Strongly Wish Horses Had Variation Again

rb2001 · June 2015

Hi all,

I feel like the recent changes to horses took the game backwards in "evolution".

I don't understand why we would remove horse stats and have horses (and other animals) from different provinces, raising and breeding all behave the same with respect to endurance, speed, etc.

Before, it made sense to want to purchase a fine, expensive midnight steed, but now, it's a draft horse with a paint job. I just don't see how this is an improvement. In reality, a draft horse and a warhorse are greatly different beasts with different pros and cons.

There could be rider skills and horse stats working together in tandem.

Rider skills would affect the realm of things like the following:

Horse handling (steering "responsiveness", general responsiveness of the noble animal)
Horseback item usage / combat tiers (ability to use different items and weapons while mounted in tiers, with archery being among the highest)
Passive abilities set, akin to Legerdemain for various mild boosts in terms of urging your horse to cover different types of terrain

Horse skills would be:

Strength (carrying capacity)
Endurance (obvious)
Speed (obvious, because a draft horse does not run like a racing stallion)
Protection (how much hits you take before being dismounted)

Honestly, each individual animal should have its own abilities, pros and cons, which can be trained, and each character, not player, should have their own horsemanship skills.

A man can dream.

nastuug · June 2015

They are too busy paying artists to reskin the current mount models to consider what you're asking...

rb2001 · June 2015

It saddens me deeply that my fine clouded palfrey is the same as everything else. Variation is what makes things fun. Having my clouded palfrey and knowing that it is not as fast as the others, not as strong.. but it looks so cool, is what makes a thing interesting.

Hellsrelic · June 2015

At best they'll give us a , Guars get 5% carrying cap, Horses get 5% stamina cap and Cats get 5% speed cap.

PBpsy · June 2015

No variation is the only way to make mounts not ptw. Would you really want a 5kC 70% speed rainbow farting purple guar on the Crown shop.

Sorry for giving ZOS ideas .

rb2001 · June 2015

PBpsy wrote: »

No variation is the only way to make mounts not ptw. Would you really want a 5kC 70% speed rainbow farting purple guar on the Crown shop.

Sorry for giving ZOS ideas .

I'd not want a guar if it came with 5k crowns.

rb2001 · June 2015

Awful when gameplay has to take a dive to make spending more money seem "interesting".

PBpsy · June 2015

rb2001 wrote: »

Awful when gameplay has to take a dive to make spending more money seem "interesting".

The game was supposed to be P2P game with new content every 6 week . People didn't want that and the game failed.As a consequence we should have reasonable expectation on how the gameplay will evolve. At the moment we can only hope to get some more enjoyment out of it and hope that it doesn't go completely p2w in the near future.

lolo_01b16_ESO · June 2015

PBpsy wrote: »

No variation is the only way to make mounts not ptw. Would you really want a 5kC 70% speed rainbow farting purple guar on the Crown shop.

As long as I can get a ugly brown horse with 70% speed ingame it's not p2w.

I like the idea in the op.

And I hate that my pvp horse has saddle bags since 1.6

UrQuan · June 2015

PBpsy wrote: »

No variation is the only way to make mounts not ptw. Would you really want a 5kC 70% speed rainbow farting purple guar on the Crown shop.

Sorry for giving ZOS ideas .

Pretty much this.

There are 2 reasons why this had to happen if mounts were ever to be sold on the Crown Store.

First, they had to make your mount progression transfer over to your character, because otherwise nobody would buy a new mount on the Crown Store if they already had a maxed out mount. Why would you spend real money to buy a new mount if you then have to spend 180 days (or even more real money for Crown Store riding lessons) to get it to be as good as the mount you already have?

Second, is exactly what @PBpsy says. If the mounts had differences in their stats, then inevitably some of the Crown Store mounts would be pay to win. If there's anything in the game where the only way to get the best is by spending Crowns on it, then that's a serious problem.

NotHappy · June 2015

So I was looking for info on mounts to see if it's just looks or if one was better or different stats. From what I see here it looks as tho they are all the same other than looks. Is that correct?

UrQuan · June 2015

NotHappy wrote: »

So I was looking for info on mounts to see if it's just looks or if one was better or different stats. From what I see here it looks as tho they are all the same other than looks. Is that correct?

Yes, that's correct.

idk · June 2015

PBpsy wrote: »

rb2001 wrote: »

Awful when gameplay has to take a dive to make spending more money seem "interesting".

The game was supposed to be P2P game with new content every 6 week . People didn't want that and the game failed.As a consequence we should have reasonable expectation on how the gameplay will evolve. At the moment we can only hope to get some more enjoyment out of it and hope that it doesn't go completely p2w in the near future.

They failed to even try to come out with new content every 6 weeks. They haven't come out with any new content in over 7 months. Not sure how one can say we didn't want new content every 6 weeks when that ended after 6 months.

NotHappy · June 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

NotHappy wrote: »

So I was looking for info on mounts to see if it's just looks or if one was better or different stats. From what I see here it looks as tho they are all the same other than looks. Is that correct?

Yes, that's correct.

Thanks for the reply.

xaraan · June 2015

I like having a riding skill where my mounts are all equal and only difference is appearance myself.

PBpsy · June 2015

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

PBpsy wrote: »

rb2001 wrote: »

Awful when gameplay has to take a dive to make spending more money seem "interesting".

The game was supposed to be P2P game with new content every 6 week . People didn't want that and the game failed.As a consequence we should have reasonable expectation on how the gameplay will evolve. At the moment we can only hope to get some more enjoyment out of it and hope that it doesn't go completely p2w in the near future.

They failed to even try to come out with new content every 6 weeks. They haven't come out with any new content in over 7 months. Not sure how one can say we didn't want new content every 6 weeks when that ended after 6 months.

People didn't want P2P they wanted B2P or at least that is what ZOS told us the community wanted. The lack of regular content is just a corollary.