Hourly bandwidth usage too high - this year

nine9six · June 2015

I've played ESO while tethered to my cell phone while visiting family, and the Tethering App has a Network Meter on it. I've had all-day game sessions this way, and it hardly uses any data.

FWIW.

Pallmor · June 2015

Just curious, where are you guys at where there are such low bandwidth caps? Do you have satellite internet or live out in the country or something? My cellphone cap is almost as much as your home cap. Most people (in the U.S. at least) have a home cap in the hundreds of GB.

HalloweenWeed · June 2015

ThePonzzz wrote: »

Wow, 70 hours a week is a lot. Your add-ons that check on data every 30 to 120 seconds (Like Master Merchant) are going to eat up a lot more resources, but it shouldn't be adding a lot to bandwidth. I've only approached 10MB/h in large grouping situations. Solo content I barely climb over 2MB/h though. Not sure what to tell you. Only having 17GB a month is pretty bananas. My household uses over 200GB a month, and that's just 2 of us.

During many of the times I was monitoring my bandwidth, I was PvPing in Cyrodiil, and/or grouped in dungeons. Actually, MM is set (by default) to check on store sales every 5 minutes, but perhaps it checks some other things with the frequency you suggest, IDK.

I can only dream of such bandwidth as long as we keep this house that presently won't sell for anywhere near as much as we owe on it - so we are trapped here, to sell would mean immediate financial ruin. The cable Co. will not come down our road (this far), and the phone Co. does not offer any faster service than what we have. Yes, I wish ppl would do something about that, make them upgrade/update, but that's just not happening - outside big cities. They seem to have become complacent nationwide, particularly in the rural areas like I live in. Maybe if the gov't allowed competition we would end up with better service, but no, nobody else can enter the cable nor phone market, the gov't don't allow it.

HalloweenWeed · June 2015

Pallmor wrote: »

Just curious, where are you guys at where there are such low bandwidth caps? Do you have satellite internet or live out in the country or something? My cellphone cap is almost as much as your home cap. Most people (in the U.S. at least) have a home cap in the hundreds of GB.

Yes, I have Satellite Internet service. The phone Co. don't offer high-speed Internet right here, and the cable Co. won't bring it this far down the road. Terrible lag, 1-2sec. in-game. Ping times >900ms. Tried turning on the in-game ping meter once, it stayed at a constant 999 and never changed. Apparently it doesn't indicate higher ping times. I am extremely glad that ESO is playable with our lag, we have enjoyed it immensely. We get 400KBps download speed peak ("3Mbps" advertised speed, Bytes vs. bits). Upload speed is dismal at less than 10KBps. FYI.

nimander99 · June 2015

I have high speed cable with 300gig limit (which I just found out about) and I exceed it every month, ESO is a major part of that... so I'm spending an extra 10$ in overage fees which is b.s!

HalloweenWeed · June 2015

nine9six wrote: »

I've played ESO while tethered to my cell phone while visiting family, and the Tethering App has a Network Meter on it. I've had all-day game sessions this way, and it hardly uses any data.

FWIW.

I tried that once, but our cell reception is also very bad here. Calls are sometimes dropped. They supposedly improved cell tower reception here just over two years ago. Thought that maybe I could game without much lag that way, but alas, the connection was just way too bad. I couldn't even keep a continuous connection, and I tried it with the receiver all over the house in all different spots. Web browsing wasn't even reliable, no matter where I put the receiver/hotspot.

nine9six · June 2015

I guess what I don't understand...is what part of ESO is using up all of your allotted data?

The little packets that are transmitted from your computer, to the server, and then back, aren't really large. If you were Live Streaming, or something of that nature, I could understand. But I can't fathom ESO using that much data. As I've said, I've played MANY times via my Cell Phone since launch, and I doubt in that entire time it's used 1GB.

Just trying to help...in some way or another...I'm not trying to be a jack-ass.

*EDIT*

I just saw you use MM. Perhaps that is causing it? I wasn't using that when I was tethered, though I use it now...so next time on the road I'll be using it.

ThePonzzz · June 2015

HalloweenWeed wrote: »

ThePonzzz wrote: »

Wow, 70 hours a week is a lot. Your add-ons that check on data every 30 to 120 seconds (Like Master Merchant) are going to eat up a lot more resources, but it shouldn't be adding a lot to bandwidth. I've only approached 10MB/h in large grouping situations. Solo content I barely climb over 2MB/h though. Not sure what to tell you. Only having 17GB a month is pretty bananas. My household uses over 200GB a month, and that's just 2 of us.

During many of the times I was monitoring my bandwidth, I was PvPing in Cyrodiil, and/or grouped in dungeons. Actually, MM is set (by default) to check on store sales every 5 minutes, but perhaps it checks some other things with the frequency you suggest, IDK.

I can only dream of such bandwidth as long as we keep this house that presently won't sell for anywhere near as much as we owe on it - so we are trapped here, to sell would mean immediate financial ruin. The cable Co. will not come down our road (this far), and the phone Co. does not offer any faster service than what we have. Yes, I wish ppl would do something about that, make them upgrade/update, but that's just not happening - outside big cities. They seem to have become complacent nationwide, particularly in the rural areas like I live in. Maybe if the gov't allowed competition we would end up with better service, but no, nobody else can enter the cable nor phone market, the gov't don't allow it.

Cyrodiil, especially big battles, will have much higher bandwidth usage. If you roll with a zerg, that's a big competent. Good luck at getting some official answers on ways to remedy this though.

Samadhi · June 2015

Pallmor wrote: »

Just curious, where are you guys at where there are such low bandwidth caps? Do you have satellite internet or live out in the country or something? My cellphone cap is almost as much as your home cap. Most people (in the U.S. at least) have a home cap in the hundreds of GB.

Satellite net, way out in the country in Canada.
Across the road from my driveway is a woodland area, and then just up the road is protected marshland and unfarmed prairie.

Robbmrp · June 2015

My bet is that update 1.6 is the culprit. The changes that were implemented then seemed to double a lot of system/internet usage. Memory being used was almost doubled due to changes they made. They could have some bad game code causing memory leaks that are also affecting downloads.

The_Drexill · June 2015

Patch sizes are definitely a problem for me. I've noticed myself exceeding my cap, and I imagine it's partially because of "small" 3 gig patches every time they fix a quest text. Never had that with other MMO's... I think this team is unsure of how to compress things correctly or something. I don't know, I'm not a computer surgeon.

wrlifeboil · June 2015

In the old days (last year), you could copy ESO to a thumb drive and then copy the files to another PC and play the fully updated game on that PC. This was very convenient if you had characters on both the NA and EU megaservers (before the EU megaserver was moved to Germany).

Then ZOS decided to 'improve' the installer.

Now if you play the game on different PCs, you have to upgrade each client, NA and EU, separately. Double the download and time wasted. Pretty obvious that they didn't look at the process from a user perspective.

Milktray · June 2015

HalloweenWeed wrote: »

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

Every Monday, bring computer to a Starbucks.

Our computers are big, and weigh about 20 lbs. each (mine is water-cooled). Plus our only monitors are 24". Not feasible. But we do have an alternate method of downloading, which I should've reverted to today. But since in the past the posted patch sizes have been a little more than the actual that I seen, I thought maybe we could do it. I was wrong.

We can download elsewhere, and copy the files to our computers. It is quite an inconvenience, and one of us might get into trouble for it someday - perhaps even making our employment in jeopardy. We've done this several times before.

Ojustaboo wrote: »

You could patch one PC and copy files to the other to save you a bit

Yeah we've been doing that since Beta over a year ago. We're used to the methods to reduce download bandwidth, and I am what you would call a "power user," or perhaps even a "computer geek." Please keep giving your suggestions like this though, you could help other people with suggestions like this.

Power User? Computer Geek? High End PC's .. yet you cant afford a decent bandwidth limit?

Paulington · June 2015

Milktray wrote: »

HalloweenWeed wrote: »

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

Every Monday, bring computer to a Starbucks.

Our computers are big, and weigh about 20 lbs. each (mine is water-cooled). Plus our only monitors are 24". Not feasible. But we do have an alternate method of downloading, which I should've reverted to today. But since in the past the posted patch sizes have been a little more than the actual that I seen, I thought maybe we could do it. I was wrong.

We can download elsewhere, and copy the files to our computers. It is quite an inconvenience, and one of us might get into trouble for it someday - perhaps even making our employment in jeopardy. We've done this several times before.

Ojustaboo wrote: »

You could patch one PC and copy files to the other to save you a bit

Yeah we've been doing that since Beta over a year ago. We're used to the methods to reduce download bandwidth, and I am what you would call a "power user," or perhaps even a "computer geek." Please keep giving your suggestions like this though, you could help other people with suggestions like this.

Power User? Computer Geek? High End PC's .. yet you cant afford a decent bandwidth limit?

You do realise not everyone lives in lovely urban settlements with fantastic connectivity? As soon as you go out of "major" cities broadband speed is lacking and due to the market being essentially monopolised by one company (usually) they charge out the ass for bandwidth.

For example I live in the suburbs and get unlimited 150Mbps download with ~20Mbps upload but if you go a few miles further out from the suburbs you're basically stuck with 10Mbps broadband with 25GB data caps.

The OP has clearly said he use satellite internet due to not having any reliable cable connections where his house is and satellite internet is the worst of them all for price and data caps.

If anything it's a failure of proper due diligence when buying a house to have it in a place with good broadband but this if often overlooked or even not particularly cared about until life circumstances change.

There is a lot more to it that "why are you so cheap?".

wrlifeboil · June 2015

Robbmrp wrote: »

My bet is that update 1.6 is the culprit. The changes that were implemented then seemed to double a lot of system/internet usage. Memory being used was almost doubled due to changes they made. They could have some bad game code causing memory leaks that are also affecting downloads.

Not really. It was baked into ESO from the beginning. Their level of technology is like how WoW used to be about 6-7 years ago and the installer reflects that. WoW started getting more modular around WotLK and now the maintenance patches are hardly noticeable (the major content patches are still pretty huge).

Where ZOS is still has not caught up to even WoW 2006, BC era is with pre-patches. Even back then, WoW's installer/launcher uploaded stubs which contained part of the upcoming patch. This allowed you to avoid downloading 100% of the patch on patch day.

gard · June 2015

Milktray wrote: »

Power User? Computer Geek? High End PC's .. yet you cant afford a decent bandwidth limit?

Where's the "opposite of insightful" button?

Robbmrp · June 2015

HalloweenWeed wrote: »

Pallmor wrote: »

Just curious, where are you guys at where there are such low bandwidth caps? Do you have satellite internet or live out in the country or something? My cellphone cap is almost as much as your home cap. Most people (in the U.S. at least) have a home cap in the hundreds of GB.

Yes, I have Satellite Internet service. The phone Co. don't offer high-speed Internet right here, and the cable Co. won't bring it this far down the road. Terrible lag, 1-2sec. in-game. Ping times >900ms. Tried turning on the in-game ping meter once, it stayed at a constant 999 and never changed. Apparently it doesn't indicate higher ping times. I am extremely glad that ESO is playable with our lag, we have enjoyed it immensely. We get 400KBps download speed peak ("3Mbps" advertised speed, Bytes vs. bits). Upload speed is dismal at less than 10KBps. FYI.

Milktray wrote: »

HalloweenWeed wrote: »

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

Every Monday, bring computer to a Starbucks.

Our computers are big, and weigh about 20 lbs. each (mine is water-cooled). Plus our only monitors are 24". Not feasible. But we do have an alternate method of downloading, which I should've reverted to today. But since in the past the posted patch sizes have been a little more than the actual that I seen, I thought maybe we could do it. I was wrong.

We can download elsewhere, and copy the files to our computers. It is quite an inconvenience, and one of us might get into trouble for it someday - perhaps even making our employment in jeopardy. We've done this several times before.

Ojustaboo wrote: »

You could patch one PC and copy files to the other to save you a bit

Yeah we've been doing that since Beta over a year ago. We're used to the methods to reduce download bandwidth, and I am what you would call a "power user," or perhaps even a "computer geek." Please keep giving your suggestions like this though, you could help other people with suggestions like this.

Power User? Computer Geek? High End PC's .. yet you cant afford a decent bandwidth limit?

Umm, you must have missed this quote.... He never said he couldn't afford it, no ISP will get it to them other than Satellite.....

HalloweenWeed wrote: »

Pallmor wrote: »

Just curious, where are you guys at where there are such low bandwidth caps? Do you have satellite internet or live out in the country or something? My cellphone cap is almost as much as your home cap. Most people (in the U.S. at least) have a home cap in the hundreds of GB.

Yes, I have Satellite Internet service. The phone Co. don't offer high-speed Internet right here, and the cable Co. won't bring it this far down the road. Terrible lag, 1-2sec. in-game. Ping times >900ms. Tried turning on the in-game ping meter once, it stayed at a constant 999 and never changed. Apparently it doesn't indicate higher ping times. I am extremely glad that ESO is playable with our lag, we have enjoyed it immensely. We get 400KBps download speed peak ("3Mbps" advertised speed, Bytes vs. bits). Upload speed is dismal at less than 10KBps. FYI.

wrlifeboil · June 2015

Robbmrp wrote: »

HalloweenWeed wrote: »

Pallmor wrote: »

Just curious, where are you guys at where there are such low bandwidth caps? Do you have satellite internet or live out in the country or something? My cellphone cap is almost as much as your home cap. Most people (in the U.S. at least) have a home cap in the hundreds of GB.

Yes, I have Satellite Internet service. The phone Co. don't offer high-speed Internet right here, and the cable Co. won't bring it this far down the road. Terrible lag, 1-2sec. in-game. Ping times >900ms. Tried turning on the in-game ping meter once, it stayed at a constant 999 and never changed. Apparently it doesn't indicate higher ping times. I am extremely glad that ESO is playable with our lag, we have enjoyed it immensely. We get 400KBps download speed peak ("3Mbps" advertised speed, Bytes vs. bits). Upload speed is dismal at less than 10KBps. FYI.

Milktray wrote: »

HalloweenWeed wrote: »

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

Every Monday, bring computer to a Starbucks.

Our computers are big, and weigh about 20 lbs. each (mine is water-cooled). Plus our only monitors are 24". Not feasible. But we do have an alternate method of downloading, which I should've reverted to today. But since in the past the posted patch sizes have been a little more than the actual that I seen, I thought maybe we could do it. I was wrong.

We can download elsewhere, and copy the files to our computers. It is quite an inconvenience, and one of us might get into trouble for it someday - perhaps even making our employment in jeopardy. We've done this several times before.

Ojustaboo wrote: »

You could patch one PC and copy files to the other to save you a bit

Yeah we've been doing that since Beta over a year ago. We're used to the methods to reduce download bandwidth, and I am what you would call a "power user," or perhaps even a "computer geek." Please keep giving your suggestions like this though, you could help other people with suggestions like this.

Power User? Computer Geek? High End PC's .. yet you cant afford a decent bandwidth limit?

Umm, you must have missed this quote.... He never said he couldn't afford it, no ISP will get it to them other than Satellite.....

HalloweenWeed wrote: »

Pallmor wrote: »

Just curious, where are you guys at where there are such low bandwidth caps? Do you have satellite internet or live out in the country or something? My cellphone cap is almost as much as your home cap. Most people (in the U.S. at least) have a home cap in the hundreds of GB.

Yes, I have Satellite Internet service. The phone Co. don't offer high-speed Internet right here, and the cable Co. won't bring it this far down the road. Terrible lag, 1-2sec. in-game. Ping times >900ms. Tried turning on the in-game ping meter once, it stayed at a constant 999 and never changed. Apparently it doesn't indicate higher ping times. I am extremely glad that ESO is playable with our lag, we have enjoyed it immensely. We get 400KBps download speed peak ("3Mbps" advertised speed, Bytes vs. bits). Upload speed is dismal at less than 10KBps. FYI.

To be honest, I don't feel that badly for satellite users. Satellite Internet usually means rural or exurb. There is a quality of life tradeoff there that many would gladly make if they had the means or opportunity.

Milktray · June 2015

Paulington wrote: »

Milktray wrote: »

HalloweenWeed wrote: »

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

Every Monday, bring computer to a Starbucks.

Our computers are big, and weigh about 20 lbs. each (mine is water-cooled). Plus our only monitors are 24". Not feasible. But we do have an alternate method of downloading, which I should've reverted to today. But since in the past the posted patch sizes have been a little more than the actual that I seen, I thought maybe we could do it. I was wrong.

We can download elsewhere, and copy the files to our computers. It is quite an inconvenience, and one of us might get into trouble for it someday - perhaps even making our employment in jeopardy. We've done this several times before.

Ojustaboo wrote: »

You could patch one PC and copy files to the other to save you a bit

Yeah we've been doing that since Beta over a year ago. We're used to the methods to reduce download bandwidth, and I am what you would call a "power user," or perhaps even a "computer geek." Please keep giving your suggestions like this though, you could help other people with suggestions like this.

Power User? Computer Geek? High End PC's .. yet you cant afford a decent bandwidth limit?

You do realise not everyone lives in lovely urban settlements with fantastic connectivity? As soon as you go out of "major" cities broadband speed is lacking and due to the market being essentially monopolised by one company (usually) they charge out the ass for bandwidth.

For example I live in the suburbs and get unlimited 150Mbps download with ~20Mbps upload but if you go a few miles further out from the suburbs you're basically stuck with 10Mbps broadband with 25GB data caps.

The OP has clearly said he use satellite internet due to not having any reliable cable connections where his house is and satellite internet is the worst of them all for price and data caps.

If anything it's a failure of proper due diligence when buying a house to have it in a place with good broadband but this if often overlooked or even not particularly cared about until life circumstances change.

There is a lot more to it that "why are you so cheap?".

BTW .. i never said about being cheap

If you buy high end gaming pc's but make do with (for needed use) sub standard bandwith, there's a slight miss from 'Power User' 'Pc geek'

i'd have connections via seperate companies to handle the limit

As has been said, if you care about your internet speed, bandwidth etc etc .. when moving you'll at least ask

Lets see, last provider Sky, was 3mb max line speed but was lucky if it got 1, i think Sky's limit then was 40gb .. now i use Netflix, various mmo's, beta's

So i went over the 40gb limit a few times but that's running 3 mmo's each day, Netflix etc etc

I moved, checked first the various places and internet, default once again Sky but the 3mb Max was well undereven half a meg at fastest. I moved to an area supplied by Virgin Media and instantly switched to them on minimum 50mb line, with no restriction on usage.

Then upgraded to 100mb, 125mb, 152mb

It's about sacrifice, i 'could' have a sh*t hot pc but would have to forego the lovely fast internet i now have, so sacrifice on pc to keep downloads lovely and short. Area serviced by two buses, they have now cancelled both lolol, live at least 3 miles from nearest bus stop i know and can't drive.

It was more meant about sacrifice .. OP has sacrificed Internet to get area i'm guessing they desire and faster pc's

I have a mate who's got so many PC qualifications I don't think there's room on his wall for them, whenever he moves he checks for available suppliers, bandwith speeds, users experiences with those providers, has room's full of PC's, at least two different suppliers as well as one for Business Use, PC's (well some) control the house, security system, CCTV etc etc and i think all but one are connected. And he is adding more .. now THAT is what i see as a power user and one who makes sure all the boxes for what he needs are met more than adequately.

But he earns a ton, has two jobs plus his own 2 companies and can afford it all (lucky sod) his sacrifices tho is time.

It also depends how much you want something, like i said if i was in their boat i'd have 2 suppliers

And i live somewhat out of the way, the gas pipes don't reach to where i live, everything has to be electric only, Virgin has good coverage tho so i'm lucky that it gets to my property (also live near the box)

Everyone has different priorites

DaveMoeDee · June 2015

wrlifeboil wrote: »

Robbmrp wrote: »

HalloweenWeed wrote: »

Pallmor wrote: »

Just curious, where are you guys at where there are such low bandwidth caps? Do you have satellite internet or live out in the country or something? My cellphone cap is almost as much as your home cap. Most people (in the U.S. at least) have a home cap in the hundreds of GB.

Yes, I have Satellite Internet service. The phone Co. don't offer high-speed Internet right here, and the cable Co. won't bring it this far down the road. Terrible lag, 1-2sec. in-game. Ping times >900ms. Tried turning on the in-game ping meter once, it stayed at a constant 999 and never changed. Apparently it doesn't indicate higher ping times. I am extremely glad that ESO is playable with our lag, we have enjoyed it immensely. We get 400KBps download speed peak ("3Mbps" advertised speed, Bytes vs. bits). Upload speed is dismal at less than 10KBps. FYI.

Milktray wrote: »

HalloweenWeed wrote: »

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

Every Monday, bring computer to a Starbucks.

Our computers are big, and weigh about 20 lbs. each (mine is water-cooled). Plus our only monitors are 24". Not feasible. But we do have an alternate method of downloading, which I should've reverted to today. But since in the past the posted patch sizes have been a little more than the actual that I seen, I thought maybe we could do it. I was wrong.

We can download elsewhere, and copy the files to our computers. It is quite an inconvenience, and one of us might get into trouble for it someday - perhaps even making our employment in jeopardy. We've done this several times before.

Ojustaboo wrote: »

You could patch one PC and copy files to the other to save you a bit

Yeah we've been doing that since Beta over a year ago. We're used to the methods to reduce download bandwidth, and I am what you would call a "power user," or perhaps even a "computer geek." Please keep giving your suggestions like this though, you could help other people with suggestions like this.

Power User? Computer Geek? High End PC's .. yet you cant afford a decent bandwidth limit?

Umm, you must have missed this quote.... He never said he couldn't afford it, no ISP will get it to them other than Satellite.....

HalloweenWeed wrote: »

Pallmor wrote: »

Just curious, where are you guys at where there are such low bandwidth caps? Do you have satellite internet or live out in the country or something? My cellphone cap is almost as much as your home cap. Most people (in the U.S. at least) have a home cap in the hundreds of GB.

Yes, I have Satellite Internet service. The phone Co. don't offer high-speed Internet right here, and the cable Co. won't bring it this far down the road. Terrible lag, 1-2sec. in-game. Ping times >900ms. Tried turning on the in-game ping meter once, it stayed at a constant 999 and never changed. Apparently it doesn't indicate higher ping times. I am extremely glad that ESO is playable with our lag, we have enjoyed it immensely. We get 400KBps download speed peak ("3Mbps" advertised speed, Bytes vs. bits). Upload speed is dismal at less than 10KBps. FYI.

To be honest, I don't feel that badly for satellite users. Satellite Internet usually means rural or exurb. There is a quality of life tradeoff there that many would gladly make if they had the means or opportunity.

It would be nice to not have to pay the premium to live in the city but there is too much that I am not willing to give up.

Hypertionb14_ESO · June 2015

this is likley the cause of the increase in lag in PvP. the servers might be able to handle the data, but that much network traffic eventually is too much.

Resipsa131 · June 2015

On a serious note; have you considered getting a commercial account in increase your usage? I did that and it about 20 bu
CDs more but worth it and I get faster speed so my kids can watch Netflix I can play and the wife can stream video too.

Resipsa131 · June 2015

On a serious note; have you considered getting a commercial account in increase your usage? I did that and it about 20 bu
CDs more but worth it and I get faster speed so my kids can watch Netflix I can play and the wife can stream video too.

leshpar · June 2015

Why does anyone have download limits on their internet these days? I mean, I guess I do too, but mine is 300 GB per month. This isn't attainable by me and my soulmate so I don't consider myself having a limit.

My opinion is to switch ISPs to one that doesn't have a limit.

wrlifeboil · June 2015

leshpar wrote: »

Why does anyone have download limits on their internet these days? I mean, I guess I do too, but mine is 300 GB per month. This isn't attainable by me and my soulmate so I don't consider myself having a limit.

My opinion is to switch ISPs to one that doesn't have a limit.

In America, much of the population is usually limited to two choices of Internet and one choice is often DSL over copper. The large cable companies in the U.S. tacitly agree not to directly compete against each other so they can maximize their profits.

That's one reason why while the U.S. has among the highest prices for Internet access in the world, typical download/upload speeds are middle of the pack at best.

Sunver · June 2015

Putting limits on the internet usage should be banned in EU/USA.

wrlifeboil · June 2015

Sunver wrote: »

Putting limits on the internet usage should be banned in EU/USA.

Internet access isn't a necessity, say the corporate interests. They hire lobbyists to convince the government that it doesn't have the right to regulate the pricing of Internet service. So the government hasn't done much to regular price or access of Internet service like it did with telephone service 75 years ago in the U.S.

The Asian countries take a different approach. In many countries, their governments believe Internet access is so essential for growth that they subsidize broadband service.

It will be interesting to see which strategy worked out better for countries and their people - corporate run or government run infrastructure - in a few decades.

Etaniel · June 2015

I'm baffled to see that some people in the US (is this right?) still don't have access to unlimited internet... I feel lucky to live in France

P3ZZL3 · June 2015

wrlifeboil wrote: »

Sunver wrote: »

Putting limits on the internet usage should be banned in EU/USA.

Internet access isn't a necessity, say the corporate interests. They hire lobbyists to convince the government that it doesn't have the right to regulate the pricing of Internet service. So the government hasn't done much to regular price or access of Internet service like it did with telephone service 75 years ago in the U.S.

The Asian countries take a different approach. In many countries, their governments believe Internet access is so essential for growth that they subsidize broadband service.

It will be interesting to see which strategy worked out better for countries and their people - corporate run or government run infrastructure - in a few decades.

To be honest, I don't think you need to wait a couple of decades. The results are already coming in....

cazlonb16_ESO · June 2015

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

I never know how much it needs on my end, we don't have a limit here in Germany (I had 2 ISPs, with both it's been like this). But the power company wanted a lot more money per month after a year playing ESO..

Most ISPs in Germany do have a limit these days actually, although not all of them enforce it (yet).

Recent Intel CPUs and graphics cards ( no matter the brand, AMD and Nvidia both cut on the consumption ) really help with the power bill.

wrlifeboil wrote: »

Sunver wrote: »

Putting limits on the internet usage should be banned in EU/USA.

Internet access isn't a necessity, say the corporate interests. They hire lobbyists to convince the government that it doesn't have the right to regulate the pricing of Internet service. So the government hasn't done much to regular price or access of Internet service like it did with telephone service 75 years ago in the U.S.

The Asian countries take a different approach. In many countries, their governments believe Internet access is so essential for growth that they subsidize broadband service.

It will be interesting to see which strategy worked out better for countries and their people - corporate run or government run infrastructure - in a few decades.

To be fair there are other factors to consider. The geography of the United States is very different from, say, South Korea. Wiring tiny South Korea with high speed internet is an entirely different thing than doing the same in the huge US. Outside of the high population density areas satellite based approaches are probably the only viable option.