the closest thing to P2W in this game is Imperial, and perhaps not even then.
Because the people making these p2w posts have never played a REAL p2w game before, thats why.
Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
Disable abilities while holding block.
Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.2 -
blabafat✭✭✭✭✭
✭Don't see any xp pots in crown store
Fire Cloak - VR12 DK - Nord - EP
Ámeer - VR15 Templar - Imperial - AD
The Mágician - VR16 Templar - Imperial DC
Magíc - VR16 DK - Dark Elf - DC
Àmeer - VR16 Templar - High Elf - DC
ámeer - VR16 Templar - High Elf - AD
Æ ámeer - VR16 Templar - High Elf - EP
Ameer Flow - Level 34 Nightblade - High Elf - EP
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RedTalon✭✭✭✭✭
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THANK YOU! I can't see why people don't understand this. I see people making so many "P2W" posts and the closest thing to P2W in this game is Imperial, and perhaps not even then.
Because the people making these p2w posts have never played a REAL p2w game before, thats why.
True they have yet to add buyable keys for chest drops that you can't open without, have yet to add the best armor and arms to a crown store and so on not to mention high level area boom pay wall0 -
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✭Non-Subs don't "need" the experience boosters to keep up with sub progression, you can't buy mods for your weaponry to improve their stats, and no one has locked non-subs out of any races previously available at launch.0 -
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✭✭✭The pots will be in the store. They have already announced this. 1000 crowns for 5.0 -
GloryClass Representative
THANK YOU! I can't see why people don't understand this. I see people making so many "P2W" posts and the closest thing to P2W in this game is Imperial, and perhaps not even then.
Because the people making these p2w posts have never played a REAL p2w game before, thats why.
This is how they all start. First costumes and convenience, then XP boosters alongside "craftable" ones that are ridiculously expensive to make. Soon you'll be buying crowns to use transitus or levitate.mDK will rise again.
Rebuild Necromancer pet AI.
@Glorious since I have too many characters to list
Ádamant
Strongly against Faction Lock3 -
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"Hey guys ! we have made a weapon that give you the ability to OS everyone ! you can drop it on mob with 0.000000000000000000000000000000000001% , or kill one billons of them, or buy it in the store! But it's not P2W !"Edited by Hexyl on June 15, 2015 3:30PM3 -
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✭✭✭The Crown Experience Scroll, as the name implies, comes from the Crown Store and can be purchased for 1,000 crowns for a pack of 5. A single Crown Experience Scroll lasts for 2 hours, and gives you a 50% boost to Experience gained from any and all sources – any time your Experience Point bar moves, it will move 50% further.0 -
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✭So how long till we see real armor sets in the crown store do people figure anyhow or would they more try to go for random packages cause if people honestly think they are going that way that is the next set0 -
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✭ebethke_ESO wrote: »
THANK YOU! I can't see why people don't understand this. I see people making so many "P2W" posts and the closest thing to P2W in this game is Imperial, and perhaps not even then.
Because the people making these p2w posts have never played a REAL p2w game before, thats why.
This is how they all start. First costumes and convenience, then XP boosters alongside "craftable" ones that are ridiculously expensive to make. Soon you'll be buying crowns to use transitus or levitate.
Expensive my foot, do you know how easy it is to make gold in this game? Let people charge stupid prices, it's not that hard to get that much gold.0 -
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✭✭✭that's not the point. the point is that they can reach it, so it's not pay 2 win
"Hey guys ! we have made a weapon that give you the ability to OS everyone ! you can drop it on mob with 0.000000000000000000000000000000000001% , or kill one billons of them, or buy it in the store! But it's not P2W !"[/quote]
You'd be right, that's not pay to win.Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
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✭✭✭Pay to win means you HAVE to pay for it with real life cash (not gold) and is available no other way. Anything else is just people claiming its something it is not. XP pots are in pretty much every mmo out there. I dont understand people freaking out about it.1 -
Azalin76✭✭✭I don't see how an xp booster is considered pay 2 win, all it does is help people level faster. What am I winning by reaching VR14 faster than someone else?0 -
GloryClass Representativethat's not the point. the point is that they can reach it, so it's not pay 2 win
"Hey guys ! we have made a weapon that give you the ability to OS everyone ! you can drop it on mob with 0.000000000000000000000000000000000001% , or kill one billons of them, or buy it in the store! But it's not P2W !"
You'd be right, that's not pay to win.[/quote]
Reasonable people define P2W as having distinct advantages via real money when there is no reasonably available in game method. By your arguing that the above case you have proven that you are not a reasonable person, and I am happy to disregard your arguments as trolling.mDK will rise again.
Rebuild Necromancer pet AI.
@Glorious since I have too many characters to list
Ádamant
Strongly against Faction Lock0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭If we don't argue the false logic of this post it will just fall off the front page. Since we can craft the potion, and active crafters will get the recipie, it's not P2W. Lolz0 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭ebethke_ESO wrote: »that's not the point. the point is that they can reach it, so it's not pay 2 win
"Hey guys ! we have made a weapon that give you the ability to OS everyone ! you can drop it on mob with 0.000000000000000000000000000000000001% , or kill one billons of them, or buy it in the store! But it's not P2W !"
You'd be right, that's not pay to win.
Reasonable people define P2W as having distinct advantages via real money when there is no reasonably available in game method. By your arguing that the above case you have proven that you are not a reasonable person, and I am happy to disregard your arguments as trolling.[/quote]
Whatever you like, friend. If it's available in the game, it's not P2W, however small the chance. Pay 2 Win would be if no one ever had a chance to get this item, so it 100% had to be bought in a store. This is not the case, and the numbers here are greatly exaggerated anyways so that entire statement is invalid.
EDIT: It seems quotes on the forums are off a bit.Edited by Valrien on June 15, 2015 3:38PMValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
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✭jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Pay to win means you HAVE to pay for it with real life cash (not gold) and is available no other way. Anything else is just people claiming its something it is not. XP pots are in pretty much every mmo out there. I dont understand people freaking out about it.
@jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
Weird, xp boosts don't raise your power beyond max level in DC Universe Online (f2p) and they don't sell gear in their cash shop. Also I'm curious to see what the average farm time is to find a recipe scrap out of the seven and then farm the rare ingredients. How many writs can you do per day or is it unlimited?
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✭✭✭ebethke_ESO wrote: »that's not the point. the point is that they can reach it, so it's not pay 2 win
"Hey guys ! we have made a weapon that give you the ability to OS everyone ! you can drop it on mob with 0.000000000000000000000000000000000001% , or kill one billons of them, or buy it in the store! But it's not P2W !"
You'd be right, that's not pay to win.
Reasonable people define P2W as having distinct advantages via real money when there is no reasonably available in game method. By your arguing that the above case you have proven that you are not a reasonable person, and I am happy to disregard your arguments as trolling.
Whatever you like, friend. If it's available in the game, it's not P2W, however small the chance. Pay 2 Win would be if no one ever had a chance to get this item, so it 100% had to be bought in a store. This is not the case, and the numbers here are greatly exaggerated anyways so that entire statement is invalid.
EDIT: It seems quotes on the forums are off a bit.[/quote]
Edit: sorry wrong person I responded to.Edited by jamesharv2005ub17_ESO on June 15, 2015 3:47PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭This is specifically not p2w, because 1) It will be available to everybody to craft without spending any money; and 2) Nobody who uses this booster is going to win anything.
A V14 who gets there fast by using xp boosters isn't more powerful than a v14 that got there by grinding, and isn't more powerful than a v14 that slowly did every quest in the game, and isn't more powerful than a v14 who took forever to get there leveling in pvp. There's no advantage.Edited by Reverb on June 15, 2015 3:46PMBattle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche1 -
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THANK YOU! I can't see why people don't understand this. I see people making so many "P2W" posts and the closest thing to P2W in this game is Imperial, and perhaps not even then.
I disagree. Paying money to advance faster is also P2W, like in the case with riding lessons. And evidently lots of people see it the same way.Alandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
Vivec: Worse, buddy. They're buying it.3 -
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✭✭✭Pay to skip is not pay to win. All MMOs have xp pots even the ones that have a monthly mandatory fee.1 -
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THANK YOU! I can't see why people don't understand this. I see people making so many "P2W" posts and the closest thing to P2W in this game is Imperial, and perhaps not even then.
I disagree. Paying money to advance faster is also P2W, like in the case with riding lessons. And evidently lots of people see it the same way.
Well I know you seem to want to change the definition to suit your argument but facts are facts. Also there is going to be a pretty good chance of these since you can get them not just from writs but also from your hirelings AND everytime you skin a fish also get a chance. So I dont understand why you think its going to be so rare. The pots on the store are not even as good as the pots you can craft. Since you can craft 4 at a time and add up to 30 minutes I think to the duration from base.0
