EP Zerg Trains in Haderus

Potenza · June 2015

Hello to the EP who are currently doing nothing but zerg trains to control Haderus.

We are NOT impressed.

Learn how to fight and stop taking advantage of a game mechanic.

Weberda · June 2015

j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »

Hello to the EP who are currently doing nothing but zerg trains to control Haderus.

We are NOT impressed.

Learn how to fight and stop taking advantage of a game mechanic.

Uh..exactly what server on you on? If you're NA then you must be new and missed the last 10 months or so where AD would show with 20+ to retake a single resource from 2 or 3 of us.

Potenza · June 2015

Weberda wrote: »

j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »

Hello to the EP who are currently doing nothing but zerg trains to control Haderus.

We are NOT impressed.

Learn how to fight and stop taking advantage of a game mechanic.

Uh..exactly what server on you on? If you're NA then you must be new and missed the last 10 months or so where AD would show with 20+ to retake a single resource from 2 or 3 of us.

I am talking about the NA server and I am not new. Maybe your new so I will explain about your complaint about taking a resource - The group may take a resource either before or after taking a keep. Its natural that the whole group would be on the resource to get the ap. It would be unfortunate for 2 or 3 enemy players to be there - who are most likely gankers anyway so so what.

Agrippa_Invisus · June 2015

Translation: It was OK for us to zerg the server for, literally, months, but we don't like more organized competition. We don't have the 15,000 AP to spend to swap our home servers to Azura's to go do trials.

Weberda · June 2015

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Translation: It was OK for us to zerg the server for, literally, months, but we don't like more organized competition. We don't have the 15,000 AP to spend to swap our home servers to Azura's to go do trials.

This thread has the potential to be more hilarious than the DC threads currently going.

j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »

Weberda wrote: »

j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »

Hello to the EP who are currently doing nothing but zerg trains to control Haderus.

We are NOT impressed.

Learn how to fight and stop taking advantage of a game mechanic.

Uh..exactly what server on you on? If you're NA then you must be new and missed the last 10 months or so where AD would show with 20+ to retake a single resource from 2 or 3 of us.

I am talking about the NA server and I am not new. Maybe your new so I will explain about your complaint about taking a resource - The group may take a resource either before or after taking a keep. Its natural that the whole group would be on the resource to get the ap. It would be unfortunate for 2 or 3 enemy players to be there - who are most likely gankers anyway so so what.

And the resource in question is the only one on the entire server that isn't yellow. Sorry but your "complaint" is sheer hypocrisy. You're saying "we like to dish it out but we can't take it". Pretty funny.

Hypertionb14_ESO · June 2015

haderus atm...

yellow guilds generally avoid that server due to the number of pugs that still think its the "ad buff server"

red is quite happy munching on disorganized yellow, and the occasional Blues also pushing Yellow (they wont touch red because they get roflmaostomped the moment they do)

the current state of Haderus control is yellow untill red wakes up and then usually 1 yellow keep for every 2blue and 3 red.

all while red is usually only having one guild online and yellow is poplocked with pugs and blue is usually all but one or 2 really good players working as a kick ass but small team.

its for similar reasons yellow guilds are bombing Thornblade. Pug servers are great AP.

CN_Daniel · June 2015

I've watched what yellow did to Azura. I find it hilarious to see them complaining about the exact same tactics they've used there.

Ghostbane · June 2015

More wine!

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Translation: It was OK for us to zerg the server for, literally, months, but we don't like more organized competition. We don't have the 15,000 AP to spend to swap our home servers to Azura's to go do trials.

Google Translate couldn't have done it better.

Weberda · June 2015

NPK Daniel wrote: »

I've watched what yellow did to Azura. I find it hilarious to see them complaining about the exact same tactics they've used there.

Yeah, and they've been doing it to Haderus since the days of Sura.

Hypertionb makes a good point about DC on Haderus though. That's a tenacious little group with a lot of guts. They'll show up where we're fighting AD and get right in the middle of it even though they're a minority. We left the inner blue keeps alone for the past week so they always had a place to start. That's not something the AD pugs would ever do.

Publius_Scipio · June 2015

Most everyone zergs. Not everyone has biceps.

Hypertionb14_ESO · June 2015

NPK Daniel wrote: »

I've watched what yellow did to Azura. I find it hilarious to see them complaining about the exact same tactics they've used there.

to be fair, so far there hasnt been the same push on Haderus as there was on Azuras.... its usually one group running and thus a single zerg blob.

not that EP doesnt have the numbers to do the same... but im pretty sure the typical "zerg blob" in Haderus is one group...

Azuras was a lot of differant guilds all zerg blobbing at once.... and only really 1 or 2 on the other factions..

Bouvin · June 2015

NPK Daniel wrote: »

I've watched what yellow did to Azura. I find it hilarious to see them complaining about the exact same tactics they've used there.

^^^^ This. And I play AD.

Left my guild because I was tired of them doing nothing but Zerg Blobbing on Azura. If one of the leaders logged off for the night, their groups would literally disintegrate because no one was willing to play in a group less than 16 people.

Now the server is a ghost town. But I guess those who wanted it got their emp!

That said, people can point the finger all they want, but the truth is the game mechanics reward zerg blobbing when they should actually discourage it.

I remember nights when we were getting 30k ap/hour and people were complaining that wasn't fast enough. I'm sorry, but small groups rarely get that, because either the servers are dead, or they just run into giant zerg blogs.. so the game really does incentivize zerging.

OdinForge · June 2015

While EP can clearly be seen as a higher population faction.

What i witnessed at Nikel on Haderus last night was beyond hilarious. Yellow clearly held higher numbers at Nikel, but for 30 minutes held at bay by two templars and some siege weapons. All yellow needed to do was group up and rush the breach, instead they floated around the breach dying until eventually more EP showed up to push them back to Roe. Learning to do anything would have applied to AD at this battle.

vortexman11 · June 2015

HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE The day EP outnumbers AD for more than an hour on Haderus is the day I'll do a PvE Trial. It's true there are alot more EP on Haderus than there was last week, but to say EP is zerging more than AD is absurd, no offence to any AD on Haderus that I love.

Weberda · June 2015

vortexman11 wrote: »

HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE The day EP outnumbers AD for more than an hour on Haderus is the day I'll do a PvE Trial. It's true there are alot more EP on Haderus than there was last week, but to say EP is zerging more than AD is absurd, no offence to any AD on Haderus that I love.

I'm pretty sure the thread was started as a joke Vort. Anybody who has played on Haderus for more than a week would see the total absurdity in it.

vortexman11 · June 2015

Weberda wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE The day EP outnumbers AD for more than an hour on Haderus is the day I'll do a PvE Trial. It's true there are alot more EP on Haderus than there was last week, but to say EP is zerging more than AD is absurd, no offence to any AD on Haderus that I love.

I'm pretty sure the thread was started as a joke Vort. Anybody who has played on Haderus for more than a week would see the total absurdity in it.

Actually, I think he may have a point, I remember one such zerg train, it was made up of 7 people the first time we managed to capture Kingscrest after almost two months of fighting at the gates or Kingscrest Lumbermill. Of course our zerg train got derailed quickly by the 70 AD that came to take it back.

And you might think Im joking right, but Im not. It was the first keep to flip red in over a month and it was quickly put under 20/20 AD siege

Weberda · June 2015

vortexman11 wrote: »

Weberda wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE The day EP outnumbers AD for more than an hour on Haderus is the day I'll do a PvE Trial. It's true there are alot more EP on Haderus than there was last week, but to say EP is zerging more than AD is absurd, no offence to any AD on Haderus that I love.

I'm pretty sure the thread was started as a joke Vort. Anybody who has played on Haderus for more than a week would see the total absurdity in it.

Actually, I think he may have a point, I remember one such zerg train, it was made up of 7 people the first time we finally managed to capture Kingscrest after almost two months of fighting at the gates or Kingscrest Lumbermill. Of course our zerg train got derailed quickly by the 70 AD that came to take it back.

.............

...You know darn well I was probably part of that 70 and ashamed of it. You don't need to go that far back in history.

Joy_Division · June 2015

vortexman11 wrote: »

HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE The day EP outnumbers AD for more than an hour on Haderus is the day I'll do a PvE Trial. It's true there are alot more EP on Haderus than there was last week, but to say EP is zerging more than AD is absurd, no offence to any AD on Haderus that I love.

you know you want to tank Atherian Archive and those axes

AhPook_Is_Here · June 2015

Joy_Division wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE The day EP outnumbers AD for more than an hour on Haderus is the day I'll do a PvE Trial. It's true there are alot more EP on Haderus than there was last week, but to say EP is zerging more than AD is absurd, no offence to any AD on Haderus that I love.

you know you want to tank Atherian Archive and those axes

Those hit boxes are bigger than some AD zergs.

Armitas · June 2015

12/10 Op delivered it all and then some.

Hypertionb14_ESO · June 2015

vortexman11 wrote: »

Weberda wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE The day EP outnumbers AD for more than an hour on Haderus is the day I'll do a PvE Trial. It's true there are alot more EP on Haderus than there was last week, but to say EP is zerging more than AD is absurd, no offence to any AD on Haderus that I love.

I'm pretty sure the thread was started as a joke Vort. Anybody who has played on Haderus for more than a week would see the total absurdity in it.

Actually, I think he may have a point, I remember one such zerg train, it was made up of 7 people the first time we managed to capture Kingscrest after almost two months of fighting at the gates or Kingscrest Lumbermill. Of course our zerg train got derailed quickly by the 70 AD that came to take it back.

And you might think Im joking right, but Im not. It was the first keep to flip red in over a month and it was quickly put under 20/20 AD siege

ignoring when you were emp and had most of the map red.. or the past few red emps who were running 2 bars all in one spot to farm the poplocked AD zergbads who wiped the moment you got near them?

both times yellow was unable to take anything untill the red group logged off.

whats absurd is how pathetic the yellows of that campaign usually are. it should be no surprise they get pissy when they suddenly get their asses handed to them.

of course thats the whole reason those red raids go into Haderus isnt it? Easy AP/Easy Emp pushes etc

Armitas · June 2015

There are only three servers to play on. Your buff server, the lag server, and their buff server. We play on had because we don't want lag, and don't want to play with every advantage. The native yellows are easy AP because they rely on every advantage rather than experience through challenging disadvantage. They are the product of their own campaign. (Not to say all)

vortexman11 · June 2015

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

Weberda wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE The day EP outnumbers AD for more than an hour on Haderus is the day I'll do a PvE Trial. It's true there are alot more EP on Haderus than there was last week, but to say EP is zerging more than AD is absurd, no offence to any AD on Haderus that I love.

I'm pretty sure the thread was started as a joke Vort. Anybody who has played on Haderus for more than a week would see the total absurdity in it.

Actually, I think he may have a point, I remember one such zerg train, it was made up of 7 people the first time we managed to capture Kingscrest after almost two months of fighting at the gates or Kingscrest Lumbermill. Of course our zerg train got derailed quickly by the 70 AD that came to take it back.

And you might think Im joking right, but Im not. It was the first keep to flip red in over a month and it was quickly put under 20/20 AD siege

ignoring when you were emp and had most of the map red.. or the past few red emps who were running 2 bars all in one spot to farm the poplocked AD zergbads who wiped the moment you got near them?

both times yellow was unable to take anything untill the red group logged off.

whats absurd is how pathetic the yellows of that campaign usually are. it should be no surprise they get pissy when they suddenly get their asses handed to them.

of course thats the whole reason those red raids go into Haderus isnt it? Easy AP/Easy Emp pushes etc

*Ignoring when I capt emp with a group of about 12 people against 2 bars of AD and sat at the gate telling the rest of EP to stop pushing DC and AD to the gates once we got scrolls.

*ignoring that I was dethroned around 4 AM to 3 bars AD with 6 EP defending after I finally went to bed after defending with 2 bars EP against 3 bars AD

*ignoring that this EP "zerg" showed up the day after I was dethroned

Emp pushes now are easy because these guilds seem to manage to get their entire 24 man raids on at once, trust me, whats happening now is completely different from last week.

The only reason the map was red when I was emp is because theres a certain AD group that waits until 3 AM - 6 AM to flip Haderus yellow yet don't PvP at any times other than that.

FENGRUSH · June 2015

vortexman11 wrote: »

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

Weberda wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE The day EP outnumbers AD for more than an hour on Haderus is the day I'll do a PvE Trial. It's true there are alot more EP on Haderus than there was last week, but to say EP is zerging more than AD is absurd, no offence to any AD on Haderus that I love.

I'm pretty sure the thread was started as a joke Vort. Anybody who has played on Haderus for more than a week would see the total absurdity in it.

Actually, I think he may have a point, I remember one such zerg train, it was made up of 7 people the first time we managed to capture Kingscrest after almost two months of fighting at the gates or Kingscrest Lumbermill. Of course our zerg train got derailed quickly by the 70 AD that came to take it back.

And you might think Im joking right, but Im not. It was the first keep to flip red in over a month and it was quickly put under 20/20 AD siege

ignoring when you were emp and had most of the map red.. or the past few red emps who were running 2 bars all in one spot to farm the poplocked AD zergbads who wiped the moment you got near them?

both times yellow was unable to take anything untill the red group logged off.

whats absurd is how pathetic the yellows of that campaign usually are. it should be no surprise they get pissy when they suddenly get their asses handed to them.

of course thats the whole reason those red raids go into Haderus isnt it? Easy AP/Easy Emp pushes etc

*Ignoring when I capt emp with a group of about 12 people against 2 bars of AD and sat at the gate telling the rest of EP to stop pushing DC and AD to the gates once we got scrolls.

*ignoring that I was dethroned around 4 AM to 3 bars AD with 6 EP defending after I finally went to bed after defending with 2 bars EP against 3 bars AD

*ignoring that this EP "zerg" showed up the day after I was dethroned

Emp pushes now are easy because these guilds seem to manage to get their entire 24 man raids on at once, trust me, whats happening now is completely different from last week, trust me.

The only reason the map was red when I was emp is because theres a certain AD group that waits until 3 AM - 6 AM to flip Haderus yellow yet don't PvP at any times other than that.

Sounds like the same people that frequent azura!

Hypertionb14_ESO · June 2015

FENGRUSH wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

Weberda wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE The day EP outnumbers AD for more than an hour on Haderus is the day I'll do a PvE Trial. It's true there are alot more EP on Haderus than there was last week, but to say EP is zerging more than AD is absurd, no offence to any AD on Haderus that I love.

I'm pretty sure the thread was started as a joke Vort. Anybody who has played on Haderus for more than a week would see the total absurdity in it.

Actually, I think he may have a point, I remember one such zerg train, it was made up of 7 people the first time we managed to capture Kingscrest after almost two months of fighting at the gates or Kingscrest Lumbermill. Of course our zerg train got derailed quickly by the 70 AD that came to take it back.

And you might think Im joking right, but Im not. It was the first keep to flip red in over a month and it was quickly put under 20/20 AD siege

ignoring when you were emp and had most of the map red.. or the past few red emps who were running 2 bars all in one spot to farm the poplocked AD zergbads who wiped the moment you got near them?

both times yellow was unable to take anything untill the red group logged off.

whats absurd is how pathetic the yellows of that campaign usually are. it should be no surprise they get pissy when they suddenly get their asses handed to them.

of course thats the whole reason those red raids go into Haderus isnt it? Easy AP/Easy Emp pushes etc

*Ignoring when I capt emp with a group of about 12 people against 2 bars of AD and sat at the gate telling the rest of EP to stop pushing DC and AD to the gates once we got scrolls.

*ignoring that I was dethroned around 4 AM to 3 bars AD with 6 EP defending after I finally went to bed after defending with 2 bars EP against 3 bars AD

*ignoring that this EP "zerg" showed up the day after I was dethroned

Emp pushes now are easy because these guilds seem to manage to get their entire 24 man raids on at once, trust me, whats happening now is completely different from last week, trust me.

The only reason the map was red when I was emp is because theres a certain AD group that waits until 3 AM - 6 AM to flip Haderus yellow yet don't PvP at any times other than that.

Sounds like the same people that frequent azura!

and sometimes those yellow groups in Thornblade.

Ghostbane · June 2015

Hey, that sounds like that time <faction/colour> showed up at <campaign> , small world!

Hypertionb14_ESO · June 2015

^dont forget the horses^

FENGRUSH · June 2015

Ghostbane wrote: »

Hey, that sounds like that time <faction/colour> showed up at <campaign> , small world!

lol yea. Although to be fair, as someone whos playing on smaller campaigns - it seems trendy that AD is taking multiple guilds to different campaigns at once together to clear the map without much effort.

Whereas EP groups guesting seem to be 1 or 2 guilds guesting strictly to collect scrolls and bait people into defensive positions solely to farm AP.

Take your pick which is worse!

Rylana · June 2015

j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »

Hello to the EP who are currently doing nothing but zerg trains to control Haderus.

We are NOT impressed.

Learn how to fight and stop taking advantage of a game mechanic.

Learn how to fight? I destroy your players daily. If not for the fact there are 5-1 odds in almost every fight, if not worse, id never lose.

Youre getting a taste of your own medicine, and frankly, the yellows on Baderus deserve it.

Cinbri · June 2015

Huh. EU Haderus is ruined coz ADvsDC zergs. At least on NA something different. Think about it as karma from EU

Ghostbane · June 2015

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

Hey, that sounds like that time <faction/colour> showed up at <campaign> , small world!

lol yea. Although to be fair, as someone whos playing on smaller campaigns - it seems trendy that AD is taking multiple guilds to different campaigns at once together to clear the map without much effort.

Whereas EP groups guesting seem to be 1 or 2 guilds guesting strictly to collect scrolls and bait people into defensive positions solely to farm AP.

Take your pick which is worse!

Personally, the first. I must never be on at the right times though.

I have only witnessed two or three times AD has rallied a pile of guilds to hop to one server. ( Two of them being to dethrone Hova for the lawls ) and potentially the other to crown someone, I think it was Healz.

Strictly guestly to disrupt normal life to farm AP gets the Ghostbane rubber stamp of approval though.