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Daggerfall NA - officially dead as a pvp presence.
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StienDeath✭✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »I think one thing that needs to be pointed out is the barrier between elitists and pugs. It is very extreme on DC, how can that be constructive in getting better quality players when the better players just laugh at the less experienced guys?
It's been said since the Dawn of this game that DC is incapable of working together. Many of us have tried helping them work together. And to put a fine point on this, last week I saw 2 large guilds claim to have a combined 5 full raids up and yet they were still unable to accomplish much. It is deeply disappointing.
you should check yo self before you reck yo self. All of the DC guilds was in command channel tonight together.
That was a fun night.. till you left us DanTired of getting trolled by ZOS MOD's ........
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Winnamine✭✭✭✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »Great job by all of DC tonight. We live! Lots of fun fighting in Azura after we got our message across to the trash talkers in chill.
We may not be the best, we may not have the most, but you cannot doubt our heart.
-NPK
Sweet Jesus, who has more?Winni
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That was a fun night.. till you left us Dan [/quote]
The gf agro is strong lol!
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CN_Daniel✭✭✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »Great job by all of DC tonight. We live! Lots of fun fighting in Azura after we got our message across to the trash talkers in chill.
We may not be the best, we may not have the most, but you cannot doubt our heart.
-NPK
Sweet Jesus, who has more?
So are we like the super zerg of the game now? lol That what you trying to say?0 -
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✭✭✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »Great job by all of DC tonight. We live! Lots of fun fighting in Azura after we got our message across to the trash talkers in chill.
We may not be the best, we may not have the most, but you cannot doubt our heart.
-NPK
Sweet Jesus, who has more?
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CN_Daniel✭✭✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »Great job by all of DC tonight. We live! Lots of fun fighting in Azura after we got our message across to the trash talkers in chill.
We may not be the best, we may not have the most, but you cannot doubt our heart.
-NPK
Sweet Jesus, who has more?
TKO ?
They do have a lot! I like fighting those guys. Good times. I like to see 48 vs 48.1 -
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✭✭✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »NPK Daniel wrote: »Great job by all of DC tonight. We live! Lots of fun fighting in Azura after we got our message across to the trash talkers in chill.
We may not be the best, we may not have the most, but you cannot doubt our heart.
-NPK
Sweet Jesus, who has more?
TKO ?
They do have a lot! I like fighting those guys. Good times. I like to see 48 vs 48.
Not sure anyone would be in game to witness how it ends.3 -
Vilestride✭✭✭✭✭You say you bring people in to learn and welcome anyone, but I see groups advertise in zones for hours a night claiming 2+ full raids and yet the map gets worse. Does DC need elitists? no, but they need elite guilds. People are going to learn much more and much faster playing in 12 man or less groups and if I took a stab at the percentage of people who prefer smaller scale fighting I'd say it'd be about 80%. How are you gonna learn anything running with 48 players behind you're back, when you can barely determine the effect you are having on a fight, you dont have to worry half as much about sustain with (being DC of course) 24 of those 48 being templars LOLOL.
and all this being said its not until elite, small and organized groups like shortbus come along that DC makes any progress. I rarely play US prime time and will admit to rarely being in the same campaign as NPK but in my experience its groups like shortbus that return the most scrolls, have the most detrimental effect on enemy zergs and capture the most keeps. This may not always seem so clear because it also happens that most players (and particularly the better ones) dont like PvDoor and even despite the 'Victory' Incentive to win campaigns, will often just seek out good fights, and this way of thinking is probably the soul reason they are better players lol.
4 man Havok groups do more damage to DC each night than 20+ man PUG groups. how can you say winning campains is a about numbers?
12 man Alacrity/Decibil groups get more siege on our keeps than hordes of AD, how can you say more is just better?
Bottom line, if you prefer running Huge groups go ahead, but dont claim its the only way to winning campains when it is obvious said guilds have less effect than smaller, better ones. I had never seen NM run more than 24 people, and if we had 4, 12 man NM groups rather than x amounts of 48 man groups, we'd win any campaign we play in....but seriously, does anyone care about winning? open field terrain fights to no campaign progress will always be the goal for me. not farming, just fun. Focus on how YOU play and YOUR guild members builds and abilities before you come call for the rest of DC to zerg it up.Edited by Vilestride on June 5, 2015 8:40AM4 -
Winnamine✭✭✭✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »NPK Daniel wrote: »Great job by all of DC tonight. We live! Lots of fun fighting in Azura after we got our message across to the trash talkers in chill.
We may not be the best, we may not have the most, but you cannot doubt our heart.
-NPK
Sweet Jesus, who has more?
So are we like the super zerg of the game now? lol That what you trying to say?
I'm saying I don't know of a guild who runs more people than yours. The same numbers, possibly, but if any one guild runs more than you do, I haven't seen it.
And yeah, TKO has to get at least an honorable mention in the list of biggest pvp guilds.Winni
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BigTone✭✭✭✭@NPK Daniel It was awesome having you all in Chill last night. Hit me up anytime you come back so we can coordinate again. Seeing you guys wipe the same EP group over and over was hilarius. When we have four strong guilds working together the way we did last night, DC is unstoppable.Big'Tone-V16 DC Sorc AR31
Sneaky'Tone-V16 DC NB AR22
Holy'Tone-V12 DC Temp
Chunky'Tone-33 DC DK (BWB beast)
Worst NB NA
Roll dodging magicka sorc
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✭NPK Daniel wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »I think one thing that needs to be pointed out is the barrier between elitists and pugs. It is very extreme on DC, how can that be constructive in getting better quality players when the better players just laugh at the less experienced guys?
It's been said since the Dawn of this game that DC is incapable of working together. Many of us have tried helping them work together. And to put a fine point on this, last week I saw 2 large guilds claim to have a combined 5 full raids up and yet they were still unable to accomplish much. It is deeply disappointing.
you should check yo self before you reck yo self. All of the DC guilds was in command channel tonight together.
All? Daniel this is exactly your problem. You say "all" and you're only speaking of NPK and HD. <sigh> As if the two most populated (quantity) guilds are all that matter. I think Eskimo's point which you havd missed again and again is smaller groups can be just as effective, perhaps maybe because they don't allow deadweight. Don't diminish their importance. Not everyone wants to sit in Ts with 100 people. Not everyone wants to run through 80 soul gems a night.
I have no idea what happened in Azura last night. But I do know before I left Chillrend-both of our two largest guilds claimed to have groups going and yet Ep crowned emp with little resistence that I saw. A lot of fun at Ash defending wave after wave of ad and ep but at no point was Ales sieged and reclaimed until it was too late. You may have numbers at your back but you lack map strats. And none of you listen to advice in zone. You simply think "we have a gazillion players ergo we knoes our $hiz!"
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wasn't just 1 comment. Im done though, you guys are so clueless it hurts.bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »EskimoBrother wrote: »
we're part of DC, the faction you happen to be talking about. How can you say that dc is full of elitist yet we have several guilds (not just the ones i listed, those were just examples!) who are willing to work with players who want to learn. Id like to hear which DC guilds you're talking about here...bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »EskimoBrother wrote: »
Don't know where you're getting this from. Both Nemesis and Shortbus have tryout guilds that ANYONE is allowed to join, and as long as they show they're willing to learn and adapt to our tactics they get to play with us. Just goes to show how clueless you and npk daniel really are when you say we turn down/don't work with new players.bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »I think one thing that needs to be pointed out is the barrier between elitists and pugs. It is very extreme on DC, how can that be constructive in getting better quality players when the better players just laugh at the less experienced guys?
You are obviously trying to start *** with NPK and me. No clue why, but it's obvious. I didn't specify you, nemesis, or shortbus. You felt the need to specify yourself.
Not sure how im the one starting *** when it was your glorious leader Daniel who said that because we enjoy running small groups, we are elitist who only care about AP farming and do not help the faction. Sorry for pointing out how stupid that is
, not everyone needs to run 48 mans to be efficient. Quality over quantity.
So what I'm reading is, you don't like ONE comment he makes, and you keep seeking an argument.
Edited by EskimoBrother on June 5, 2015 12:49PM
-Clayton Bigsby
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Takllin✭✭✭✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »NPK Daniel wrote: »Great job by all of DC tonight. We live! Lots of fun fighting in Azura after we got our message across to the trash talkers in chill.
We may not be the best, we may not have the most, but you cannot doubt our heart.
-NPK
Sweet Jesus, who has more?
So are we like the super zerg of the game now? lol That what you trying to say?
I'm saying I don't know of a guild who runs more people than yours. The same numbers, possibly, but if any one guild runs more than you do, I haven't seen it.
And yeah, TKO has to get at least an honorable mention in the list of biggest pvp guilds.
DIG comes pretty close as well.Jadokis - AD Redguard DK v16 AR 18
Jàsènn - AD Orc Templar 47 AR 10
Jessèn - AD Dunmer DK v16 AR 9 - Former Empress of Blackwater Blade
Tekllin - AD Altmer Sorcerer v16 AR 18 (Ret.)
Tekklin - AD Bosmer Nightblade v16 AR 12 (Ret.)
Jasenn - DC Imperial Templar v16 AR 18 (Ret.)
Jasènn - DC Orc Sorcerer v16 AR 15 (Ret.)1 -
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✭✭I can only speak for the EU server but the main issues I have during prime time are:- Extreme lag with roll-backs etc
- No outgoing damage
- Only fall damage and steel tornado as incoming damage
- Cant use my skills
- Cant use doors
- Cant use siege
- Game crashes
Its not even possible to pvp when the servers are pop-locked so its no strange so many chose to leave.
Edited by Septimus_Magna on June 5, 2015 1:24PMPC - EU (AD)Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
Septimus Rulanir - Orsimer Templar
Septimus Desmoru - Khajiit Necromancer
Septimus Iroh - Dunmer Dragon Knight
Septimus Thragar - Dunmer Nightblade
Septimus Jah'zar - Khajiit Nightblade
Septimus Nerox - Redguard Warden
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Mako1132✭✭✭✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »NPK Daniel wrote: »Great job by all of DC tonight. We live! Lots of fun fighting in Azura after we got our message across to the trash talkers in chill.
We may not be the best, we may not have the most, but you cannot doubt our heart.
-NPK
Sweet Jesus, who has more?
TKO ?
They do have a lot! I like fighting those guys. Good times. I like to see 48 vs 48.
Edited by Mako1132 on June 5, 2015 2:49PM2 -
CN_Daniel✭✭✭✭Let this sink in since we're SO huge:
During peak times we have 140+ online. We typically only have about 25% of our online population in pvp at once. If people talk junk we can get to about 50%. Imagine if we had close to 100% participation one night...
:-)
NOW THAT WOULD BE A ZERG.Edited by CN_Daniel on June 5, 2015 2:55PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MormondPayne_EP wrote: »Grom reminds me of Crom reminds me of Conan the Barbarian.
"Conan, what is best in life"
"Destroy your enemies. See them driven before you and hear the lamentations of the women."
er-hem...
It's "Crush your enemies... etc etc"
Sorry, I love that quote too much for it to be slightly off
I'm movie quote OCD.
If you're gonna be OCD, the Conan quote is derived from a Genghis Khan quote:Genghis Khan wrote:The greatest joy for a man is to defeat his enemies, to drive them before him, to take from them all they possess, to see those they love in tears, to ride their horses, and to hold their wives and daughters in his arms.
Although history dispute the exact translation and its recording (apparently 100 yrs after his death).
Not OCD enough. "Genghis Khan wrote:"
No he didn't
And, if this thread didn't make it obvious, DC has by far the most intra-faction drama and infighting.Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.1 -
CN_Daniel✭✭✭✭And, if this thread didn't make it obvious, DC has by far the most intra-faction drama and infighting.
There's just a particular person that seems to instigate a lot of problems for everyone. I hear she's re-rolling AD.
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Mako1132✭✭✭✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »And, if this thread didn't make it obvious, DC has by far the most intra-faction drama and infighting.
There's just a particular person that seems to instigate a lot of problems for everyone. I hear she's re-rolling AD.
The drama butterfly rarely realizes that they are in fact the drama butterfly.....2 -
Mako1132✭✭✭✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »Yeah, ask our people who know me, I'm total drama 24/7.
Rampant narcissistic posts speak for themselves.Edited by Mako1132 on June 5, 2015 3:31PM3 -
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✭NPK Daniel wrote: »And, if this thread didn't make it obvious, DC has by far the most intra-faction drama and infighting.
There's just a particular person that seems to instigate a lot of problems for everyone. I hear she's re-rolling AD.
So now you're reduced to making up lies? And you claim J instigates problems? You're huge because J recruited for you. You're huge because of J's charisma. But now all you can do is slander her. w/e, Daniel.Edited by God_flakes on June 5, 2015 3:37PM2 -
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*settles back, puts his feet up*Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
DragonKnight / Templar / Warden / Sorcerer - Vagabond
Once a General, now a Citizen
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✭And it was suggested yesterday by my GM that a bunch of us go over to the DC side to help out the imbalance (where have I heard that one before Agrippa). I don't know.......Fernwood, EP Haderus NA
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Leovolao✭✭✭✭✭God_flakes wrote: »NPK Daniel wrote: »And, if this thread didn't make it obvious, DC has by far the most intra-faction drama and infighting.
There's just a particular person that seems to instigate a lot of problems for everyone. I hear she's re-rolling AD.
So now you're reduced to making up lies? And you claim J instigates problems? You're huge because J recruited for you. You're huge because of J's charisma. But now all you can do is slander her. w/e, Daniel.
Daniel huge? Are we playing the same game?tea pot
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This is a very amusing thread. Perfect for a Friday at work. Here is what I have learned so far.....
- There is a mystery man named Grom that either has a love child or is the love child of Agrippa and looks like Artie Lange
- DC has the best small group/solo fighters in all of Tamriel
- Fengrush is not happy that Vehemence thinks a full raid is small group
- Some DC don't realize that it is the large zerg running around that allow the smaller groups to get things accomplished
- According to EP and AD, they never zerg (comical)
- NPK Daniel's zergs can't be big enough.
- Players from the EU server just realized there are bugs and lag
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✭✭✭This is a very amusing thread. Perfect for a Friday at work. Here is what I have learned so far.....
- There is a mystery man named Grom that either has a love child or is the love child of Agrippa and looks like Artie Lange
- DC has the best small group/solo fighters in all of Tamriel
- Fengrush is not happy that Vehemence thinks a full raid is small group
- Some DC don't realize that it is the large zerg running around that allow the smaller groups to get things accomplished
- According to EP and AD, they never zerg (comical)
- NPK Daniel's zergs can't be big enough.
- Players from the EU server just realized there are bugs and lag
Oh, and don't forget, everything that NPK Daniel has, or has done, he owes to a mysterious benefactor named J he seems to have forsaken.
Is J really Mr. J? The Joker?
Does that make Daniel J's 'Puddin''?Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
DragonKnight / Templar / Warden / Sorcerer - Vagabond
Once a General, now a Citizen
Former Emperor of Bloodthorn and Vivec
For Sweetrolls! FOR FIMIAN!1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD8tHh9-nbw
