More stability issues after every patch

NewBlacksmurf · June 2015

Geez I left in August due to some of these...my PC is decent at best, so yeah....lots of bugs still exists but are they bugs or bad programming? Bad developing?

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO · June 2015

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Geez I left in August due to some of these...my PC is decent at best, so yeah....lots of bugs still exists but are they bugs or bad programming? Bad developing?

Huh? These are all the same thing. Programming is developing. Bugs are errors in the code caused by mistakes made by the programmer, i.e. bad programming by a developer.

Caesar Tantalia · June 2015

The fact that you don't see any complaints in chat is not an indication that alot of people aren't having issues. I play this game almost every night, vr pledges, bit of cyr, sometimes trials, ...

One evening I have barely any issue aside from loading NPCs and stuff. Another night, bam, skill input lock, lag which isn't truly lag (fps and latency are fine). Point is - I don't complain or bug report anymore and I believe many people may be in the same boat as me.

I am going to try out a fresh install though. There might be some old code lingering.

Mayrael · June 2015

Well the most anoying thing that happends to me are game crashes. Even without any addon after 20-30 minutes of pvp in cyrodiil my game sipmly crashes. Tried to reduce video settings to minimum, didnt helped. Turning off addons doesnt help but it happends more often with them on. Ill try to rebuilt folder with personal settings as someone said. Maybe it will work... It wouldnt be so anoying if not grouping. Often i get kick from group or when im a leader of pug, i have to ask all the time to pass the leadership.

Moonshadow66 · June 2015

After Update 6 and before the last patch, I had really bad stability issues, but now it seems to be much better, not worse. Now it crashes not every +/-30 minutes anymore but once or twice a day or so. Which I can live with.

Leggi · June 2015

The most awful part: you never know when it can happen, You can play smoothly all weekend and die suffering the error 1 in the morning with 5 people online.
All the morning today was just fine and I have issues again for the last 2 hours.
It's unpredictable and misunderstandable.

NewBlacksmurf · June 2015

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Geez I left in August due to some of these...my PC is decent at best, so yeah....lots of bugs still exists but are they bugs or bad programming? Bad developing?

Huh? These are all the same thing. Programming is developing. Bugs are errors in the code caused by mistakes made by the programmer, i.e. bad programming by a developer.

Sorry it should read "bad Developer decisions or bad programing/coding decisions"

Some see those all the same but my intent was to ask if the decisions are thought to be the main cause or if the coding and programing alone is the main cause.
I recall a lot of concern around the chosen gaming engine and such way back

Jaxsun · June 2015

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Lag spikes I see mentioned, but not that much.. may be because I rarely venture intl Cyrodiil, since imo it's false PvP

This discussion is for another thread, but id still like to hear why you think its false pvp?

Nebthet78 · June 2015

Caesar Tantalia wrote: »

The fact that you don't see any complaints in chat is not an indication that alot of people aren't having issues. I play this game almost every night, vr pledges, bit of cyr, sometimes trials, ...

One evening I have barely any issue aside from loading NPCs and stuff. Another night, bam, skill input lock, lag which isn't truly lag (fps and latency are fine). Point is - I don't complain or bug report anymore and I believe many people may be in the same boat as me.

I am going to try out a fresh install though. There might be some old code lingering.

What server do you play on?

I am on the NA server and play mostly at night after 6pm Eastern Standard Time and I see people complaining about these sorts of things all the time. At least 4 times a night and in different zones as well. Especially when the lag spikes start.

However, a lot of people are beyond the point of complaining about it or even trying to show ZOS there is an issue. They have just packed their bags and left ESO for other games, like Witcher 3.

wilsonirayb16_ESO · June 2015

Leggi wrote: »

What's wrong with this game?
I have heavy lag issues even in PvE, even in the morning. I have tonns of lag spikes, snips tucks, abilities not working.
And it gets worser and worser with every patch.
The game can't be named stable.

And that's not my issue, I've changed PC and 3 cities.

I hate console launch and I hope it'll be fine and ZOS will tun their attention to PC game AT LAST.

When I came back to the game, I thought the weapon swap and general combat had perked up a bit - not so lethargic. Then after several patches it felt like beta again.

So not sure, but I do get super annoyed when I have to keep looking down at my hotbar to ensure it properly swapped my weapons. I get further annoyed when my brain and hands do the work and the game just gives me the finger. I end up casting something I didn't tell it to.

drschplatt · June 2015

I agree that the lag is much, much worse after the recent update, but I can't blame ZOS yet because I haven't gone through and sorted out my addons to make sure there isn't a conflict. I will say that the shooting start ultimate no longer takes a giant lag dump on my system every time it's used now. I can actually see the animation and things keep moving instead of freezing up.

I sat at 600+ latency then whole time I played PVE last night. Before the patch it hovered around 250 - 300 for me being in Asia. I'll need to start going through addons.

mulv · June 2015

totally agree with all the above, the lag is horrendous.
I was getting 23k latency last night, so impossible to play. I thought it may be my end - so looked at that, nope it was the game.
I gave up eventually.
Hope it's better tonight!! It really is strange the way this happens at random!!

Aneima · June 2015

I honestly hate this games patches. I've already ran repairs in the past and even reinstalled this game in it's entirely only to run into another issue later on. I never use addons. I keep my system up to date with the latest drivers etc. Just yesterday I did Mondays patch and now my game has no sound..lol. But hey whatever no big deal I just go play one of another 4 mmorpgs that I play all on the same computer and guess what? They all work fine even after updates. Only game I have problems with is ESO.

wrlifeboil · June 2015

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Nebthet78 wrote: »

I They have no idea what in the world they are doing when they are putting patches up.

@Nebthet , first things first, fixed it for you.

Two patches ago, I noticed enemies were starting to move themselves through walls and locked cell doors and while they were able to attack you, you would not be able to attack them. I got lucky with this guy and was able to kill him today.

Yeah, that's been ongoing for a long time. The invisible attack-free barriers are apparently one-way only, as they generally have no issue killing you.

We all like to think we are awesome and powerful, but I just can't believe my DK is so OP the only way for enemies to flee is to levitate.

They are so good they can even attack me while levitating in the air. I wish I had that ability.

It's because your the wrong class, mate. If you were Sorc you could do it with ease. Just login:

I give you "SORC: Greater Necromantic Leviation."(In case you can't see it, that's me about 30' above the banker in Vulkel Guard. The death thing is merely a technicality.)

A couple of my other characters tried it, but they just end up in the new DLC Adventure zone, the mire under the effing city:If it continues to happen, I'm going to send feedback recommending they institute a new slash command /StuckAgain.

I even get this strange one a few times where almost every weapon in my inventory is listed in red and I cannot use, even though I am the required level to be able to use it. It happens with armor as well.

Now this one's different. I get the inverse of that. My VR14 w basically every craft, skill, and passive morphed and maxed, cannot craft armor or weapons...Not even a Level 1 (not VR1) dagger or boots.

Have the mats, have the required skills - they even highlight and let me add more to up the level/value. No option to create ever comes up.

I can make you some soup, and add it to a vial that will give you three different potion effects. If it's too hot, I can even add a Legendary Glyph of soup cooling.

Just don't ask me to make you a spoon.

Beyond that, I ran with a total of 6 people yesterday. Three of them crashed 5 times in a matter of hours, one getting stuck in a moving forward animation. We considered having her bronzed.

This is beyond ridiculous at this point. Looking at the shear size of the patch notes and the number of long term things they fixed, there is absolutely no reason for these kinds of things.

And, to save all of you the trouble, it's not my video card or the machine. I rebooted my router, changed the batteries on my mouse. I even reversed the network cable between my computer and router, you know, just in case I had them plugged into the wrong ends... Figure I'd save CS the trouble of asking me.

I'd guess that most players have not encountered the same problems to that extent. I don't have a high end system (i5-4690, 16gb ram), my routing to ZOS's server in Texas is more than 2k miles and I don't have the problems you've encountered.

Recently I've even played some characters on the EU server which is more than 5k miles away and I haven't run into the problems that you have.

So it's probably your hardware or your isp routing.

coryevans_3b14_ESO · June 2015

leshpar wrote: »

Funny, I haven't had any issues at all. I doubt I'm the only one. Noone in zone chat was complaining about crashes or stability or lag today. Noone.

I wish i had a meme handy of the hear no evil/speak no evil/see no evil monkeys. It's appropriate here. Any help?

charley222 · June 2015

this is really a joke lol all the bug from release 1year 1/2 ago are back , good job to code the game lolol
better to laugh

welcome to eso live , ask us anything lolol
i will dont ask to much just fix the game

still waiting after 1 1/2 year

Caesar Tantalia · June 2015

Nebthet78 wrote: »

What server do you play on?

I am on the NA server and play mostly at night after 6pm Eastern Standard Time and I see people complaining about these sorts of things all the time. At least 4 times a night and in different zones as well. Especially when the lag spikes start.

However, a lot of people are beyond the point of complaining about it or even trying to show ZOS there is an issue. They have just packed their bags and left ESO for other games, like Witcher 3.

NA server - mostly betweem 10pm - 2am EST. Maybe I just don't notice anymore (the complaints that is).

Moonshadow66 · June 2015

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

After Update 6 and before the last patch, I had really bad stability issues, but now it seems to be much better, not worse. Now it crashes not every +/-30 minutes anymore but once or twice a day or so. Which I can live with.

I have to revise my posting... since yesterday, it's again the hell on earth. The crash rate was a bit higher, but today it was also freezing twice within not even 5 minutes. In my case, the memory NEVER releases the excess when this happens, I only can forcequit the game in the taskmanager and restart the whole thing.

What I also noticed since yesterday is that the fps drops randomly, more than ever. While doing the Northpoint quest about 2 hours ago, everything worked fine and I could move around like normal, and the moment I came out of the castle to turn in the quest, it dropped to under 10 (TEN!) and stayed like this until I later restarted due to a crash. The framerate was never in a high range on my end, but at least I could move without getting a headache. Now I almost need a bucket when I keep watching this misery on the screen.

Edit: the fps drop this time (compared to it was before) you have to imagine like tiny mini-freezes every few seconds, so the actual framerate drops as well. This is not caused by the graphics card and the like, I know the difference. Also my internet connection couldn't be any better.
It's "the damn game"... (not MY words, if you know what I mean...)

Jaxsun · June 2015

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

After Update 6 and before the last patch, I had really bad stability issues, but now it seems to be much better, not worse. Now it crashes not every +/-30 minutes anymore but once or twice a day or so. Which I can live with.

I have to revise my posting... since yesterday, it's again the hell on earth. The crash rate was a bit higher, but today it was also freezing twice within not even 5 minutes. In my case, the memory NEVER releases the excess when this happens, I only can forcequit the game in the taskmanager and restart the whole thing.

What I also noticed since yesterday is that the fps drops randomly, more than ever. While doing the Northpoint quest about 2 hours ago, everything worked fine and I could move around like normal, and the moment I came out of the castle to turn in the quest, it dropped to under 10 (TEN!) and stayed like this until I later restarted due to a crash. The framerate was never in a high range on my end, but at least I could move without getting a headache. Now I almost need a bucket when I keep watching this misery on the screen.

Yep, I've played since "launch" last April and I have decided, this game blows.

Moonshadow66 · June 2015

Jaxsun wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

After Update 6 and before the last patch, I had really bad stability issues, but now it seems to be much better, not worse. Now it crashes not every +/-30 minutes anymore but once or twice a day or so. Which I can live with.

I have to revise my posting... since yesterday, it's again the hell on earth. The crash rate was a bit higher, but today it was also freezing twice within not even 5 minutes. In my case, the memory NEVER releases the excess when this happens, I only can forcequit the game in the taskmanager and restart the whole thing.

What I also noticed since yesterday is that the fps drops randomly, more than ever. While doing the Northpoint quest about 2 hours ago, everything worked fine and I could move around like normal, and the moment I came out of the castle to turn in the quest, it dropped to under 10 (TEN!) and stayed like this until I later restarted due to a crash. The framerate was never in a high range on my end, but at least I could move without getting a headache. Now I almost need a bucket when I keep watching this misery on the screen.

Yep, I've played since "launch" last April and I have decided, this game blows.

Pre-launch here, same thing..

SeptimusDova · June 2015

Pre launch as well. I can say we are regressing and not progressing. But wait we have a crown store now.

Moonshadow66 · June 2015

SeptimusDova wrote: »

Pre launch as well. I can say we are regressing and not progressing. But wait we have a crown store now.

Oh, right, the Crown Store.
This needs to be celebrated. Let's have some mead.

SeptimusDova · June 2015

And Skooma ! oh wait they took the Skooma away. And the Moon Sugar. One thing that was concrete in lore and they took them away.. FFS. I hope they all get traffic tickets and try to run...

Leggi · June 2015

Tired of this piece of bad code. Can't even play for an hour without any issues.
Can't login for hours. Don't even get error 1 sometimes: just hear the sound of it and still have loading screen.

Can't play today again.

What's wrong, ZOS?