Treasure Hunter and Soulshine/Nightshade/Unassailable sets. Need confirmation

QuadroTony
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guys i bet some1 of you, crazy grinders he-he, already have 225+ CH points to test it

can you get jewerly parts of this sets better than green quality from the chests?
because this is only one high level sets with jewerly parts that can drop up to vr10 from treasure chests. in VR10 locations for example
can any1 confirm this?

with passive Treasure Hunter ofc

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Edited by QuadroTony on June 6, 2015 5:29PM
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  • Personofsecrets
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    There are blue v12 unassailable items, but they were obtainable, to the best of my knowledge, before patch 1.3. They are still bind on equip, but I don't think you can get them to drop anywhere atm besides guild stores. Honestly, I'm not even positive where they originally came from because I have heard that they were a pvp vendor bag item, but also heard that they were items from the Hel-Ra trial.

    As far as soulshine and nightshade, the items have never dropped in blue, but maybe champion passive will change that, if it even works like that to begin with.
    Edited by Personofsecrets on June 6, 2015 5:17PM
  • QuadroTony
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    Alcast wrote: »
    No

    sre you sure? or just guess/trolling?
    There are blue v12 unassailable items, but they were obtainable, to the best of my knowledge, before patch 1.3. They are still bind on equip, but I don't think you can get them to drop anywhere atm besides guild stores. Honestly, I'm not even positive where they originally came from because I have heard that they were a pvp vendor bag item, but also heard that they were items from the Hel-Ra trial.

    As far as soulshine and nightshade, the items have never dropped in blue, but maybe champion passive will change that, if it even works like that to begin with.

    this 3 sets i posted dropped in vr10 location from treasure chests
  • traigusb14_ESO2
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    QuadroTony wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    No

    sre you sure? or just guess/trolling?
    There are blue v12 unassailable items, but they were obtainable, to the best of my knowledge, before patch 1.3. They are still bind on equip, but I don't think you can get them to drop anywhere atm besides guild stores. Honestly, I'm not even positive where they originally came from because I have heard that they were a pvp vendor bag item, but also heard that they were items from the Hel-Ra trial.

    As far as soulshine and nightshade, the items have never dropped in blue, but maybe champion passive will change that, if it even works like that to begin with.

    this 3 sets i posted dropped in vr10 location from treasure chests

    I've seen maybe 2-3 people on the forum that have been actively testing out what they get from this Champion thing. They do get more blues and purples, but I don't think anyone has actively tried to see if they get blue or purple things that are normally green.

    Never really been clear if loot is randomly generated or is fixed. A lot of the purples I have gotten seems pretty random, but I have never seen a set piece drop that wasn't green (even in chests). I don't have that perk yet.
  • Alcast
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    QuadroTony wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    No

    sre you sure? or just guess/trolling?
    There are blue v12 unassailable items, but they were obtainable, to the best of my knowledge, before patch 1.3. They are still bind on equip, but I don't think you can get them to drop anywhere atm besides guild stores. Honestly, I'm not even positive where they originally came from because I have heard that they were a pvp vendor bag item, but also heard that they were items from the Hel-Ra trial.

    As far as soulshine and nightshade, the items have never dropped in blue, but maybe champion passive will change that, if it even works like that to begin with.

    this 3 sets i posted dropped in vr10 location from treasure chests

    You are reading the description wrong. And try avoiding Questions that can be anwered with YES/NO ;)

    I am sure yes. /tested And no not gonna tell you what it does, test it out
    Edited by Alcast on June 6, 2015 5:35PM
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  • QuadroTony
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    Alcast wrote: »
    QuadroTony wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    No

    sre you sure? or just guess/trolling?
    There are blue v12 unassailable items, but they were obtainable, to the best of my knowledge, before patch 1.3. They are still bind on equip, but I don't think you can get them to drop anywhere atm besides guild stores. Honestly, I'm not even positive where they originally came from because I have heard that they were a pvp vendor bag item, but also heard that they were items from the Hel-Ra trial.

    As far as soulshine and nightshade, the items have never dropped in blue, but maybe champion passive will change that, if it even works like that to begin with.

    this 3 sets i posted dropped in vr10 location from treasure chests

    You are reading the description wrong. And try avoiding Questions that can be anwered with YES/NO ;)

    I am sure yes. /tested


    so this passive dont affect all sets, or just ring/neck/?
  • Personofsecrets
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    QuadroTony wrote: »

    this 3 sets i posted dropped in vr10 location from treasure chests

    Yes, yes. Here is this for reference.

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  • QuadroTony
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    so one guy told its not affected
    another - screenshot with proofs probably this items from passive Treasure hunter


    interesting

    need more people with tests pls
  • traigusb14_ESO2
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    QuadroTony wrote: »
    so one guy told its not affected
    another - screenshot with proofs probably this items from passive Treasure hunter


    interesting

    need more people with tests pls

    it is also VR12 not 10... hrmmm
  • Personofsecrets
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    the item i posted isn't proof of the the champion point perk. It is an item that I got from a guild store during 1.3.

    To the best of my knowledge you can't get it any more at v12 unless you are lucky and find it in a guild store.

    Blue v10 items may be possible, I don't have the cp to test or I would.
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    I also wonder if a v13 purple stormknight pendant is possible to find.
  • QuadroTony
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    I also wonder if a v13 purple stormknight pendant is possible to find.

    its max vr12 afaik
    or you saw this vr13 in old days?
  • Personofsecrets
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    vr13 storm knight, to the best of my knowledge, is currently obtainable from craglorn. I forget if you get it from beating dungeon bosses or from opening chests, but it is something that people are after rather than settling with the v12 items that come from AA.

    I also believe that the shield of the storm knight has a low % drop rate regardless of being v13 (terrible upper craglorn drop rate) or v12 (terrible AA warlock ring drop rate).
    Edited by Personofsecrets on June 6, 2015 6:07PM
  • QuadroTony
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    i cant found any vr13 pieces of storm knight in my huge MM addon history
  • Personofsecrets
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    there are many items that don't show up in addon history and the reason for that is because they are rare, not because they don't exist.

    Since you seem interested in rare items I'll share with you the thread I made on them. Keep in mind that the thread is old and no longer comprehensive.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/153126/rare-items-part-deux-dolmen-and-trial-gear#latest
    Edited by Personofsecrets on June 6, 2015 6:20PM
  • QuadroTony
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    thanks!
  • QuadroTony
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    i have 165 atm and alot of threasure maps on all my characters

    will check this thing when i will got 225 CH points
  • GaldorP
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    I did a bit of testing and farmed treasure chests in the AD version of Grahtwood until I had opened 100 Simple Treasure Chests with a character that had the Treasure Hunter passive from the Champion system.

    In the time it took me to find 100 Simple Chests, I've also found 45 Intermediate Chests, 14 Advanced Chests, and 5 Master Chests. I've opened 9 Hidden Treasure Chests as well (I had 2 treasure maps for the zone already, before I started).

    I did not distinguish between empty and filled soul gems just noted when I found either one in a chest.

    Here are my results:
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    All set items have the quality they normally have when obtained from regular treasure chest in this zone (which is green). Results might be different for dolmen, dungeon, or event-triggered chests.

    Of course, I would have to do the same thing now with a character that does not have the Treasue Hunter passive and compare the results to be able to tell how exactly the passive works but I don't think I will do that. At least not right now, sorry ^^ Maybe somebody else could do it and compare their results with mine :)

    Based on my personal experience, it seems to me like the chances to find green set items and regular blue items is increased by quite a bit, but I might be wrong, this is just speculation :) I was also surprised about how many intermediate, advanced and master chests I've found (if the type of chest is different for each player the passive could affect the type of chest you find; if the type of chest is the same for everyone then, of course, that's not possible :)).
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    Does anyone know if that champion passive also applies to safeboxes? Does it increase the chance of finding purple stolen items from them, for example?
  • GaldorP
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    Faunter wrote: »
    Does anyone know if that champion passive also applies to safeboxes? Does it increase the chance of finding purple stolen items from them, for example?
    In a very quick test session (20 safeboxes of various difficulty in a Cadwell's Gold zone), I've noticed no difference at all.
    Most of the time I got 2 items that are either green or blue. Less often, just 1 item that's either green or blue. Amount of gold is the same as usual.
  • QuadroTony
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    GaldorP wrote: »
    I did a bit of testing and farmed treasure chests in the AD version of Grahtwood until I had opened 100 Simple Treasure Chests with a character that had the Treasure Hunter passive from the Champion system.

    In the time it took me to find 100 Simple Chests, I've also found 45 Intermediate Chests, 14 Advanced Chests, and 5 Master Chests. I've opened 9 Hidden Treasure Chests as well (I had 2 treasure maps for the zone already, before I started).

    I did not distinguish between empty and filled soul gems just noted when I found either one in a chest.

    Here are my results:
    p7lNiha.png
    All set items have the quality they normally have when obtained from regular treasure chest in this zone (which is green). Results might be different for dolmen, dungeon, or event-triggered chests.

    Of course, I would have to do the same thing now with a character that does not have the Treasue Hunter passive and compare the results to be able to tell how exactly the passive works but I don't think I will do that. At least not right now, sorry ^^ Maybe somebody else could do it and compare their results with mine :)

    Based on my personal experience, it seems to me like the chances to find green set items and regular blue items is increased by quite a bit, but I might be wrong, this is just speculation :) I was also surprised about how many intermediate, advanced and master chests I've found (if the type of chest is different for each player the passive could affect the type of chest you find; if the type of chest is the same for everyone then, of course, that's not possible :)).

    great
    we will stay tuned
  • GaldorP
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    So, in the end, I've decided to farm another 100 simple treasure chests in the same location, with the same character, but this time without the Treasure Hunter passive :)

    Here are the results:
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    Based on these results, here's a list of how the Treasure Hunter passive increases your chance to find better items for each type of treasure chest :)

    Simple Chests
    • Chance to get a soul gem (empty of filled) is ~30% with the Treasure Hunter bonus instead of ~12% without it.
    • 30% chance to get a green set item instead of a regular green item. Without the Treasure Hunter bonus, simple chests will never include set items!
    • (Possibly an increased chance to find treasure maps.)

    Intermediate Chests
    • ~60% chance to find a green set item (with the Treasure Hunter passive) instead of ~25% chance to find a green set item (without the Treasure Hunter passive).
    • 100% chance to find a regular blue item instead of 0% chance without the passive.
    • (Possibly an increased chance to find treasure maps.)

    Advanced Chests
    • 100% chance to find a green set item instead of 40% chance.

    Master Chests
    • You will always find 2 regular blue items instead of just 1 (100% chance to find 2 blue items instead of 100% chance to find 1 blue item).

    Hidden Treasure
    • There's a chance of about 66% to find 2 green set items instead of just 1 (the chance to find at least one set item is 100% with the bonus, except for when you find a purple item; without the bonus, the chance to find 1 green set item is ~45%).
    • (The chance to get 1 purple item instead of green set items might be something that can only happen when you have the Treasure Hunter bonus.)
    • (The chance to get 1 regular green item on top of 1 or 2 green set items might be something that can only happen when you have the Treasure Hunter bonus.)

    Overall, I think this bonus is very helpful when hunting for treasure chests and it really allows you to find a lot more set items and blue items than you could normally in the same amount of time :)

    Edit: The drop info posted here is only correct for treasure chests in the second zone of each alliance (lv 15-23). I've noticed that higher level chests, for example in Coldharbour, have a much lower chance to include set items overall. Some rules, however, like the guaranteed blue item on intermediate chests, still apply.
    Edited by GaldorP on June 8, 2015 9:26PM
  • AlnilamE
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    Are you sure Unassailable drops from chests? I thought Lord's Mail was the third set that dropped from V7-10 (along with Nightshade and Soulshine)
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  • QuadroTony
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    GaldorP wrote: »
    So, in the end, I've decided to farm another 100 simple treasure chests in the same location, with the same character, but this time without the Treasure Hunter passive :)

    Here are the results:
    X0ugxT9.png

    Based on these results, here's a list of how the Treasure Hunter passive increases your chance to find better items for each type of treasure chest :)

    Simple Chests
    • Chance to get a soul gem (empty of filled) is ~30% with the Treasure Hunter bonus instead of ~12% without it.
    • 30% chance to get a green set item instead of a regular green item. Without the Treasure Hunter bonus, simple chests will never include set items!
    • (Possibly an increased chance to find treasure maps.)

    Intermediate Chests
    • ~60% chance to find a green set item (with the Treasure Hunter passive) instead of ~25% chance to find a green set item (without the Treasure Hunter passive).
    • 100% chance to find a regular blue item instead of 0% chance without the passive.
    • (Possibly an increased chance to find treasure maps.)

    Advanced Chests
    • 100% chance to find a green set item instead of 40% chance.

    Master Chests
    • You will always find 2 regular blue items instead of just 1 (100% chance to find 2 blue items instead of 100% chance to find 1 blue item).

    Hidden Treasure
    • There's a chance of about 66% to find 2 green set items instead of just 1 (the chance to find at least one set item is 100% with the bonus, except for when you find a purple item; without the bonus, the chance to find 1 green set item is ~45%).
    • (The chance to get 1 purple item instead of green set items might be something that can only happen when you have the Treasure Hunter bonus.)
    • (The chance to get 1 regular green item on top of 1 or 2 green set items might be something that can only happen when you have the Treasure Hunter bonus.)

    Overall, I think this bonus is very helpful when hunting for treasure chests and it really allows you to find a lot more set items and blue items than you could normally in the same amount of time :)

    Edit: The drop info posted here is only correct for treasure chests in the second zone of each alliance (lv 15-23). I've noticed that higher level chests, for example in Coldharbour, have a much lower chance to include set items overall. Some rules, however, like the guaranteed blue item on intermediate chests, still apply.


    thanks for the tests!!! can you please also check drop from Heavy Sacks?
  • GaldorP
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    QuadroTony wrote: »
    thanks for the tests!!! can you please also check drop from Heavy Sacks?
    I wouldn't know where to test that :) I've certainly opened over a dozen heavy sacks though and only ever got regular crafting style materials.
  • QuadroTony
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    there is alot of heavy sacks in veteran dungeons
    you can ake em and bypass all mobs if you stamina build full medium and have invisible potions etc

    or try this - 6 sacks for every campaign if you ad
    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1857451/#Comment_1857451
  • CaptainObvious
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    Found similar quality with my "Treasure Hunter" characters. Had stored up some maps in hope of finding blue v10 set items as a proof of concept, but I only found disappointment.

    A very lackluster ability especially for 75 champion points.
    Due to a typo in the system, the area was accosted by the Daedric Prince Moar Lag Brawls.
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