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Pay2win! Now its going live. 50%XP boosters work for Championspoints!

Rhakon
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I remember that Developers mentioned that the boosters will not affect CS, am i wrong?

This is Pay2win at its best.

There should be mechanics to catch up in this boring, linear, player separating system what nothing contribute to player individualism as advertised.
At the end all players are the same. CS should be reworked completely anyway.
Change the name in "Money Generating System" with the slogan "you want to play,together and competitive, then pay."
At Least sub should give the full bonus!
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  • Valrien
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    Wow, the troll is strong with this one. I guess I'll take the bait. Please explain to me how this is P2W,
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    Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)
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  • nastuug
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    I love Champion Spoints.
  • kevlarto_ESO
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    You have to get the components to craft them at this point, you do not buy them in the store, so p2w does not yet apply, /sigh

    Here is a little cut and paste for the p2w knee jerk reactions.

    •How do you make Psijic Ambrosia? •
    The recipe for Psijic Ambrosia cannot be found whole. Rather, it comes in seven parts, each distinct from the other. These recipe fragments can be found by completing Provisioner Writs; the higher ranked Writ you complete, the more likely you are to find a fragment of the recipe. Recipe fragments can be traded or sold to other players, however, so an industrious Provisioner who has two fragments could trade or sell one of them to get a fragment they do not have.

    •Once you have all seven fragments, simply use any single fragment from either your inventory or the quickslot. This will consume all seven fragments, and will produce one complete and usable Psijic Ambrosia Recipe. This, too, can be sold or traded to other players. Consuming the recipe itself will finally endow you with the knowledge to craft Psijic Ambrosia!

    •Psijic Ambrosia has three ingredients required to make it:
    Frost Mirriam, Bervez Juice, and Perfect Roe. Frost Mirriam and Bervez Juice are both existing ingredients used in a variety of high-end purple foods and drinks; they can only be found by completing Provisioner Writs or by receiving them from your Hireling. Perfect Roe is brand-new, however, and (at least for the moment) used only in the crafting of Psijic Ambrosia.
    •Perfect Roe can be found by fishing. Every time you skin a non-trophy fish, you obtain fish meat. However, you will now also have a small chance to obtain Perfect Roe.
    Edited by kevlarto_ESO on June 15, 2015 3:12PM
  • Davadin
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    Rhakon wrote: »
    I remember that Developers mentioned that the boosters will not affect CS, am i wrong?

    This is Pay2win at its best.

    There should be mechanics to catch up in this boring, linear, player separating system what nothing contribute to player individualism as advertised.
    At the end all players are the same. CS should be reworked completely anyway.
    Change the name in "Money Generating System" with the slogan "you want to play,together and competitive, then pay."
    At Least sub should give the full bonus!
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    when full pots of ambrosia is avialable in the store, then come back to this thread.

    until then, i dont see how +XP boost is different than ESO+....


    until crown store has something that increase magicka/health/stam or spell/weapon damage, or increase health bubble or shield or stuff like that.... UNTIL THEN........

    then the sky is not falling.





    nothing to see here. move along.
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  • SURxR3AL
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    I don't see anywhere in the patch notes saying you have to spend $$$ in order to get this option.....yep now where
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  • TheEmoVampire
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    IDK how it would be, higher level players are supposed to be more powerful that's the whole point in raking up. Plus how is it P2W? can you even buy the recipe in the crown store?
  • Valrien
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    IDK how it would be, higher level players are supposed to be more powerful that's the whole point in raking up. Plus how is it P2W? can you even buy the recipe in the crown store?

    No, you can't
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  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    You can buy the same XP pots in the store 5 for 1000 crowns.
  • Sausage
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    If the potions/stuff are catch-up only to reach a certain amount of CP its convenient, if the potions/stuff are usable by everybody and as much they want, its P2W.
  • Glory
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    Valrien wrote: »
    Wow, the troll is strong with this one. I guess I'll take the bait. Please explain to me how this is P2W,

    ZOS introduces new Experience boosters found both "in-game" and in the crown store.

    ZOS makes boosters affect champion point gain, directly related to player strength. If you use these boosters you have an inherent advantage at getting stronger faster.

    ZOS makes 'in-game' items ridiculously hard to obtain (7 recipes found ONLY via crafting writs, then rare purple ingredients and a gold ingredient with a "small" chance to obtain which I am guessing will be near 0%).

    ZOS profits because only the most wealthy players can afford in game potions, so it's buy crown store potions, be eternally poor buying unaffordable in game items, or falling behind.
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  • nimander99
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    It's a craftable recipe and not on the crown store... how again is that p2w?
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  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    The potions are usable by anyone vet rank or not. Since cp is affected by xp they also affect your cp gains.
  • Ryuho
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    Bla bla, good luck with catching golden fish needed to craft it :wink: Not mention of obtaininig a recipe.. But why doing fishing, which almost no1 ever made, better to buy potion from crown store! Anyway, we will see next days a lot of ppls trying to catch mighty golden fish, but drop rate will be extremaly low imo, happy fishing <3
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  • nastuug
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    You can buy the same XP pots in the store 5 for 1000 crowns.

    That's how much they cost? Holy Jeebus...
  • Rhakon
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    Pay money to get stronger faster = Pay2win! .
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    You dont catch the fish. There is a slim chance everytime you skin a fish you get one. No passives affect your chance.
  • LordAsp
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    Maybe now nirncrux farmers won't leave crawlers and worms on the nodes so they don't respawn. They'll actually gather them or sell them in guild traders to fishers to farm for Perfect Roe.
  • Valrien
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    Rhakon wrote: »
    Pay money to get stronger faster = Pay2win! .

    not really, since everyone can end up there. P2W is getting something that can only be gotten with money.
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    Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)
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  • Davadin
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    Rhakon wrote: »
    Pay money to get stronger faster = Pay2win! .

    like ESO+?
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  • WebBull
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    Rhakon wrote: »
    I remember that Developers mentioned that the boosters will not affect CS, am i wrong?

    This is Pay2win at its best.

    There should be mechanics to catch up in this boring, linear, player separating system what nothing contribute to player individualism as advertised.
    At the end all players are the same. CS should be reworked completely anyway.
    Change the name in "Money Generating System" with the slogan "you want to play,together and competitive, then pay."
    At Least sub should give the full bonus!
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    Farm it in game or buy it in the store. Everyone has access. Bring your whine elsewhere.
  • Shadesofkin
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    Who Cares?

    Seriously. There are experience boosting items in dozens of other games...it does not change anything. I'm not concerned with how may cp's a person has anymore than I am with how much gold someone else has. My guilds aren't asking for CP scores to remain in the guild and I doubt they ever will....so....who cares?
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  • Caspur
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    Rhakon wrote: »

    This is Pay2win at its best.

    Clearly, you've never played SWTOR

    A place where everything and nothing exists, this is my playground.
  • c0rp
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    If I can craft it in game how is it p2w? Many clueless people making posts these days.
    Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
    Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
    Disable abilities while holding block.
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  • Skiserony
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    Rhakon wrote: »
    Pay money to get stronger faster = Pay2win! .

    Wrong, P2W is pay money to get stronger. Becoming stronger faster is not P2W.
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    c0rp wrote: »
    If I can craft it in game how is it p2w? Many clueless people making posts these days.

    I remember when ESO had a cover charge. $15 or you can stare at the login screen. Now people want everything free and not just that but they want the stuff not to be sold for cash either. So no way for ZOS to generate revenue means content stagnation.
  • Valrien
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    Skiserony wrote: »
    Rhakon wrote: »
    Pay money to get stronger faster = Pay2win! .

    Wrong, P2W is pay money to get stronger. Becoming stronger faster is not P2W.

    THANK YOU! I can't see why people don't understand this. I see people making so many "P2W" posts and the closest thing to P2W in this game is Imperial, and perhaps not even then.
    Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
    Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)
    Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake
  • Rhakon
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    Valrien wrote: »
    Rhakon wrote: »
    Pay money to get stronger faster = Pay2win! .

    not really, since everyone can end up there. P2W is getting something that can only be gotten with money.

    get up there takes for ever the minority of players will reach that..



  • WebBull
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    Rhakon wrote: »
    I remember that Developers mentioned that the boosters will not affect CS, am i wrong?

    This is Pay2win at its best.

    At Least sub should give the full bonus!
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    You call the potion P2W but then want your ESO Plus sub to give you full exp bonus? Inst that P2W just in a different form?
  • Valrien
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    Rhakon wrote: »
    Valrien wrote: »
    Rhakon wrote: »
    Pay money to get stronger faster = Pay2win! .

    not really, since everyone can end up there. P2W is getting something that can only be gotten with money.

    get up there takes for ever the minority of players will reach that..



    that's not the point. the point is that they can reach it, so it's not pay 2 win
    Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
    Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)
    Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake
  • RedTalon
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    All hail Fishers they are now the pay2win class...what what?

    I have 7000 crowns left over what should I do
    Edited by RedTalon on June 15, 2015 3:20PM
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