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ravenbirgil
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I understand that it's annoying with all the bugs and login problems. But impossible to Stress test something like this on this level. I had a lot of day o e problems to which was extremely annoying when I waited over a year for it to come out on consel. But come on people....enough with all the slagging off. It was obvious that there was go.nah be problems. Something on this scale is important go off without a hitch
  • ravenbirgil
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    #impossible
  • Shunravi
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    As a longtime denizen of the forum, I LOL.
    This one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!
  • manny254
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    Oh if only you got to see the bugged mess that was PC launch. You have to worry about server issues, but we flat out had a broken game.
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  • RazzPitazz
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    We knew this would happen. I'm not trying to offend anyone but from experience I know very well that console gamers are FAR less forgiving than PC players. ZoS had it made with their PC crowd, some of the most level headed of gamers especially on a forum. Now they have to handle the console crowd who are far louder, persistent and "entitled".
    I kind of feel bad for ZoS, but on the other hand they actively ignored the warnings from early beta onward.
    Edited by RazzPitazz on June 11, 2015 5:43AM
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  • Syntse
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    I'm kinda surprised that all very similar issues are still present as they were year a go when PC release was. Well of course during launch one cannot avoid almost having DOS attack as all the people trying to login at the same time. Also issues that rise when so many people are doing same things at same time in same area as everyone is creating their first char. Anyway a lot of things are present there that they should have already learned and fixed from PC beta year.
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  • NadiusMaximus
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    Stress test? Wtf have we done for the last year? We warned about these problems and everyone was like, oh it will be working by launch. Well, here you go.

  • Shiavui
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    To be expected, obviously. However one would also expect things to improve gradually over time, but we'll see.
  • noladude
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    We knew this would happen. I'm not trying to offend anyone but from experience I know very well that console gamers are FAR less forgiving than PC players. ZoS had it made with their PC crowd, some of the most level headed of gamers especially on a forum. Now they have to handle the console crowd who are far louder, persistent and "entitled".
    I kind of feel bad for ZoS, but on the other hand they actively ignored the warnings from early beta onward.

    Us console gamers rarely have to deal with BS like this. You can say console games are of little quality and depth in comparison to pc games, but at least they're playable out of the box. We're just used to paying for something that actually works.
  • ItsGlaive
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    They had one very limited beta test for consoles, this is the result.
    Allow cross-platform transfers and merges
  • leshpar
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    Let me see: diablo 3, world of warcraft, neverwinter, ESO PC, ESO Console, Archeage, Everquest, and probably many more games had day one launch issues. This is kind of expected for the game NOT to work on launch day at this point for an MMO. I see nothing new here. I have no complaints.

    Also, PC master race. <3
  • RazzPitazz
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    noladude wrote: »
    We knew this would happen. I'm not trying to offend anyone but from experience I know very well that console gamers are FAR less forgiving than PC players. ZoS had it made with their PC crowd, some of the most level headed of gamers especially on a forum. Now they have to handle the console crowd who are far louder, persistent and "entitled".
    I kind of feel bad for ZoS, but on the other hand they actively ignored the warnings from early beta onward.

    Us console gamers rarely have to deal with BS like this. You can say console games are of little quality and depth in comparison to pc games, but at least they're playable out of the box. We're just used to paying for something that actually works.

    In no way was I comparing qualities as I also play console. I was heavy into Halo 2, 3, Reach, 4 Modern Warfare titles, Assassins creed titles, hell even Titan fall. I have visited forums for most of these games and have experienced the culture. All I was really starting was that the forum goers and players that ZoS, specifically, managed to get for PC were of a much more mature nature in general than one would usually expect, and knowing full well how most console players react when things go sideways that ZoS very well may have the other side of that community coin now. Again, generalities. Apologies for any offense.
    Edited by RazzPitazz on June 11, 2015 6:20AM
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  • Acrolas
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    Just wait until they find out about Cadwell's Silver and Gold...

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  • Spottswoode
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  • netch_a_sketch
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    I wholeheartedly agree. As someone who's been playing ESO since beta on a laptop that can barely run the game, I've experienced more than my fair share of bugs.
    There is absolutely nothing you can do about the bugs other than report them to the team in-game or via customer support. Complaining on social networks and forums just spreads a lot of negativity around.

    I actually expected many more bugs at the start of the PS4 release, they made a wise choice by delaying it a year. I've had no problems except queuing at peak hours.
  • ijacksparrowed
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    The fixes will come soon. They told us so a year ago, so we have to assume the fixes are coming soon.
  • Julianos
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    im a pc player and i will never stop complaining about ZOS. You guys maybe right in general but i ve been playing this game since beta i seen lots of broken promises and false advertisements. In pc beta people fed back all bugs and every broken things in the game but they all ignored by ZOS and game launched almost at unplayable stage and those bugs and broken mechanics lasted half year. I remember every bugged thing at beta and all of them was exist at launch and following months they released a broken game. I dont think population bugged out the quests or game mechanics population may affect logging into game but other things in game is just fail programming. And took 1 year to fix the game and still there are some bugs and broken mechanics in the game plus no new content or char customization and lagy useless boring pvp etc. As a customer i have right to complain all the way i can tolarate this issues for 1 month but 1 year ? this is totall rip off.
  • Gorthax
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    As a longtime denizen of the forum, I LOL.

    ^ this x100000000 go start at the very first forum page, read EVERY thread and EVERY post until you are caught up. Then you will understand where console is headed :P
  • Ley
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    I don't remember when the forums were last this active!
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  • Gorthax
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    noladude wrote: »
    We knew this would happen. I'm not trying to offend anyone but from experience I know very well that console gamers are FAR less forgiving than PC players. ZoS had it made with their PC crowd, some of the most level headed of gamers especially on a forum. Now they have to handle the console crowd who are far louder, persistent and "entitled".
    I kind of feel bad for ZoS, but on the other hand they actively ignored the warnings from early beta onward.

    Us console gamers rarely have to deal with BS like this. You can say console games are of little quality and depth in comparison to pc games, but at least they're playable out of the box. We're just used to paying for something that actually works.

    You are also used to paying for day one dlc that is already in the game but you have to pay to unlock :P not to mention countless game breaking bugs (dont even try to deny it), frame rate issues, etc etc. Console isnt glorious sorry to say. Stick around for a while, it is going to get interesting once the console folks understand how badly designed the control schemes are when it comes to weapon swapping in a heated battle and you are standing still in AoE because of the awkward placement......or the silver and gold quest.....or the "soon" comments from ZoS lol BUCKLE UP!
  • Hlaadriel
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    The fixes will come soon. They told us so a year ago, so we have to assume the fixes are coming soon.

    After the console release (TM).... hang on a minute
  • Hlaadriel
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    Ley wrote: »
    I don't remember when the forums were last this active!

    before they said after the console release (TM)
  • oehk
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    We knew this would happen. I'm not trying to offend anyone but from experience I know very well that console gamers are FAR less forgiving than PC players. ZoS had it made with their PC crowd, some of the most level headed of gamers especially on a forum. Now they have to handle the console crowd who are far louder, persistent and "entitled".
    I kind of feel bad for ZoS, but on the other hand they actively ignored the warnings from early beta onward.

    Sure because no PC player has ever acted like an "entitled" brat. I love all the stuck up pc master race/console master race bs on these forums. I *** and whine about a f****d up release no matter the platform it releases on if its a crappy release. I don't run to the store in excitement to pay $240 for 4 copies of a game that should be more stable at release, I go to the store to buy 4 copies of a game expecting that the developers have spent the due diligence required to develop and release a game.

    The only real problem I see is the recent trend of consumers expecting a crappy product and being OK with that, and balking at people who feel they should have a better end product for the money they spent. Games on the Apple ][e, Commodore, and earlier generation PCs and consoles were never released this crappy. Because the consumer would not come back with more money, ever.

    Both platforms are a mess, and only the consumers can enact a change. EA gets no more of my families money since they failed to handle BF3 and countless other titles, UBIsoft is on that list too, along with the fine folks at ZOS now. Its a long list but that's the only way things will really change.
  • grumlins
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    We knew this would happen. I'm not trying to offend anyone but from experience I know very well that console gamers are FAR less forgiving than PC players. ZoS had it made with their PC crowd, some of the most level headed of gamers especially on a forum. Now they have to handle the console crowd who are far louder, persistent and "entitled".
    I kind of feel bad for ZoS, but on the other hand they actively ignored the warnings from early beta onward.

    That hasn't been my experience at all being a recent convert.

    I have to say though that I do agree that they needed to do a better stress outside of the company before launching which would have helped with this situation but I'm satisfied as a long time mmo gamer with their attempts at fixing the problem. They even took the servers down for maintenance a clear and present sign that they actually do care about their players something that many of the mmo developers don't actually do these days on the pc side of things.

    So while it was frustrating to get kicked yesterday, I'm still going to play because it appears they are actually working on the problems until they are fixed which is more than I can say for the multitudes of other titles out there one of which that was released prior to this game that is riddled with bugs lag freezes ongoing beta bugs etc that have never been fixed even on the pc side.
  • Julianos
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    oehk wrote: »
    We knew this would happen. I'm not trying to offend anyone but from experience I know very well that console gamers are FAR less forgiving than PC players. ZoS had it made with their PC crowd, some of the most level headed of gamers especially on a forum. Now they have to handle the console crowd who are far louder, persistent and "entitled".
    I kind of feel bad for ZoS, but on the other hand they actively ignored the warnings from early beta onward.

    Sure because no PC player has ever acted like an "entitled" brat. I love all the stuck up pc master race/console master race bs on these forums. I *** and whine about a f****d up release no matter the platform it releases on if its a crappy release. I don't run to the store in excitement to pay $240 for 4 copies of a game that should be more stable at release, I go to the store to buy 4 copies of a game expecting that the developers have spent the due diligence required to develop and release a game.

    The only real problem I see is the recent trend of consumers expecting a crappy product and being OK with that, and balking at people who feel they should have a better end product for the money they spent. Games on the Apple ][e, Commodore, and earlier generation PCs and consoles were never released this crappy. Because the consumer would not come back with more money, ever.

    Both platforms are a mess, and only the consumers can enact a change. EA gets no more of my families money since they failed to handle BF3 and countless other titles, UBIsoft is on that list too, along with the fine folks at ZOS now. Its a long list but that's the only way things will really change.

    Sane person ^
  • Sallington
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    As a PC player, I paid good money for you console folks to have a flawless launch. Where was my beta test money going!!?!?!?!
    Edited by Sallington on June 11, 2015 1:10PM
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  • gunplummer
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    Nerf DK, oh wait i play a DK nvm...

    Anyway, maybe someone should start a poll for all of the problems pc had at launch then we won't end up with 50k dupe threads. So to make it easy...

    [All classes and skill need to be nerfed/op
    There are a lot of broken quests
    PvP has a small problem with lag
    Bank and inventory size is to small/large
    Reseach takes to long
    Why can't i login
    LFG is broken/can't find group in craglorn
    EXP is too fast/slow
    Game is too easy/hard
    CS won't respond fast enough
    My stuff is gone
    So & so is cheating/exploiting
    Horses are too expensive
    We need/don't need a global AH
    Why can't we dye shields/weapons
    Where is housing
    When will we get more Solo/Group content
    There's not enough/too much content for solo/group
    (We can skip controller support)
    Patch notes ????
    How many gb is this patch
    Where is the LoL button

    And just to be nice I will include community/ZoS responses

    L2P
    You suck
    Stop whining
    Google is your friend
    Search button is in upper right hand corner
    We're well aware that there may be some issues and we are working on them.
    Patch notes will be out soon.

    Ok that should do let's move on ppl. Sorry if i missed anything.

    At least console players don't have to deal with the bot army or gold sellers chat spam. They have it pretty easy at launch we had to play up hill both ways in the snow with lag.
  • bertenburnyb16_ESO
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    Shiavui wrote: »
    To be expected, obviously. However one would also expect things to improve gradually over time, but we'll see.

    lol yeah u would think that, wouldn't you...
    why dont u ask the people who've been waiting over a year for improvement
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