coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »FancyTuna8 wrote: »I dont care about getting it from another player. Personally i want to catch it my self. But its impossible. You all think i'm over reacting and maybe i am. But i dont like it when players not developers control how i can play my game. The problem with people charging would have never even existed if people did camp every known spawn point night and day
I am sure there are dozens of things you want in-game that you want to earn on your own. This one is being gated by other players, and it has fixated you on it.
I dealt in markets for a long time. this is a market. It will be broken, because it is a completely false market. For example, has anyone considered paying an in-game currency for the vampire bite and re-selling it at 1/3 price to 3 players? That chain reaction would lead to a breaking of the market. Instead, observe this--it is fascinating, and will work its way through the player base like a pseudo-virus. The rate of spread will overtake the player base number in such a way as to destroy any rarity. Like I said, you seem to enjoy the rest of the game, why not enjoy all the other stuff and see what has become of this issue at that time.
As to these console players having an endless supply of troll, I don't believe it. these are people who can't be bothered to do most things in life, they will get tired of the responsibility of controlling the supply of vampire bites. Oh, and you will get people who just want to troll the trolls and give the bites away for free.
As always i respect your opinion. I just have a real problem with the idea that someone has control over how i'm allowed to play my game. And waiting 4-6 months to finally get to play the way i wish isn't worth it. You see like most gamers i play to run away from the reality that my life sucks.So i play games with my free time to excape. Now imagine that someone can control how you enjoy your game. would you enjoy it? I doubt it.
Inevitably in any MMORPG there will be times when other players have a direct positive/negative affect on your game time. I think the fact that you EXPECT to be able to get Vampire/werewolf RIGHT AWAY is where you're going wrong.
Isn't there enough things in the game to do for you THIS EARLY into it that this ONE thing is making you rage?
coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »FancyTuna8 wrote: »I dont care about getting it from another player. Personally i want to catch it my self. But its impossible. You all think i'm over reacting and maybe i am. But i dont like it when players not developers control how i can play my game. The problem with people charging would have never even existed if people did camp every known spawn point night and day
I am sure there are dozens of things you want in-game that you want to earn on your own. This one is being gated by other players, and it has fixated you on it.
I dealt in markets for a long time. this is a market. It will be broken, because it is a completely false market. For example, has anyone considered paying an in-game currency for the vampire bite and re-selling it at 1/3 price to 3 players? That chain reaction would lead to a breaking of the market. Instead, observe this--it is fascinating, and will work its way through the player base like a pseudo-virus. The rate of spread will overtake the player base number in such a way as to destroy any rarity. Like I said, you seem to enjoy the rest of the game, why not enjoy all the other stuff and see what has become of this issue at that time.
As to these console players having an endless supply of troll, I don't believe it. these are people who can't be bothered to do most things in life, they will get tired of the responsibility of controlling the supply of vampire bites. Oh, and you will get people who just want to troll the trolls and give the bites away for free.
As always i respect your opinion. I just have a real problem with the idea that someone has control over how i'm allowed to play my game. And waiting 4-6 months to finally get to play the way i wish isn't worth it. You see like most gamers i play to run away from the reality that my life sucks.So i play games with my free time to excape. Now imagine that someone can control how you enjoy your game. would you enjoy it? I doubt it.
Inevitably in any MMORPG there will be times when other players have a direct positive/negative affect on your game time. I think the fact that you EXPECT to be able to get Vampire/werewolf RIGHT AWAY is where you're going wrong.
Isn't there enough things in the game to do for you THIS EARLY into it that this ONE thing is making you rage?
I respect ur opinion but you seem to not understand what i'm saying
coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »FancyTuna8 wrote: »I dont care about getting it from another player. Personally i want to catch it my self. But its impossible. You all think i'm over reacting and maybe i am. But i dont like it when players not developers control how i can play my game. The problem with people charging would have never even existed if people did camp every known spawn point night and day
I am sure there are dozens of things you want in-game that you want to earn on your own. This one is being gated by other players, and it has fixated you on it.
I dealt in markets for a long time. this is a market. It will be broken, because it is a completely false market. For example, has anyone considered paying an in-game currency for the vampire bite and re-selling it at 1/3 price to 3 players? That chain reaction would lead to a breaking of the market. Instead, observe this--it is fascinating, and will work its way through the player base like a pseudo-virus. The rate of spread will overtake the player base number in such a way as to destroy any rarity. Like I said, you seem to enjoy the rest of the game, why not enjoy all the other stuff and see what has become of this issue at that time.
As to these console players having an endless supply of troll, I don't believe it. these are people who can't be bothered to do most things in life, they will get tired of the responsibility of controlling the supply of vampire bites. Oh, and you will get people who just want to troll the trolls and give the bites away for free.
As always i respect your opinion. I just have a real problem with the idea that someone has control over how i'm allowed to play my game. And waiting 4-6 months to finally get to play the way i wish isn't worth it. You see like most gamers i play to run away from the reality that my life sucks.So i play games with my free time to excape. Now imagine that someone can control how you enjoy your game. would you enjoy it? I doubt it.
Inevitably in any MMORPG there will be times when other players have a direct positive/negative affect on your game time. I think the fact that you EXPECT to be able to get Vampire/werewolf RIGHT AWAY is where you're going wrong.
Isn't there enough things in the game to do for you THIS EARLY into it that this ONE thing is making you rage?
I respect ur opinion but you seem to not understand what i'm saying
I respect your opinion as well but you do not seem to understand what I was quoting/referring to. Open up the "show previous quotes". If that still makes you think I do not understand (condescending as heck) then there is no help for you as it pertains to this topic.
coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »FancyTuna8 wrote: »I dont care about getting it from another player. Personally i want to catch it my self. But its impossible. You all think i'm over reacting and maybe i am. But i dont like it when players not developers control how i can play my game. The problem with people charging would have never even existed if people did camp every known spawn point night and day
I am sure there are dozens of things you want in-game that you want to earn on your own. This one is being gated by other players, and it has fixated you on it.
I dealt in markets for a long time. this is a market. It will be broken, because it is a completely false market. For example, has anyone considered paying an in-game currency for the vampire bite and re-selling it at 1/3 price to 3 players? That chain reaction would lead to a breaking of the market. Instead, observe this--it is fascinating, and will work its way through the player base like a pseudo-virus. The rate of spread will overtake the player base number in such a way as to destroy any rarity. Like I said, you seem to enjoy the rest of the game, why not enjoy all the other stuff and see what has become of this issue at that time.
As to these console players having an endless supply of troll, I don't believe it. these are people who can't be bothered to do most things in life, they will get tired of the responsibility of controlling the supply of vampire bites. Oh, and you will get people who just want to troll the trolls and give the bites away for free.
As always i respect your opinion. I just have a real problem with the idea that someone has control over how i'm allowed to play my game. And waiting 4-6 months to finally get to play the way i wish isn't worth it. You see like most gamers i play to run away from the reality that my life sucks.So i play games with my free time to excape. Now imagine that someone can control how you enjoy your game. would you enjoy it? I doubt it.
Inevitably in any MMORPG there will be times when other players have a direct positive/negative affect on your game time. I think the fact that you EXPECT to be able to get Vampire/werewolf RIGHT AWAY is where you're going wrong.
Isn't there enough things in the game to do for you THIS EARLY into it that this ONE thing is making you rage?
I respect ur opinion but you seem to not understand what i'm saying
I respect your opinion as well but you do not seem to understand what I was quoting/referring to. Open up the "show previous quotes". If that still makes you think I do not understand (condescending as heck) then there is no help for you as it pertains to this topic.
Ok let me say this. I have a O.C.D. That i gotta do things in a certain order. I just dont think its right that ZOS allows ppl to control how others play the game.
coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »FancyTuna8 wrote: »I dont care about getting it from another player. Personally i want to catch it my self. But its impossible. You all think i'm over reacting and maybe i am. But i dont like it when players not developers control how i can play my game. The problem with people charging would have never even existed if people did camp every known spawn point night and day
I am sure there are dozens of things you want in-game that you want to earn on your own. This one is being gated by other players, and it has fixated you on it.
I dealt in markets for a long time. this is a market. It will be broken, because it is a completely false market. For example, has anyone considered paying an in-game currency for the vampire bite and re-selling it at 1/3 price to 3 players? That chain reaction would lead to a breaking of the market. Instead, observe this--it is fascinating, and will work its way through the player base like a pseudo-virus. The rate of spread will overtake the player base number in such a way as to destroy any rarity. Like I said, you seem to enjoy the rest of the game, why not enjoy all the other stuff and see what has become of this issue at that time.
As to these console players having an endless supply of troll, I don't believe it. these are people who can't be bothered to do most things in life, they will get tired of the responsibility of controlling the supply of vampire bites. Oh, and you will get people who just want to troll the trolls and give the bites away for free.
As always i respect your opinion. I just have a real problem with the idea that someone has control over how i'm allowed to play my game. And waiting 4-6 months to finally get to play the way i wish isn't worth it. You see like most gamers i play to run away from the reality that my life sucks.So i play games with my free time to excape. Now imagine that someone can control how you enjoy your game. would you enjoy it? I doubt it.
Inevitably in any MMORPG there will be times when other players have a direct positive/negative affect on your game time. I think the fact that you EXPECT to be able to get Vampire/werewolf RIGHT AWAY is where you're going wrong.
Isn't there enough things in the game to do for you THIS EARLY into it that this ONE thing is making you rage?
I respect ur opinion but you seem to not understand what i'm saying
I respect your opinion as well but you do not seem to understand what I was quoting/referring to. Open up the "show previous quotes". If that still makes you think I do not understand (condescending as heck) then there is no help for you as it pertains to this topic.
Ok let me say this. I have a O.C.D. That i gotta do things in a certain order. I just dont think its right that ZOS allows ppl to control how others play the game.
I hear ya. And that would be aweful. I feel for ya. I'm kind of the opposite. I have constant anxiety that leads towards (or gives me a viable excuse) to be lazy. Try thinking about vampire as your end game. Or do the "take your thoughts to court" and try to change the vampire idea to end game for you. Tbh that would be great for your longevity as it would make your character feel fresh at v14 (or work towards it post v1 even).
Ok let me say this. I have a O.C.D. That i gotta do things in a certain order. I just dont think its right that ZOS allows ppl to control how others play the game.
Ok let me say this. I have a O.C.D. That i gotta do things in a certain order. I just dont think its right that ZOS allows ppl to control how others play the game.
Sorry to hear that bud and understand what you are going thru. Wish I could help ya dude, but you are just going to have to accept it that waiting is only option.
Gamers.Shadow wrote: »Lol just had someone tell me on the mic "20$ psn code upfront or no bite." said i was gonna report him and he said "go ahead you aint got no proof."
this is the tenth time TODAY some one has attempted this. Virus if u get the refund please let me know i may ask for one too.
Gamers.Shadow wrote: »Lol just had someone tell me on the mic "20$ psn code upfront or no bite." said i was gonna report him and he said "go ahead you aint got no proof."
this is the tenth time TODAY some one has attemped this. Virus if u get the refund please let me know i may ask for one too.
theoretical question: if this happens on xbox, and we say xbox record that, does it pick up other players' voice/chat? because then we have proofGamers.Shadow wrote: »Lol just had someone tell me on the mic "20$ psn code upfront or no bite." said i was gonna report him and he said "go ahead you aint got no proof."
this is the tenth time TODAY some one has attemped this. Virus if u get the refund please let me know i may ask for one too.
FancyTuna8 wrote: »theoretical question: if this happens on xbox, and we say xbox record that, does it pick up other players' voice/chat? because then we have proofGamers.Shadow wrote: »Lol just had someone tell me on the mic "20$ psn code upfront or no bite." said i was gonna report him and he said "go ahead you aint got no proof."
this is the tenth time TODAY some one has attemped this. Virus if u get the refund please let me know i may ask for one too.
Ok let me say this. I have a O.C.D. That i gotta do things in a certain order. I just dont think its right that ZOS allows ppl to control how others play the game.
FancyTuna8 wrote: »Ok let me say this. I have a O.C.D. That i gotta do things in a certain order. I just dont think its right that ZOS allows ppl to control how others play the game.
I think all of us want the player base to be healthy and full, so we try to be helpful in any way to keep people on the game. Is it possible for you to temporarily shelve this character's progress, creating any of the other 7 characters you are allowed, and playing them (with it in mind that they will NOT become vamps/wolves)? when you've finished that, you can come back to the vamp bite market and see if it is corrected.
btw, I doubt it takes 4-6 months. If the wait were 7 days to make a vampire, then the first derivative should be 1.5x where every x is a 7 day period. Multiplied by however many people want to give bites for free. Add in for people who want to sell bites for reasonable in-game amounts.
For what it is worth, I agree it is a complete injustice, and I wish there were a way for good players to band together and make it right. But honestly, the way that the solution is going to mimic what people do in real life to skirt monopolies/tyrants/injustice is going to be fun to watch. these greedy/fraudulent players may never get their comeuppance, but I'm pretty sure that someone, even from their own ranks, will destroy their oligopoly.
None of what I'm saying should excuse the devs from creating a system that allows fraud (even if you could argue the fraud is only possible on people capable of being manipulated without too much trouble.)
freespirit wrote: »I do understand what is bugging you @The.Virus, I also understand your health issue, I have several of those myself......
You say because of your OCD you need to have vampire as soon as possible........
As a veteran of many, many group and solo therapy sessions can you break down why/what it is about the Vampire play style that is making you want it so badly?
Perhaps then instead of just slinging insults at each other, some the many helpful people who frequent these Forums can give you suggestions of other skills or abilities that might tide you over until the Vamp bite frenzy has settled down a bit.
I know you believe that it's not going to slow down any time soon, true it might take a bit longer on PS4 if people are actually paying real money for them BUT every week there will be more and more bites available as peoples timers kick in......
So eventually the kiddies camping out the spawn points will have no-one to scam.
Although to my knowledge RL money was never asked for on PC we DID have people camping out all the spawn points and killing the spawns before they could infect anyone and this did go on for some time.
I suppose my basic question is......
What are you looking for from being a Vampire?
and lets see if our combined brains can't help you find that elsewhere in the short term BECAUSE this is a really awesome game that you will really enjoy playing with your friends and family.
freespirit wrote: »I do understand what is bugging you @The.Virus, I also understand your health issue, I have several of those myself......
You say because of your OCD you need to have vampire as soon as possible........
As a veteran of many, many group and solo therapy sessions can you break down why/what it is about the Vampire play style that is making you want it so badly?
Perhaps then instead of just slinging insults at each other, some the many helpful people who frequent these Forums can give you suggestions of other skills or abilities that might tide you over until the Vamp bite frenzy has settled down a bit.
I know you believe that it's not going to slow down any time soon, true it might take a bit longer on PS4 if people are actually paying real money for them BUT every week there will be more and more bites available as peoples timers kick in......
So eventually the kiddies camping out the spawn points will have no-one to scam.
Although to my knowledge RL money was never asked for on PC we DID have people camping out all the spawn points and killing the spawns before they could infect anyone and this did go on for some time.
I suppose my basic question is......
What are you looking for from being a Vampire?
and lets see if our combined brains can't help you find that elsewhere in the short term BECAUSE this is a really awesome game that you will really enjoy playing with your friends and family.
Ok first you and alot of people will probably say i'm nuts for this but i'll be honest becuz you seem decent.
Ok dont laugh but the only real reason i want vampirism is becuase i've been fasenated by vampires my hole life and the reason i love this series so much is the fact i can be a vampire. Its not about the skills or benifits. and i know vamps are weak to fire that is why i run a dunmer.
I hope this explained
freespirit wrote: »freespirit wrote: »I do understand what is bugging you @The.Virus, I also understand your health issue, I have several of those myself......
You say because of your OCD you need to have vampire as soon as possible........
As a veteran of many, many group and solo therapy sessions can you break down why/what it is about the Vampire play style that is making you want it so badly?
Perhaps then instead of just slinging insults at each other, some the many helpful people who frequent these Forums can give you suggestions of other skills or abilities that might tide you over until the Vamp bite frenzy has settled down a bit.
I know you believe that it's not going to slow down any time soon, true it might take a bit longer on PS4 if people are actually paying real money for them BUT every week there will be more and more bites available as peoples timers kick in......
So eventually the kiddies camping out the spawn points will have no-one to scam.
Although to my knowledge RL money was never asked for on PC we DID have people camping out all the spawn points and killing the spawns before they could infect anyone and this did go on for some time.
I suppose my basic question is......
What are you looking for from being a Vampire?
and lets see if our combined brains can't help you find that elsewhere in the short term BECAUSE this is a really awesome game that you will really enjoy playing with your friends and family.
Ok first you and alot of people will probably say i'm nuts for this but i'll be honest becuz you seem decent.
Ok dont laugh but the only real reason i want vampirism is becuase i've been fasenated by vampires my hole life and the reason i love this series so much is the fact i can be a vampire. Its not about the skills or benifits. and i know vamps are weak to fire that is why i run a dunmer.
I hope this explained
That is a totally fine explanation and one I truly understand, my 19yr old was beyond excited when Dawnguard came out for Skyrim and thought I was sooo wrong for going with the 'other' side......
Unfortunately it sort of rules out any useful help and advice, to keep you going in the meantime........
I would still urge you to hang on in there, if you can, it is truly worth it.
Gamers.Shadow wrote: »still more campers and kill squads and none of these so call nice people you pc players keep refering to