1.5s cast time imo

Should we only be using the cleanse morph?

im going to parrot what i have been saying.

Total Inability to remove Seige effects

Benefits = Dot stacking from seige would 100% require Blobs to spread out and avoid running into seige. Blob Effectiveness in all situations drops dramatically due to stacking becoming too dangerous when siege is present in numbers. This change would not much effect spread out randoms and small spread out groups. Purge retains important usefulnes vs player CC.

Downsides = Keep Defense becomes almost too easy, enough seige can make entry extremely hard without multi breeches. Equal Numbers games become a game of who has more siege. this change would severely punish ANY stacking. Most Noticeably, Purge becomes a mostly pointless skill as Player CC is generally not as much of a issue compaired to siege but remains able to render Player CC totally pointless vs Grouping.


Cast time...

Benefits = Zerg must move at channeled speed, and become sitting ducks somewhat, In blob vs blob purgers cannot block which is vital at times.

Downsides = the amount of purge remains the same, all you need is maybe one more person and you can still easily stack under seige like it wasnt even there. Running through a breech is still easily done by purging on the breech and running with careful movement. Against most blobs cast times have only minor downsides as anyone who has been part of a proxy bomb can attest.

Cooldown on status removal

Benefits = Very similar to unpurgable seige, With more lenience to small groups. Blobs still cannot stack under heavy or focused seige but handle 1 or 2 rare hits while moving and small groups can clear the occasional hit from seige. Player CC becomes much more useful vs Blobs. Overall the skill remains useful in most situations but is no longer exploitable to render blobs totally immune to everything but burst damage.

Downsides = Depending on the cooldown duration, can be totally ineffective. a minimum of 5 seconds would be needed. P



as you can see, Cast time actually is the least effective change.

a Internal Purge cooldown being a mostly overall beneficial change without totally rendering the skill worthless.

Making Purge totally ineffective against seige has the biggest effect vs blobs but does render the skill useless to anything but a group using it to clear out Player CC.

i honestly prefer the Internal cooldown as it is highly effective at nerfing, without totally ruining the skill.

supernico wrote: »

There are a few more skills that become very strong in large group play style. It's awesome to have someone cleansing your dots so you can forget about it and focus on other things but on the other hand its discouraging watching 20 people pissing on your breach defense because maneuvers ignores caltrops, purge spam cleanse oils, etc.

Cast time or increased cost (somewhere around maneuvers cost) would be appropriate.

Maybe "after console release™" though.

Good eye Super.

Wow...it looks like the frustration with the current blob playstyle has become almost universal.

tplink3r1 wrote: »

Make purge work like Purifying Ritual.

But then people would have to stop pressing the Steel Tornado button.

Best fix would be to make some siege ( oil catapults, lightning ballista etc) unable to be purged.

Snit wrote: »

If you limit the number of targets for purge, the result is that everyone carries it on their bar. I don't think that changes the current gameplay in Cyrodiil at all, other than limiting build options a bit.

You could be right, but a lot of builds can't afford to carry it on the bar.

Increasing the cost could also be something they do...

A smaller group can never rely on sieges to kill a bigger attacking group because basically every spot where you can place sieges, the attackers can siege you too.

Cast Time on Purge would make it completly unusable for anyone but maybe trains. Ever tried to use a channeled attack in the middle of a fight? No? Here is what happens: Interrupt, Dead. Perhaps in a trains with loads of barriers you can be save to cast it. More likely you will just outheal the siege damage tho. However for a small group, you can't use it anymore and any siege shot at you means your dead. The consequence will be to just get bigger groups until you can outheal/barrier any siege. Same goes for making sieges unpurgable. For trains it makes not too much of a difference, for smaller groups its death. Increased cost is like the most hilarious suggestion ever as it does absoletly does nothing to a train where you can just have people using Spell Symmetry + Purge if its too expensive to just spam purge. For a smaller group however...

@OP, I don't like the idea, there are single skills that apply 3 debuffs at once like Mark Target. Basically what you are saying is, when i got marked, i should not be able to get rid of the healdebuff on me....


Instead of just making suggestions how to destroy a skill, please think about the consequences this would have to different sizes of groups and what groups would do to stay maximum effective.

Best solution is reducing the target cap to force more people to use purge/increase chance for people to not get purged in a 24+ raid.

TheBull wrote: »

Suggestion, once a target is purged they can not be purged again for 4 seconds.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler

Doesn't that mean, after I purge myself, any purge used on me for 4 seconds won't have any effect? So when I have 5 negative effects and I purge, 2 get removed and I am stuck with the 3 others?

Sanct16 wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

Suggestion, once a target is purged they can not be purged again for 4 seconds.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler

Doesn't that mean, after I purge myself, any purge used on me for 4 seconds won't have any effect? So when I have 5 negative effects and I purge, 2 get removed and I am stuck with the 3 others?

Yes. You will need to choose when to purge instead of spamming it.

LEAVE PURGE ALONE. NERF SORC'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree with Garion and Sanct, what this game needs the least is to make small group play even harder against zergs.

I killed so many of my friends with Purge thinking I was doing my good deed for the day.

Good times.

please no more changes that incentivize running with even larger numbers